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Old 05-20-2019, 08:35 PM   #81
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@AlbertNahmad: If Dwight Powell were to opt out, Mavs would have full Bird rights at $14.4M cap hold, which would reduce cap room until he re-signs (at which point it'd be replaced by his first-year salary), signs elsewhere, or is renounced.

@AlbertNahmad: Mavs, if Dwight Powell were to opt out, could retain Kristaps Porzingis and create up to $41M+ cap room (at $109M cap). But room would decrease if they keep Broekhoff ($1.4M) or cap holds of DFS ($1.9M RFA) and Kleber ($1.8M RFA), to $38M+ with all 3, and if they re-sign Powell.
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True, but he joined Luka in Slovenia to work out with him. Don't think you do that unless you're sure to come back.

I'd rather just get Vuc and Beverly and call it a day, but it is what it is.
I have no interest in vuc
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First Playoff Triple Double Partners: Steph Curry w/ 37-12-11 (66% TS) & Draymond Green w/ 18-14-11
The first time two players on the same team have gotten a triple double in a playoff game.

I've calculated Steph's stats subtracting the buzzer beater. With it, it's 64% TS. Anyone know where we can find stats of buzzer beaters taken? Steph apparently missed 50-40-90 in 2017-2018 because he took so many buzzer beaters. I feel this is how we have to look at Curry's stats.

Draymond, McKinnie, and Looney were all ridiculously clutch. Klay didn't shoot well but his defense was top notch.

Also shoutout to the best Leonard in the game, Meyers Leonard w/ 30-12-3 on 89% TS.

Rant: Curry was clearly fouled on the layup at near end of 4th quarter but JVG's explanation is "that's a bang bang play". Lmao. JVG is such a hater it's hilarious.
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First Playoff Triple Double Partners: Steph Curry w/ 37-12-11 (66% TS) & Draymond Green w/ 18-14-11
The first time two players on the same team have gotten a triple double in a playoff game.

I've calculated Steph's stats subtracting the buzzer beater. With it, it's 64% TS. Anyone know where we can find stats of buzzer beaters taken? Steph apparently missed 50-40-90 in 2017-2018 because he took so many buzzer beaters. I feel this is how we have to look at Curry's stats.

Draymond, McKinnie, and Looney were all ridiculously clutch. Klay didn't shoot well but his defense was top notch.

Also shoutout to the best Leonard in the game, Meyers Leonard w/ 30-12-3 on 89% TS.

Rant: Curry was clearly fouled on the layup at near end of 4th quarter but JVG's explanation is "that's a bang bang play". Lmao. JVG is such a hater it's hilarious.
But what does this have to do with mavs next years roster?
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:52 AM   #85
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Dwight Powell to decline $10.2M player option with Mavs
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This is potentially great news, but I'm still inclined to think the Mavs are going to end up making a bonehead decision and resign Powell to a ridiculous contract and totally waste this gift of an opportunity.
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@AlbertNahmad: If Dwight Powell were to opt out, Mavs would have full Bird rights at $14.4M cap hold, which would reduce cap room until he re-signs (at which point it'd be replaced by his first-year salary), signs elsewhere, or is renounced.

@AlbertNahmad: Mavs, if Dwight Powell were to opt out, could retain Kristaps Porzingis and create up to $41M+ cap room (at $109M cap). But room would decrease if they keep Broekhoff ($1.4M) or cap holds of DFS ($1.9M RFA) and Kleber ($1.8M RFA), to $38M+ with all 3, and if they re-sign Powell.
That's a good amount of FA money. I hope they make it count.
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I'll believe the DP opt-out news when I see it from an official Mav source. I just don't believe it. We couldn't give the guy away in a trade at less than $10m, so there's no way he's worth more now just because his numbers improved due to the fact he was a top option playing extended minutes on a trashed roster that had just traded away 4/5 of its starting rotation.

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I'll believe the DP opt-out news when I see it from an official Mav source. I just don't believe it. We couldn't give the guy away in a trade at less than $10m, so there's no way he's worth more now just because his numbers improved due to that fact he was a top option playing extended minutes on a trashed roster that had just traded away 4/5 of its starting rotation.

https://247sports.com/nba/mavericks/...rom-132199998/
I wasn’t able to listen to it, but they were just talking about DP opting out on ESPN. It was the show with Rachel Nichols. The question was “was it smart for DP to opt out?”
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I think it was smart. Looks like the Mavs were willing to extent him anyway. Probably they are trying to find early into FA a stupid team throwing big money at him and if they cant find it they come back to the Mavs to sign for 9-10m again...

Would be just interesting if the Mavs have good options to spend the entire cap. Like Kemba signs straight at 6pm and then another quality roleplayer wanna sign with us...just then Powell would maybe look stupid.

But i expect him back...
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Honestly I like the guy but I don't see the point of bringing him back.

