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Old 03-05-2020, 12:03 AM   #161
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Offensive foul on Zion. Bullshit
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:03 AM   #162
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Sheesh, such a BS call. Submarining Zion doesn't get an offensive foul on that? WTF?
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:03 AM   #163
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Attaboy KP!!!!!
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nice job changing it up Luka. Well done. Kudos on the game winning tap out on that rebound!

Edit: Luka got that tap out on the rebound.

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Old 03-05-2020, 12:04 AM   #165
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oh my god that was dirty luka
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:07 AM   #166
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oh my god that was dirty luka
What makes luka special..4 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier had an all nba defender on skates.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:08 AM   #167
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How about these stat lines?
30/16/10 for Luka
32/12/3/5 for KP
21/3/4 for Curry
5/7/4/5 for Kleber
18/1/4 for Hardaway Jr

Sucks that DFS was injured though.
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How about these stat lines?
30/16/10 for Luka
32/12/3/5 for KP
21/3/4 for Curry
5/7/4/5 for Kleber
18/1/4 for Hardaway Jr

Sucks that DFS was injured though.
maxi's impact this game cannot be quantified on a stat sheet. he railed zion
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:08 AM   #169
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Maxi with a rare error in judgment there on D.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:09 AM   #170
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maxi's impact this game cannot be quantified on a stat sheet. he railed zion
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How about these stat lines?
30/16/10 for Luka
32/12/3/5 for KP
21/3/4 for Curry
5/7/4/5 for Kleber
18/1/4 for Hardaway Jr

Sucks that DFS was injured though.
Wow, that 18 by THJ is about the quietest 18 I've seen in forever.
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That was such a fun game to watch! Instant classic.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:11 AM   #173
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maxi's impact this game cannot be quantified on a stat sheet. he railed zion
Agree, and KP came over on help defense a few times to completely finish off Zion around the rim.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:11 AM   #174
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fiiinally they dont lose a stupid game
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Agree, and KP came over on help defense a few times to completely finish off Zion around the rim.
Ten blocks between them. Dallas41 clutching pearls over the Favors/Zion combo.
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Nice win. One of my favorite in a long time just because of the way the Mavs played. 2 bigs for the most part. Solid defense down the stretch. Much better offensive execution at the end. Critical rebounds. Not much whining about officiating, and then handling the pressure and winning in OT. Well done. Also, kudos to RC. I liked his lineups for most of the game. I hope this isn't an outlier moving forward. NEXT!

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Old 03-05-2020, 12:20 AM   #177
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Ten blocks between them. Dallas41 clutching pearls over the Favors/Zion combo.
Yeah, great play by them both. KP didn't look so bad at the 4 with Maxi at the 5, did he? or was it the other way around? Bottom line, with them both in there, it didn't really matter what the number was. ;-)

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Yeah, great play by them both. KP didn't look so bad at the 4 with Maxi at the 5, did he? or was it the other way around? Bottom line, with them both in there, it didn't really matter what the number was. ;-)
Kp was the five on offense, and Maxi took on the toughest match on defense, allowing KP to hunt the penetrators for blocks.
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This league is all about matchups and thats why its smart to change starting-5s too. Tonight it made sense to start Kleber and KP because of Zion/Favors.

Doesnt mean it makes sense the next game.
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WCS played 16 minutes and was...OK. Can people chill now? I hope he still gets playing time, but stop acting like he'll change the world.
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I’m happy. A decent team that the Mavs pulled out in the clutch. Had to dig deep after letting it get to OT. Team building win. And WCS was out there. And Maxi KP on the floor together busting ass defensively. KP looking aggressive and unafraid.

Hopefully a sign of trying to make noise in the first round.
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WCS played 16 minutes and was...OK. Can people chill now? I hope he still gets playing time, but stop acting like he'll change the world.
Well, he did have 2 or 3 blocks, and prevented Dallas from having to play undersized with only 1 big for those 16 minutes, so I wouldn't underestimate his impact. His 16 minutes were very important in insuring the layup line remained closed.


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Well, he did have 2 or 3 blocks, and prevented Dallas from having to play undersized with only 1 big for those 16 minutes, so I wouldn't underestimate his impact. His 16 minutes were very important in insuring the layup line remained closed.


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I liked his play, but would you prefer to have seen Boban on the floor?
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Kp was the five on offense, and Maxi took on the toughest match on defense, allowing KP to hunt the penetrators for blocks.
Bingo, so he CAN play 4 on D and still have an offensive impact. Just wanted to highlight that, since some people have suggested that he has to play 5 to be effective. It's not that simple, nor are positions so rigid in the modern NBA.

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I liked his play, but would you prefer to have seen Boban on the floor?
I would've liked to have seen maybe 3-4 minutes or so of Boban in with either KP or Maxi at least in the first half, if not both halves, but with the way RC managed the minutes, any minutes Boban played would've been subtracted from WCS' playing time, so considering that I don't think RC really looks at Boban as a rotational piece, it's probably best that WCS gets as many minutes as possible to help accelerate his integration with the team.

