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Old 12-06-2020, 08:11 PM   #1
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I know a few fans here were concerned about our shooting after losing Curry, so I wanted to explore that and keep track of it as we go.

overall eFG% off the catch
Brunson 65.5%
THJ 62.1%
Johnson 58.1%
DFS 58.0%
Burke 57.6%
Kleber 56.4%
Barea 56.3%
Porzingis 52.3%

Richardson 48.8%
Iwundu 46.5%

Doncic - 41.1%
Boban - 38.7%
Powell - 38.5%
WCS - 21.1%

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

Overall shooting from three
Burke - 42.7%
THJ - 40.0%

DFS - 37.6%
Barea - 37.6%
Kleber - 37.3%
Johnson - 36.4%
Brunson - 35.8%
Porzingis - 35.2%
Iwundu - 34.1%
Doncic - 31.6%

Powell - 25.6%
Boban - 23.5%
WCS - 0.0%

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

three-point shooting off the catch
Brunson 43.7%
THJ 42.1%
Johnson 42%

DFS 38.8%
Burke 38.6%
Kleber 37.7%
Barea 37.5%
Porzingis 36.3%
Richardson 35%
Iwundu 32.3%

Doncic 28%
Powell - bad
Boban - bad
WCS - very little data

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

Pull-up threes
Burke - 55.6%
Iwundu - 41.2%

Barea - 36.7%
THJ - 35.6%
Doncic - 31.6%
Porzingis - 31.4%

DFS - 28.6%
Johnson - 25.0%
Brunson - 23.9%
Kleber - 16.7%
Powell - 0%
Boban - 0%

WCS - none attempted
Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

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Old 12-07-2020, 12:19 AM   #2
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Cool stuff, thanks! I like the color groupings. Might be cool to have attempts included, too. Brunson’s percentages are WAY higher than I would’ve guessed.
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BBB in Dallas is Barea, Brunson, and Burke 3-point show!
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Don't forget Bey. The killer B's!
It's easy to forget that Bey shot 42% from three last year. He wasn't just a brute force defender and PAC-10 Defensive player of the year.

Also Terry shot 41%

Green shot 36% but Wildcats had a big shift in strategy in January. Once he settled in, Green shot 47% from three in the last two months of the season (Feb/March)

Those are some rookies who can shoot.

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Old 12-07-2020, 03:29 PM   #6
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I read that Ty Terry shot 48% (some websites say 50%) on catch and shoot 3s. He has NBA range. I like our 3 Rookies. Hopefully, Rick can try to develop them a bit this year, and get them some PT. Although the team is blessed with a lot more talent than last year at the wings.
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I read that Ty Terry shot 48% (some websites say 50%) on catch and shoot 3s. He has NBA range. I like our 3 Rookies. Hopefully, Rick can try to develop them a bit this year, and get them some PT. Although the team is blessed with a lot more talent than last year at the wings.
Looks like 41% overall and 48% on catch-and-shoot
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I know a few fans here were concerned about our shooting after losing Curry, so I wanted to explore that and keep track of it as we go.

overall eFG% off the catch
Brunson 65.5%
THJ 62.1%
Johnson 58.1%
DFS 58.0%
Burke 57.6%
Kleber 56.4%
Barea 56.3%
Porzingis 52.3%

Richardson 48.8%
Iwundu 46.5%

Doncic - 41.1%
Boban - 38.7%
Powell - 38.5%
WCS - 21.1%

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

Overall shooting from three
Burke - 42.7%
THJ - 40.0%

DFS - 37.6%
Barea - 37.6%
Kleber - 37.3%
Johnson - 36.4%
Brunson - 35.8%
Porzingis - 35.2%
Iwundu - 34.1%
Doncic - 31.6%

Powell - 25.6%
Boban - 23.5%
WCS - 0.0%

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

three-point shooting off the catch
Brunson 43.7%
THJ 42.1%
Johnson 42%

DFS 38.8%
Burke 38.6%
Kleber 37.7%
Barea 37.5%
Porzingis 36.3%
Richardson 35%
Iwundu 32.3%

Doncic 28%
Powell - bad
Boban - bad
WCS - very little data

Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played

Pull-up threes
Burke - 55.6%
Iwundu - 41.2%

Barea - 36.7%
THJ - 35.6%
Doncic - 31.6%
Porzingis - 31.4%

DFS - 28.6%
Johnson - 25.0%
Brunson - 23.9%
Kleber - 16.7%
Powell - 0%
Boban - 0%

WCS - none attempted
Green - no NBA games played
Terry - no NBA games played
Bey - no NBA games played
DFS is kind of the surprise there to me.
That guy has come a long way.
Hoping theyíll have the same patience with Bey.
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Brunson, Burke, and Bey are the new BBB or The Killer B's!
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In the smallest sample size of all time...

