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Old 06-18-2018, 09:25 PM   #2361
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I think at the very we least weíd have to give up our 1st next season moderately protected. Say, top-5. They have the leverage. If youíre calling to move up, it means youíre in love
Exactly. It's why you never release who you want. They can just draft him and ask for whatever they want.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:32 PM   #2362
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Take Faried + 14th pick on. Trade 14th + 5 to get to 2. Trade Barnes + next years 1st (top 5 protected) for #4.

I keep saying it over and over trying to make it real. Ha!
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Fish says he hears our love of Doncic is “too strong”

Mavs planting rumors to try to undo the damage or legit?
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:47 PM   #2364
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I'm gonna believe that he Mavs aren't foolish enough to let it out the bag who they plan on drafting. Its not like they have a top 2 pick.....They are basically getting the elite prospect that everyone else doesn't take that's ahead of them.....so i'm hoping they are trying to sway who that guy is. How did Doncic go from being a top 3 pick to falling to us all of a sudden?
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Take Faried + 14th pick on. Trade 14th + 5 to get to 2. Trade Barnes + next years 1st (top 5 protected) for #4.



I keep saying it over and over trying to make it real. Ha!


I donít believe the Mavs would be able to take on Faried AND Parsons. Taking on Parsons contract is the only way Memphis would ever consider giving up 4. Mavs could get enough cap space for 1 but not both.

I donít believe the should trade up. This could just be another smoke screen to get another team to take Doncic before the 5th pick. That increases the chances of pushing the guy they really want (whoever it may be) down to them. Just like last year when all we heard about was Ntilikina. That tactic helped land them Dennis.
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:13 PM   #2366
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Take Faried + 14th pick on. Trade 14th + 5 to get to 2. Trade Barnes + next years 1st (top 5 protected) for #4.

I keep saying it over and over trying to make it real. Ha!
I was thinking we should take on Faried (and Arthur if it reduces what we need to give up) to get #14, then package that pick along with a lightly protected 2019 first rounder to try to move up to 9 or 10 to hopefully take Mikal Bridges. I don't think we can get a 2nd top-5 pick... we don't have enough to offer the Grizzlies.
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Yea I don't think the Doncic love is true. It's the same crap we pulled with Frank Ntilikina last year. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow or day after there will be a report stating that "Mavs narrowed down their pick between Doncic and MPJ". It'll put the pressure on the Kings and Grizzlies to take those guys causing someone like Bagley to fall.

Honestly, I have no idea which big man the Mavs are zeroing in on. My guess is Bagley. We lack offense and rebounding. A 19 year old kid who averages 20 and 11 with Amar'e Stoudemire upside might help with that.
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Doncic is a prime target in this draft and one of the safest picks, but if Mavs indeed are all in it would seem they

a) concluded that all of the bigs come with too many risks
b) are confident they get a big in FA
c) do not look for needs / position / fit at this point and want the best player

That said, I'd much rather have a second pick in the lottery and #5 than trading up for Doncic. I'd really like to get Mikal if possible.
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Yea I don't think the Doncic love is true. It's the same crap we pulled with Frank Ntilikina last year. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow or day after there will be a report stating that "Mavs narrowed down their pick between Doncic and MPJ". It'll put the pressure on the Kings and Grizzlies to take those guys causing someone like Bagley to fall.

Honestly, I have no idea which big man the Mavs are zeroing in on. My guess is Bagley. We lack offense and rebounding. A 19 year old kid who averages 20 and 11 with Amar'e Stoudemire upside might help with that.

Thatís exactly what I think is going on. I mean I really like Doncic but the Mavs are really needing a big. I still believe the guy they really want is Bamba. Enticing teams to pick Doncic and MPJ only helps them.
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It’s that double-reverse psychology time of the year...


Mavs like Luka... With the #1 pick in the draft, Phoenix takes Luka Doncic!

Mavs like Porter... With the #2 pick in the draft, Sacramento takes Michael Porter Jr.!

Mavs like Bamba... With the #3 pick in the draft, Atlanta takes Mo Bamba!

Mavs like Bagley... With the #4 pick in the draft, Memphis takes Marvin Bagley III!

Lol, y’all’s dummies... With the #5 pick in the draft, Dallas takes DeAndre Ayton!
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There are 3 areas of dire need on this team and one of them should easily be addressed with the 5th pick. No reason for Donnie and Cuban to get too aggressive.

I'm all for adding picks by taking on salary but don't think we should be moving that pick unless it is for Brown or someone of his caliber and age range.
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Rick loves Doncic. Pretty sure Rick wants him more than Bagley or Porter or a project Like JJJ
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The look on UD's face when we draft WCJ...

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Draftexpress had an interesting fact:

In 2017-2018 there were 456 players on NBA rosters.

42% (192) were either drafted in the second round or went undrafted.

Hope we find some gems with 33 and 54 and if we can’t get another first rounder maybe we can buy some second rounders
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In 2017-2018 there were 456 players on NBA rosters.

