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Old 10-03-2020, 12:04 AM   #681
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Bam is good but he is still a world away from AD good.
I think that's true as it pertains to scoring and handling the ball. I don't know, I just feel like Bam might be the best defender in the league.

Either way, he's easily the Heat's best player, so it sucks that he's not healthy for this series. Even if he comes back he won't be at full strength.

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Old 10-06-2020, 10:47 PM   #682
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Anyone not watching this series because they thought the series would be too lopsided is missing out. 3-1 is misleading. Both of the past two games have been INTENSE. This one was a total nail biter. Miami is tough as hell. So many shooters, and their defense is completely swarming. Spo is easily a top 3 coach.

AD disappeared offensively again for most of the game, but defensively was a f**king beast. He guarded Butler for most of the night, and contained him all night. Then he hit another dagger 3. KCP of all people was the hero of the night. Had like 16 including two HUGE buckets late in the 4th.

I think the condensed schedule of the bubble is really taking its toll on Lebron. He looked gassed early in the first half. Settled for a ton of contested jumpers, had a bunch of turnovers and was just generally lackluster in the first half. He got it going in the second half, but still looked tired.

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Old 10-09-2020, 09:15 PM   #684
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Anyone not watching Lakers-Heat right now is missing the hell out. This is a fantastic game so far. Butler is elevating his game to a level I didn't think possible. If he's not a top 10 player normally, he's sure playing like a top 5 player right now.

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Anyone not watching Lakers-Heat right now is missing the hell out. This is a fantastic game so far. Butler is elevating his game to a level I didn't possible. If he's not a top 10 player normally, he's sure playing like a top 5 player right now.
Yep. They’re not quitting. I hope Herro, Adebayo and Robinson start playing a bit better.
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I'm not sure what Vogel is thinking starting Dwight in the second half. They're way better with AD at 5.
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Unless AD has like 25 points in the 4th quarter, there is no question who the Finals MVP is, if the Lakers win. Lebron has been incredible so far, even for his standards. This is turning into an all-time great "duel" game between Lebron and Butler.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:00 PM   #688
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Signs of life from Robinson. That’s more like how he’s looked during the rest of the playoffs. Adebayo is noticeably not at 100%, but he’s making few plays.

Need a big 4th from Tyler Herro to get this to game 6, imo.
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Holy shit this game is intense!!!
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One of the best games I’ve ever seen.
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If only the Mavs could have gotten Butler somehow...
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WHAT A F*CKING GAME!!!!!
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If only the Mavs could have gotten Butler somehow...
Great, great player. So underrated. Maybe not as good off the ball though. But yeah, his toughness could’ve helped them, even if he’s not the ideal fit with Luka.
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Lol Morris. Nice pass.
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Wow... just wow.
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Crazy to think that everyone from the 2003 draft is either out of the league, or a role player at best. Lebron is still the best player in the league.
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It is funny how we joke about converting our guys to two-way players, but that really is what you need. In fact, you basically need a team that can do everything.
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Jimmy Buckets played 47:12 of 48:00 - dude plays with so much effort.
35 PTS | 12 REB | 11 AST | 5 STEALS!!!!!!!

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Yeah and that draft is considered arguably one of the best if not the best in recent memory. Lebron is unreal.
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I don’t know what the possibility was of getting Jimmy Butler but he’s exactly what this team needs. If his jumper isn’t falling he attributes to multiple facets of the game. If anyone wants the definition of leaving it all on the court....you’ll see the definition next to a picture of Jimmy Butler barely able to stand.
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I don’t know what the possibility was of getting Jimmy Butler but he’s exactly what this team needs. If his jumper isn’t falling he attributes to multiple facets of the game. If anyone wants the definition of leaving it all on the court....you’ll see the definition next to a picture of Jimmy Butler barely able to stand.
It’s easy to understand why a player like Jimmy might get annoyed and not want hitch his wagon to players like Wiggins, KAT, and Embiid. I think he would get along with Luka, and compliment him well even with the need to share the ball.
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It’s easy to understand why a player like Jimmy might get annoyed and not want hitch his wagon to players like Wiggins, KAT, and Embiid. I think he would get along with Luka, and compliment him well even with the need to share the ball.
I think Butler absolutely would've checked off some of the boxes on Dallas' wishlist:
  • Secondary Playmaker - check
  • Mentally tough, to the point where the team's mental toughness is elevated - check
  • 2-way player, whose defensive skills and mindset would elevate the entire team's effectvness on that end - check

I do wonder whether his abilities are as attractive in a role that's more off-ball, but then again, Miami never intended for him to be on-ball this much. Dragic got hurt, and Herro finally looks like a rookie. So, it probably would've worked fine as long as he had the right attitude about it.