If we recruit Vucevic or Cousins (I wish not for both) we don't have enough cap space to give 12m to a bench player.

If we don't, we should recruit a center that complements better KP, i.e. rebounds and defense i.e. Ed Davis or D. Dedmond.

Either way we should focus our Cap Space on a Wing and a Guard to go alongside Luka.
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Honestly I like the guy but I don't see the point of bringing him back.

If we recruit Vucevic or Cousins (I wish not for both) we don't have enough cap space to give 12m to a bench player.

If we don't, we should recruit a center that complements better KP, i.e. rebounds and defense i.e. Ed Davis or D. Dedmond.

Either way we should focus our Cap Space on a Wing and a Guard to go alongside Luka.
The Mavs traded away 4 average at best starters to upgrade their starting core but only replaced/upgraded one, along with gaining some cap space in the process.
They need to vastly upgrade a 3rd starter with the cap space they gained so I see the majority of that being spent on a 3rd starter and the other 2 starting positions will be taken by two of Brunson/DFS/Jackson/Powell depending on who we sign.

I don't see this team having 5 legit starters next season but they might have an opportunity to put this team in an extremely good position for following years if they can land someone like Brogdon.

We'll have to pay a premium to pull him away from the Bucks but under the circumstances I think we should go for it.

Powell should not be a priority for this team because he is a role player with very limited upside at this point. We should secure that 3rd option player first and then look at filling voids with role players.

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The Mavs traded away 4 average at best starters to upgrade their starting core but only replaced/upgraded one, along with gaining some cap space in the process.
They need to vastly upgrade a 3rd starter with the cap space they gained so I see the majority of that being spent on a 3rd starter and the other 2 starting positions will be taken by two of Brunson/DFS/Jackson/Powell depending on who we sign.

I don't see this team having 5 legit starters next season but they might have an opportunity to put this team in an extremely good position for following years if they can land someone like Brogdon.

We'll have to pay a premium to pull him away from the Bucks but under the circumstances I think we should go for it.

Powell should not be a priority for this team because he is a role player with very limited upside at this point. We should secure that 3rd option player first and then look at filling voids with role players.
I agree. And once you put this big amount of money on a third starter you should use the rest on what’s really missing in the team i.e. rebound and defense i.e. not Dwight Powell. Brogdon + Dedmon + a decent wing at MLE would be a good offseason.
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I agree. And once you put this big amount of money on a third starter you should use the rest on what’s really missing in the team i.e. rebound and defense i.e. not Dwight Powell. Brogdon + Dedmon + a decent wing at MLE would be a good offseason.
That would be a great off season if Donnie could pull it off.

This team is (or should be) in "core building" mode and I'd vastly overpay for Brogdon to be the third piece.
Putting Powell in a larger role doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

My guess is that Kemba is their guy and they will go all out for him.

I've been hearing some noise for a few weeks that Mavs have interest in Tobias Harris.
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Fish was on the radio today and floated the idea that the Mavs might trade off the 2nd rounder in order to get rid of Courtney Lee. Supposedly we can get an actual player for that $12m
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Fish was on the radio today and floated the idea that the Mavs might trade off the 2nd rounder in order to get rid of Courtney Lee. Supposedly we can get an actual player for that $12m
I'm dense. How does that work?
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I'm dense. How does that work?
Find a team under the cap and trade Lee and the 2nd for the rights to a player that has no realistic chance to make it to the NBA

Thus we get rid of the contract
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Find a team under the cap and trade Lee and the 2nd for the rights to a player that has no realistic chance to make it to the NBA

Thus we get rid of the contract
Thanks. I think it's the part where I try to imagine a team that really wants the 39th pick AND Lee's contract. Why would a team do that? What am I missing?
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Thanks. I think it's the part where I try to imagine a team that really wants the 39th pick AND Lee's contract. Why would a team do that? What am I missing?
They wouldn’t. That’s the exclusive exclusive BS that Fish reports.
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Thanks. I think it's the part where I try to imagine a team that really wants the 39th pick AND Lee's contract. Why would a team do that? What am I missing?
If your team needs help making the salary floor then you need one-year NBA contracts to maintain your flexibility going forward. Rather than signing the misc junk yourself, you get a team to give you something in order to build your talent base.

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That part I get.
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And Fish has laid out his plans to get rid of Lee

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I unfollowed Fish a while back and my Mavs (and Cowboys) coverage and experience has increased substantially.

You guys are better suited following guys like Bobby Karalla or Tim Cato. Free yourself from "Fish"

For the Cowboys, there's a whole host of guys I'd rather listen to and have more credibility.
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No way we are dumping Lee's 12m for the 37th pick.
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That would be a great off season if Donnie could pull it off.

This team is (or should be) in "core building" mode and I'd vastly overpay for Brogdon to be the third piece.
Putting Powell in a larger role doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

My guess is that Kemba is their guy and they will go all out for him.