42% (192) were either drafted in the second round or went undrafted.

Hope we find some gems with 33 and 54 and if we can’t get another first rounder maybe we can buy some second rounders
We have our full "cash considerations" in hand this time, right? We possibly missed out on Jordan Bell last year because used cash to get rid of Jeremy Evans deal, if I'm remembering right. Oh, that onerous Evans deal. So nice to be out from under that one...

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Draftexpress had an interesting fact:

In 2017-2018 there were 456 players on NBA rosters.

42% (192) were either drafted in the second round or went undrafted.

Hope we find some gems with 33 and 54 and if we canít get another first rounder maybe we can buy some second rounders
Hopefully Cuban isn't looking for his next Satnum Singh.
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It doesn't matter what Shenanigans the Mavs try to pull, Doncic is going 2nd. I can see how posturing is worth a shot, but You can't afford to miss on him at 2, unless it's for Bagely. Even still that doesn't mean he gets to us. Worst case scenario we end up with MPJ, then 2nd worst is J3.
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I think a trade with Denver is way more possible than anything with Memphis. It wouldn't take much from our side, but I still don't think Denver would do a trade, even to get rid of Faried.
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It doesn't matter what Shenanigans the Mavs try to pull, Doncic is going 2nd. I can see how posturing is worth a shot, but You can't afford to miss on him at 2, unless it's for Bagely. Even still that doesn't mean he gets to us. Worst case scenario we end up with MPJ, then 2nd worst is J3.
I've heard Bagley is a lock at 2. We don't know who will be picked after Ayton. That is the only absolution we know at this point.
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I think Dirk was in the Mavs draft room last year - please correct me if I am wrong.
I wonder if Barnes/DSJ might be in the room this year.
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I wonder if Barnes/DSJ might be in the room this year.
Not if Barnes is traded.
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I think Dirk was in the Mavs draft room last year - please correct me if I am wrong.
I wonder if Barnes/DSJ might be in the room this year.
I doubt it. I think Dirk was there because he's the GOAT, but doubt he offers any insight to who they draft. Might get a chance to talk with the draftee and welcome them to the team.
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I doubt it. I think Dirk was there because he's the GOAT, but doubt he offers any insight to who they draft. Might get a chance to talk with the draftee and welcome them to the team.
He's the GOAT and obviously a good luck charm. On top of that he is gaining experience for his future role within the organization.
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If Doncic is gone by 5 youíre looking at the newest Dallas Maverick.

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Yep. It's looking like Doncic or Bamba at 5 with Porter as an outside chance. Those draftexpress guys know their stuff too. According to them, it's looking like...


Ayton
Bagley
JJJ

Which means Memphis picks either Doncic or Porter. Don't see Memphis passing up on Doncic.
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I would be delighted.
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Yep. It's looking like Doncic or Bamba at 5 with Porter as an outside chance. Those draftexpress guys know their stuff too. According to them, it's looking like...





Ayton

Bagley

JJJ



Which means Memphis picks either Doncic or Porter. Don't see Memphis passing up on Doncic.


I would really love to get that 4 pick and end up with both Bamba and Doncic.
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That's a great dream come true, but we should be happy with just Bamba.
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That's a great dream come true, but we should be happy with just Bamba.

Iím actually going to be happy with any of the top 5 guys. I really think whoever they take at 5 is going to fit well with this team. My least favorite though is MPJ. His injury history makes him too big of a risk in my opinion.
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Both true... but all of this is setting me up for the J3 letdown.
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Both true... but all of this is setting me up for the J3 letdown.


IMO J3 (great nickname btw) would not be a letdown. His game really reminds me a lot of Anthony Davis (check out some YT vids, he really has a well rounded game with underrated offensive skill). I wouldn't be surprised if he's the best player from this draft 4 years down the road.
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IMO J3 (great nickname btw) would not be a letdown. His game really reminds me a lot of Anthony Davis (check out some YT vids, he really has a well rounded game with underrated offensive skill). I wouldn't be surprised if he's the best player from this draft 4 years down the road.
This may be true. It just doesnt have the same feel as having another Euro star Doncic or the super long and intelligent Bamba.
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IMO J3 (great nickname btw) would not be a letdown. His game really reminds me a lot of Anthony Davis (check out some YT vids, he really has a well rounded game with underrated offensive skill). I wouldn't be surprised if he's the best player from this draft 4 years down the road.
He might be. Dude got benched During the NCAA tournament. He's definitely going to take time to develop, but the good thing is he is super young.
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Not in the NBA and already his first career block.
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Is that because he thinks heís going top 3? Just curious why he wants no part of Memphis.
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Is that because he thinks he’s going top 3? Just curious why he wants no part of Memphis.
Doesn't make any sense with Gasol there -- neither of them can play the 4.
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Sit on the bench behind Gasol?
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If he wants no part of Memphis it's because he thinks he's going to the Mavericks at 5.
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I feel like Dallas would take Carter Jr over Bamba.
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