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WCS played 16 minutes and was...OK. Can people chill now? I hope he still gets playing time, but stop acting like he'll change the world.
Lol

Dude it's about having more size on the floor to protect the paint and not have a layup drill

I prefer having big lineups as opposed to always playing small because that has repeatedly led to losing these types of games.

Those 16 minutes you pointed out is really all most of us who prefer defensive bigs on the floor was asking for all year.

No one said play WCS 30 mpg but hell the dude can play 16-18 mpg every night because he's a quality rotation big

I prefer him at backup center as opposed to seeing MKG being forced to play out of position

The way the mavs used all 3 bigs tonight KP, Kleber and WCS for quality minutes should be that way the rest of the way because this team suffers trying to really solely on one big all game

LA, Denver and OKC is proof that you can still win games in today's NBA by platooning your bigs on a nightly basis to always have rim protection and rebounding on the floor

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This league is all about matchups and thats why its smart to change starting-5s too. Tonight it made sense to start Kleber and KP because of Zion/Favors.

Doesnt mean it makes sense the next game.
I'm not understanding this thought process

Why wouldn't it make sense to play a frontline of KP, Kleber and DFS to start every game?

Each player is in their natural position they all rebound and play defense and they all can stretch the floor.


That's like saying the Lakers or Bucks shouldn't play big to start off every game

That lineup of KP, Kleber, DFS, THJ and Luka is just as good as any other starting lineup we could go with in terms of playing playoff basketball when you need both offense and defense

Every single player in that starting lineup fits a specific need and plays their natural effective positions

I personally hate seeing THJ playing SF or DFS trying to defend PF's that is not their strengths but that's what you get when you go small and it leads to teams destroying us on the glass and layup drills

I have no problems with the mavs rolling out that lineup the rest of the way and go with a bench unit of WCS, Jackson, Wright, Curry and Brunson

That to me is the best roster balance this team could have moving forward
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I'm not understanding this thought process



Why wouldn't it make sense to play a frontline of KP, Kleber and DFS to start every game?



Each player is in their natural position they all rebound and play defense and they all can stretch the floor.





That's like saying the Lakers or Bucks shouldn't play big to start off every game



That lineup of KP, Kleber, DFS, THJ and Luka is just as good as any other starting lineup we could go with in terms of playing playoff basketball when you need both offense and defense



Every single player in that starting lineup fits a specific need and plays their natural effective positions



I personally hate seeing THJ playing SF or DFS trying to defend PF's that is not their strengths but that's what you get when you go small and it leads to teams destroying us on the glass and layup drills



I have no problems with the mavs rolling out that lineup the rest of the way and go with a bench unit of WCS, Jackson, Wright, Curry and Brunson



That to me is the best roster balance this team could have moving forward
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2 bigs in the paint. NO LAYUPS ALLOWED!!!! Love it!!!
Yep that shit was nice

Love seeing the big lineups they give themselves a better chance to win these close games as opposed to small ball giving up layups all game without contesting shots

Hopefully RC realizes much like LA, Milwaukee and OKC you start your bigs together and still have a 3rd big to anchor your backup unit defensively

I think the most underrated aspect of that trio Kleber, KP and WCS is that they all are agile bigs they aren't slugs moving around the court.

That rim protection equals what the Lakers get out of Dwight, McGee and Davis all game
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Laughing at Brad Townsend: "Kleber blocked three of Williamson’s blocks in the second quarter, one in the third (with Dallas leading 63-57), one in the fourth (with Dallas leading 95-93) and also stole the ball from Williamson with 10:39 left in the game."

Kleber blocked Williamson's blocks! lmao
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Former NBA player Vernon Maxwell - "From a distance the Mavs reminds me exactly of the Jazz teams of the 90’s except they aren’t dirty and they are good and they are fun to watch and people like them."

Luka Doncic is just the eighth player in the last 10 seasons to go for at least 30 points, 15 boards, and 10 assists.Luka set the Mavs franchise triple-double record tonight*with his 22nd...30 pts., 17 rebs., 10 asts.

Kristaps Porzingis finished with 34-12-3-5 BLOCKS against the Pelicans:
KP has recorded 30+ PTS and 5+ BLK in back-to-back games played. The last player with 30PTS/5BLK in back-to-back games was Shaquille O’Neal in 2000
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1st OT win of season and only 2nd in last 12.
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Lonzo Ball on Mavericks defense blocking 13 shots: “They’re a big team, especially when they’ve got Porzingis back there. Kleber is strong and can jump; they have Cauley-Stein as well. They crowd the paint pretty well and help on drives a lot.”
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If you type the phrase “layup drill” you are out of actual basketball ideas.
Ehh not really tbh
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:41 AM   #194
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Ehh not really tbh
I just think it’s overused. Obviously you don’t want to give up layups.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:03 AM   #195
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WCS played 16 minutes and was...OK. Can people chill now? I hope he still gets playing time, but stop acting like he'll change the world.
We'll never know if his erratic playing time was because WCS was distracted because of an impending death in the family. Hard to get your head right when you have family issues
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:13 AM   #196
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Man, Luka and KP with huge games. What a fun duo, and may we avoid injuries going forward so we can see them gain more chemistry on the court. If/when KP adds his post up game, or at least taking advantage of smaller defenders on a more frequent basis we will take that next step. Many times last night included we get the cross matchups with ease but then it's a toss up whether or not KP can convert on the advantage.