I've been hearing some noise for a few weeks that Mavs have interest in Tobias Harris.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...sue-76ers-star
I have to think kebab is the top target. I like Tobias Harris well enough but at 30m? He isn't great at creating his own shot, is a good but not great defender. Not much of a passer. He's like a lesser Middleton. I understand that versatile wings are a super rare commodity and will understand if they go in that direction as opposed to an undersized defensively challenged and older Kemba. But at least Kemba is an elite scorer, like Kyrie.

In the playoffs it really helps to have as many guys as possible that can get a bucket in the half court when the game slows down. Tobias Harris seemed invisible a lot of the time in Philly to me(maybe a function of being a 3rd/4th option)
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I have to think kebab is the top target. I like Tobias Harris well enough but at 30m? He isn't great at creating his own shot, is a good but not great defender. Not much of a passer. He's like a lesser Middleton. I understand that versatile wings are a super rare commodity and will understand if they go in that direction as opposed to an undersized defensively challenged and older Kemba. But at least Kemba is an elite scorer, like Kyrie.

In the playoffs it really helps to have as many guys as possible that can get a bucket in the half court when the game slows down. Tobias Harris seemed invisible a lot of the time in Philly to me(maybe a function of being a 3rd/4th option)
Yeah I don't see much gain (if any) in our starting core by virtually trading Barnes for Harris.
Certainly they will be going after bigger fish than Harris in FA.

I'd certainly take Harris if we strike out on others but he shouldn't be our primary target.
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I'd be very disappointed if Tobias Harris is what comes of this FA period.
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I'd be very disappointed if Tobias Harris is what comes of this FA period.
But what if thats the best they can get? Optimally we want to sign guys in FA because it allows us to go over the cap to sign KP to a salary larger than his hold right? Then we can start operating as an over the cap team with a larger MLE. And also 2020 is an underwhelming FA crop.
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But what if thats the best they can get? Optimally we want to sign guys in FA because it allows us to go over the cap to sign KP to a salary larger than his hold right? Then we can start operating as an over the cap team with a larger MLE. And also 2020 is an underwhelming FA crop.
If Tobias Harris disappoints you, I think you are going to be very disappointed. We're not getting a Kawhi or Durant. Low chances of even a Kemba.

Third tier is where we're heading. I'd personally be thrilled with Harris and a decent center like Davis, Dedmon, etc.
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How is Harris' defense? I can be persuaded. He's a good player, albeit at a lower tier, but at the price tags I've seen... meh.

Edit: also to his credit, he hasn't had quite the opportunity to grow with one team. I guess you can project that how you want. I still hope he's an above average defender since he'd be going against other top wings.

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How is Harris' defense? I can be persuaded. He's a good player, albeit at a lower tier, but at the price tags I've seen... meh.

Edit: also to his credit, he hasn't had quite the opportunity to grow with one team. I guess you can project that how you want. I still hope he's an above average defender since he'd be going against other top wings.
https://www.clipsnation.com/2018/11/...rs-this-season

Harris has been solid and he's the type of defender who we needed last year. We had no one who could guard big, mobile forwards/centers like Randle and Montrezl Harrell. There are more and more bigs like that who can drive it hard.
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The Sixers ridiculous overpaid for Harris to get his bird rights with the 2021 unprotected Heat pick, they are not letting him go. They will throw the five year max contract at him, specially with some rumours that Butler may walk. They will lock Harris up at 6pm to convince Butler to re-sign too.
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The Sixers ridiculous overpaid for Harris to get his bird rights with the 2021 unprotected Heat pick, they are not letting him go. They will throw the five year max contract at him, specially with some rumours that Butler may walk. They will lock Harris up at 6pm to convince Butler to re-sign too.
Yeah when they had that Heat pick in their back pocket I thought they'd do more with it. I like Tobias Harris' game though. He's one of those guys who's not a star but he's a notch below. Very underrated. He's a solid compliment for a team with Simmons, Butler and Embed on it.
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Why Mavs fans should be happy Dwight Powell opted in
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Meh, somebody had to score after the ASB after 4/5 of the season's starting lineup was traded.
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Sure, because we had the most potent offense in the league with DSJ at 15ppg, Messley at 13ppg and DAJ gets honorable mention with 11ppg. Idk if there is a more negative take on Powell opting in.
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Yes, somebody had to score..but they didn't have to do it efficiently.
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There seems to be a lot more money than players all of a sudden, thinking there’s a good chance somebody lures Maxi away with a bigger payday than we’re comfortable offering.
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There will be more than a few players that slip through the major pay day contracts. It'll be interesting to see where the money is at once the 1, 1a, players are off the market.
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Contract length is going to be a factor too. I think the Mavs have no problem to overpay Maxi if its a three year contract with a team option at the end.

They are going to be very careful with adding salary for 21-22 that is maybe hard to move (except the potential big player signing like Kemba etc)

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