Johnson 100% (1-1)
J-Rich 75% (3-4)
Luka 60% (3-5)
Kleber 60% (3-5)
Brunson 50% (1-2)
Hinton 50% (1-2)
DFS 50% (1-2)

Terry 33% (1-3)
Burke 25% (1-4)
THJ 17% (1-6)
Powell 0% (0-1)
Green 0% (0-1)
WCS 0% (0-1)
Boban 0% (0-1)
Bey 0% (0-1)
Iwundu 0% (0-2)

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Johnson 100% (1-1)
J-Rich 80% (8-10)
Kleber 66.7% (6-9)
WCS 66.7% (2-3)
Brunson 50% (2-4)
Luka 46.2% (6-13)
Green 40% (2-5)

DFS 33.3% (3-9)
Hinton 33.3% (1-3)
Terry 33.3% (1-3)
THJ 30.8% (4-13)

Burke 28.6% (2-7)
Bey 0% (0-1)
Boban 0% (0-1)
Gillespie 0% (0-1)
Iwundu 0% (0-2)
Powell 0% (0-3)


38/88 43.2%
36/73 49.3% for guys in the green and blue (11 players)
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��Josh Richardson's preseason averages ��

15.0 PPG
3.7 RPG
2.0 APG
73.3 3P%
62.5 FG%
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PRESEASON 3PT SHOOTING NUMBERS
Richardson 73.3%
Kleber - 66.7%
DFS - 50.0%
Green - 50.0%
WCS - 50.0%
THJ - 44.4%
Brunson - 42.9%
Johnson - 40.0%

Hinton - 33.3%
Luka - 31.6%
Burke - 30.0%

Terry - 25.0%
Powell - 16.7%
Iwundu - 0.00%
Bey - 0.00%
Boban - 0.00%

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Luka - 31.6%
I really hope he can pull this up a bit this year, but I'm starting to wonder if this is just who he is. His numbers in Europe were about the same.
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I really hope he can pull this up a bit this year, but I'm starting to wonder if this is just who he is. His numbers in Europe were about the same.
He takes the step back 3s and other questionable 3s so it opens up the drive. He's keeping the spacing as much as possible. Sure he would like to have them all fall but what he's doing is very calculated.
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He takes the step back 3s and other questionable 3s so it opens up the drive. He's keeping the spacing as much as possible. Sure he would like to have them all fall but what he's doing is very calculated.
The logic doesn't add up. If you want to keep the defense honest, take regular 3 point shots.
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The logic doesn't add up. If you want to keep the defense honest, take regular 3 point shots.
Yeah he has to take threes to get his defender up on him which gives him the advantage in the drive.

He needs to take those threes.

I just think the next step for him would be to get to 35-40% on them.
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The logic doesn't add up. If you want to keep the defense honest, take regular 3 point shots.
It sure does add up. His step back is effective enough so that defenders have to scramble to get out on him. When he has that level of unpredictability, they lunge forward or get their feet together to contest and he's gone past them. The problem for defenders is that once he gets around, he keeps them on his hip and worst case scenario is a floater in the lane. I'm perfectly fine with him taking step backs in the natural flow of the game.

The only time I do not want him taking them is most late game situations, and especially from laziness. Now if it's tied and you have last shot in a situation like vs LA in game 4(?) then that's more acceptable.
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Yeah he has to take threes to get his defender up on him which gives him the advantage in the drive.

He needs to take those threes.

I just think the next step for him would be to get to 35-40% on them.
About that....
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It sure does add up. His step back is effective enough so that defenders have to scramble to get out on him. When he has that level of unpredictability, they lunge forward or get their feet together to contest and he's gone past them. The problem for defenders is that once he gets around, he keeps them on his hip and worst case scenario is a floater in the lane. I'm perfectly fine with him taking step backs in the natural flow of the game.

The only time I do not want him taking them is most late game situations, and especially from laziness. Now if it's tied and you have last shot in a situation like vs LA in game 4(?) then that's more acceptable.
We were actually down by 1 at that point and a missed shot loses the game but I get your point.
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3pt shooting after one game
Burke - 100%
THJ - 38%
Richardson - 29%
Kleber - 29%
DFS - 17%
Brunson - 0%
Doncic - 0%

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We were actually down by 1 at that point and a missed shot loses the game but I get your point.
It was a three pointer, so you didn't get their point. lolz
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The Mavericks need to hit a few more threes
Last season Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, Dorian Finney-Smith and Luka Doncic shot 40, 37, 38 and 32 percent from three respectively. This season those same players are shooting 31, 33, 25 and 18(!!) percent respectively. That simply won’t get it done and when factoring in lack of rebounding results in blowouts like Christmas day’s game against the Lakers. I can’t honestly say it will get better because those players all shot at career-best marks last season.
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3pt shooting after nine games
Burke - 48.4%
Kleber - 47.1%
THJ - 43.8%

DFS - 32.6%
Richardson - 32.0%
Brunson - 31.8%
Johnson - 31.3%

Iwundu - 25.0%
Doncic - 22.8%
Powell - 20.0%
Boban - 0.0%
WCS - 0.0%


Doncic is the only real surprise there. Guy should be at least 30-35% to be effective, but has climbed after falling below 10% early in the season. Johnson and Richardson should improve as they get more comfortable. Burke, Kleber, and THJ are absolutely smoking hot. I don't expect a full season of that, but maybe. Both THJ and Burke shot 40%+ last year.