Rick deserves some credit here with his rotation. DFS went down and he was missed, but I think Rick pulled the right strings. There was even a time when KP, WCS and Maxi were on the floor together for a few possessions. Other teams just aren't going to get offensive rebounds in those scenarios. Hopefully it gives him more cause and confidence to play bigs together more. Maybe not all 3 at once but it worked.

There is a lot of complaining about Wright, but he hit some big buckets in this game and played solid defense.

Good win overall against a gritty defensive team. It should help build some momentum in closing games out.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:36 AM   #197
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Lonzo Ball on Mavericks defense blocking 13 shots: “They’re a big team, especially when they’ve got Porzingis back there. Kleber is strong and can jump; they have Cauley-Stein as well. They crowd the paint pretty well and help on drives a lot.”
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For those who repeatedly think that you don't need to play more than 1 or 2 bigs just because the nba is going small for other teams

This is a legit NBA player basically saying what most of us who have pleaded for the mavs to play their rim protecting bigs all the time regardless of matchups

Ball just made the perfect argument players become aware of bigs with size inside to protect the paint

Those 3 guys combined for 12 block shots....

Think about that for a minute had the mavs played small some of those blocks could have instead been easy layups or dunks early in that game which in theory could have led to new Orleans winning

Nothing came easy in the paint for the pelicans and it seems like every shot was contested. The mavs utilizing two bigs together imo has always been their best defensive option because of our lack of perimeter defenders

One big surrounded by 4 smalls simply hasn't been effective for this team because our small guys aren't good defenders like per say the Clippers or Bucks who can get away with small ball better than the mavs because of that reason.

I was beyond excited that RC not only used all 3 bigs but for the most part he used them all in tandem together WCS played center next to both KP and Kleber doing stages of that game and the mavs still ran plays for KP on offensive despite WCS being on the floor with him.
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Dallas41 I agree: we need to play to our strengths: Keber, KP in particular, WCS as well going forward I hope. Make teams adjust to US. But I wonder: Finney-Smith didn't play most of the game. Would he have gotten minutes that allowed KP-Kleber to work together because he wasn't available. Our best C-PF combination is KP-Kleber. Finney-Smith should play 3 or rotate at 4 when smaller 4s play on second units. He shouldn't play against larger bruiser types. KP, Maxi, Finney-Smith, THJ, Luka should start. And as a unit get a lot of time together to get a rhythm. Replace THJ with Seth if you must. But keep our bigs out there please!

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Old 03-05-2020, 11:02 AM   #199
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I hope this comment doesn't go unnoticed

For those who repeatedly think that you don't need to play more than 1 or 2 bigs just because the nba is going small for other teams

This is a legit NBA player basically saying what most of us who have pleaded for the mavs to play their rim protecting bigs all the time regardless of matchups

Ball just made the perfect argument players become aware of bigs with size inside to protect the paint

Those 3 guys combined for 12 block shots....

Think about that for a minute had the mavs played small some of those blocks could have instead been easy layups or dunks early in that game which in theory could have led to new Orleans winning

Nothing came easy in the paint for the pelicans and it seems like every shot was contested. The mavs utilizing two bigs together imo has always been their best defensive option because of our lack of perimeter defenders

One big surrounded by 4 smalls simply hasn't been effective for this team because our small guys aren't good defenders like per say the Clippers or Bucks who can get away with small ball better than the mavs because of that reason.

I was beyond excited that RC not only used all 3 bigs but for the most part he used them all in tandem together WCS played center next to both KP and Kleber doing stages of that game and the mavs still ran plays for KP on offensive despite WCS being on the floor with him.
Doh! You beat me to it. I was about to post pretty much the very same thing.
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Dallas41 I agree: we need to play to our strengths: Keber, KP in particular, WCS as well going forward I hope. Make teams adjust to US. But I wonder: Finney-Smith didn't play most of the game. Would he have gotten minutes that allowed KP-Kleber to work together because he wasn't available. Our best C-PF combination is KP-Kleber. Finney-Smith should play 3 or rotate at 4 when smaller 4s play on second units. He shouldn't play against larger bruiser types. KP, Maxi, Finney-Smith, THJ, Luka should start. And as a unit get a lot of time together to get a rhythm. Replace THJ with Seth if you must. But keep our bigs out there plaese!
This is just not going to happen much. The only chance of this is when we clearly outmatch other teams potential SLU. I've been on the same page about our rotation for a while and I agree with everything else.

I don't even expect what we saw last night with much consistency, because DFS is a key piece and Rick didn't have that to lean on.
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