Just goes to show how the "narrative" drives our opinion about certain players.

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Jimmy Butler wants to be ball dominant. Last time he had to share the ball, he forced a trade away.

That's not what we need next to Doncic. I love his passion and his defense, but dude would not like playing with Luka.
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Jimmy Butler wants to be ball dominant. Last time he had to share the ball, he forced a trade away.

That's not what we need next to Doncic. I love his passion and his defense, but dude would not like playing with Luka.
I've never heard anything about Jimmy Butler wanting to be ball dominant. I know in Philly he had to because Ben Simmons wasn't up to task.

And I just don't see the issue here. Having Jimmy Butler would allow you to rest Luka and not be afraid for your offense to go stale while he's sitting on the bench. Jimmy has been fine playing next to Goran Dragic who dominates the ball.
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It’s easy to understand why a player like Jimmy might get annoyed and not want hitch his wagon to players like Wiggins, KAT, and Embiid. I think he would get along with Luka, and compliment him well even with the need to share the ball.
Yeah they just aren't cut from the same cloth. Not many are IMO.
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I think Butler absolutely would've checked off some of the boxes on Dallas' wishlist:
  • Secondary Playmaker - check
  • Mentally tough, to the point where the team's mental toughness is elevated - check
  • 2-way player, whose defensive skills and mindset would elevate the entire team's effectvness on that end - check

I do wonder whether his abilities are as attractive in a role that's more off-ball, but then again, Miami never intended for him to be on-ball this much. Dragic got hurt, and Herro finally looks like a rookie. So, it probably would've worked fine as long as he had the attitude about it.

Just goes to show how the "narrative" drives our opinion about certain players.
EXACTLY. I think it was expected Nunn and Dragic would be handling the ball duties by now.

I personally think the issues with his last few destination were those teams had no identity. T-Wovles just felt pressured to run a offense around Wiggins who was inconsistent and KAT. Same thing happened with Sixers. ITs crazy to think Jimmy played with probably the two best big men in the league and it resulted in nothing...but not because of Jimmy.
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Oof. Unless the Lakers choke worse than anyone else in finals history, this looks anticlimactic after that instant classic game 5.

It's so weird how Miami seems like a completely different team. Butler in particular seems very passive after being so incredible. I wonder if he isn't just exhausted. Maybe he's running on fumes now.

One the flipside, AD is actually being aggressive on offense now. When he's aggressive on offense, the Lakers are practically unbeatable.

And hate him all you want (and I do) but "Playoff" Rondo has earned the hell out of that nickname.
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Talk about falling off a cliff. What a complete and utter disappointment.
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Talk about falling off a cliff. What a complete and utter disappointment.
Yeah it was strange. Granted, the Lakers' defense was incredible, but also I think Miami just rant out of steam. They were nowhere near as aggressive as before, and their 3 pointers were consistently short, probably just out of exhaustion.

I also thought it was a mistake to put Dragic in the game. I know that's a feel good story to see him come back, but he was clearly far less 100%, and was a liability.

Oh well, while this wasn't the best NBA finals, it was FAR from the worst. Only two of the six games were flat-out bad.
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Rumors that Magic want DSJ

They really like rehabbing draft busts
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They really like rehabbing draft busts
I hope it works. It always makes me sad to see guys with real talent wash out of the league.
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I wonder if that is tied to not being able to get a coach yet. Apparently Tillman is way too much of a control freak.
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Morey looking for a better spot...Rockets cap Situation after the Westbrick trade and the Gordon extension is "dead man walking"
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I was just about to post about Morey being out, but I see I'm late to the punch. I gotta say, I'm kind of shocked. Man, it must really suck to be a Rockets fan right now. Their franchise is in total disarray. Seems like a perfect time to lurk Clutchfans for some comedy gold.

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I heard that it was a delayed reaction to the China blowup
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Beane and Morey are stats guys. Both guys out.
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