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3pt shooting after 15 games

Kleber - 47.1% (3.8 attempts per game)
Burke - 42.4% (4.7 attempts per game)
THJ - 40.2% (8.4 attempts per game)
Brunson - 39.4% (3.0 attempts per game)

KP - 33.3% (6.0 attempts per game)
DFS - 32.6% (5.4 attempts per game)
J-Rich - 32.0% (6.3 attempts per game)

Doncic - 28.4% (7.3 attempts per game) - 9.5% December, 33.3% January
Johnson - 26.8% (2.7 attempts per game)
Powell - 20% (0.6 attempts per game)
Iwundu- 16.7% (1.6 attempts per game)
Boban - 0.0% (0.3 attempts per game
WCS - 0.0% (0.1 attempts per game)
Hinton - 0.0% (0.3 attempts per game)
Terry - 0.0% (0.8 attempts per game)
Green - 0.0% (0.6 attempts per game)

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Doncic is at 27.8% now.
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Doncic is at 27.8% now.
Let's just count his January percentage only it looks better lol

Throw away that horrible December.
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Let's just count his January percentage only it looks better lol

Throw away that horrible December.
My point was it went down from the percentage from 15 games. He went down after it going up.
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My point was it went down from the percentage from 15 games. He went down after it going up.
and after last night it's back to 28.4
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Anybody care that Desmond Bane is leading the NBA in 3pt%? Is 52% any good? Sucks that his arms are too short to get his shot off. Lols
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What leaped out at me is the Doncic needs to get a lot more efficient.
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Anybody care that Desmond Bane is leading the NBA in 3pt%? Is 52% any good? Sucks that his arms are too short to get his shot off. Lols
I was highly disappointed they didnt get Bane. Just ridiculous he "fits" RC's system and they went right over him. Not the least surprised he's at 52%. Good for him and Memphis.
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Mavs are dead last in 3 point percentage after 20 games.
So why are they still shooting them as often?

Why not alter your offense a little and incorporate more mid range shots meaning pass up the 3 a little more often?

I noticed Pop's made this adjustment with the Spurs once they got DeRozan and Aldridge there was a breakdown as to how the Spurs had gone against the trend of the current NBA 3's and relied more on the mid range range.

Dallas some really good mid range shooters in Luka, KP, Brunson, THJ and Josh Richardson but all those guys are high volume 3 point shooters.

Why not cut those shots in half until the data reflects improvement as a team instead of keep hoisting them and getting the same results?

I also think they spend way too much encouraging non 3-point shooters to launch those shots more.
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So why are they still shooting them as often?

Why not alter your offense a little and incorporate more mid range shots meaning pass up the 3 a little more often?

I noticed Pop's made this adjustment with the Spurs once they got DeRozan and Aldridge there was a breakdown as to how the Spurs had gone against the trend of the current NBA 3's and relied more on the mid range range.

Dallas some really good mid range shooters in Luka, KP, Brunson, THJ and Josh Richardson but all those guys are high volume 3 point shooters.

Why not cut those shots in half until the data reflects improvement as a team instead of keep hoisting them and getting the same results?

I also think they spend way too much encouraging non 3-point shooters to launch those shots more.
Lack of imagination and lack of willingness to veer off the conventional wisdom path.
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So why are they still shooting them as often?

Why not alter your offense a little and incorporate more mid range shots meaning pass up the 3 a little more often?

I noticed Pop's made this adjustment with the Spurs once they got DeRozan and Aldridge there was a breakdown as to how the Spurs had gone against the trend of the current NBA 3's and relied more on the mid range range.

Dallas some really good mid range shooters in Luka, KP, Brunson, THJ and Josh Richardson but all those guys are high volume 3 point shooters.

Why not cut those shots in half until the data reflects improvement as a team instead of keep hoisting them and getting the same results?

I also think they spend way too much encouraging non 3-point shooters to launch those shots more.
Itís really just Luka, KP, and Richardson dragging them down. All those guys have proven they are capable of doing much better. They are getting open shots, but missing shots they normally make. Richardson is a career 36% shooter but hitting only 28%. Kp shot 35% last year is shooting 28%.
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Luka has shot the 3 better since starting 9%.

KP takes too many stupid ass long 3's and has front rimmed the vast majority of them. There is a treat for anyone who wants to look at his shot chart this season.
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Luka has shot the 3 better since starting 9%.

KP takes too many stupid ass long 3's and has front rimmed the vast majority of them. There is a treat for anyone who wants to look at his shot chart this season.
Now look at last season.
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Now look at last season.
My point is KP doesn't need to shoot from that far out. Can he hit some of those? Sure. But he's 7'3 he can shoot over anyone. Many of those super long 3s haven't been necessary imo.
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