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Default 06-17-2001, 09:34 PM

The way that story went everyone they interviewed (including Jordan) seems to think that he'll come back.


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Default 06-20-2001, 06:06 PM

I really don't want Jordan to return. I can't see him adding to his legacy and the possibility of embarrassment is there.
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Default 06-20-2001, 06:17 PM

The possibility of embarrassment is greatly there. I don't want him to come back either...I can't think of a better way for him to have left. The only thing that I regret about his career is the 2 years he took off during the dynasty. I understand he was upset about his father, but he tried to play baseball for goodness sake! If he had played those 2 years he could have retired an 8 straight champion...and I don't think that Phil would be in LA either.


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Default 06-20-2001, 06:32 PM

I heard several ugly rumours that Jordan was asked to leave basketball for a couple of years by David Stern. Jordan was gambling a lot back then and there was some allegations in a criminal case against some big-time bookies that Jordan was fixing games. The extremely ugly rumour alleged that Stern asked Jordan to leave so he wouldn't have to suspend the league's best player.
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Default 06-20-2001, 10:14 PM

What are you talking about...fixing the games. They won most of the games they played.


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Default 06-20-2001, 10:38 PM

Like I said - ugly rumor. I never believed it, so I never investigated it. However, there were a lot of people who do believe and the timing WAS coincidential - Jordan retires right after being a part of a FBI investigation. The center of the investigation was not Jordan, but a career criminal who had won several hundred thousand dollars from Jordan at golf. Jordan admitted that he had lost a lot of money betting on golf. There were a lot of questions starting to be asked of Jordan by reporters. Those questions went away when Jordan retired from basketball. The story hangs together if you believe the basic premise - Jordan had a gambling addiction. I didn't believe it, so I never looked further.
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Default 06-20-2001, 10:42 PM

Oh...so you're just putting it up for discussion. Now I understand. I thought you were supporting the idea.


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Default 06-21-2001, 08:19 AM

jordan fixing games?
what the hell, did we expect the bulls to go 82-0? so 69-13 wasn't good enough?
the way i look at is he fixed several games..and they were all in the "W" column
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Default 06-23-2001, 11:42 PM

What do you think about him playing small forward if he does make the return this season?

How will he stack up against Dirk?


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Default 06-24-2001, 12:30 AM

I can't imagine Jordan doing anything other than being lit up. How is he supposed to stop a guy 5 inches taller who can shoot threes and run the court? Of course, I think Jordan is going to get lit up by a bunch of players. I wish he would stay retired 'cause I hate it when the champ goes into the ring one too many times. It's kinda sad.
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Default 06-24-2001, 12:36 AM

He finished at the best place possible...the top.


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Default 06-24-2001, 01:06 AM

i'm not going to count jordan out until he gives me any reason to count him out.
when someone proves that he's lost it, fine, that's ok...but, so far, all i've heard is the ramblings of ignorant sports writers and cynics
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Default 06-24-2001, 01:02 PM

If he comes back and proves that he's lost it then that's it...we all know. But right now he has us all wondering if he could still be the best...that's the way it should be.


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Default 06-24-2001, 10:33 PM

IMO, if he does make the return, he's foolish. Like Flying Tiger said, he went out in the best possible way...on top.

I, no doubt, believe he can still play but not at the level some of the guys today are.

There's defintely players that'll outplay him and make him look foolish but I wouldn't count him out either. He seems to thrive on proving people wrong.

I just wish he would make up his mind already, Im tired of wondering.


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Default 06-25-2001, 08:42 AM

heaven forbid he drops down to michael finley's level instead of being one of the top 5 players in the league

he wants to play, it's his decision..and there's no reason to doubt him right now.
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Default 06-26-2001, 10:33 AM

how do we know he went out the best way possible?
so, there's nothing else he can accomplish as a basketball player, for himself, for his fans?

most people i know..the only reason they watched the NBA was because of Mike. I know alot of people that don't watch it anymore simply because he's gone.

what's the purpose of being so cynical towards the greatest basketball player that ever lived?
hasn't he given us enough to where we should give him the opportunity to play if he wants to. especially when we have nothing to base our negativity towards.

..let's see him play, and then judge..
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Default 06-26-2001, 10:45 AM

My only issue with it is if he does come back and let's say he only averages 25 points a game and doesn't win a championship, there are those people who will let that tarnish their opinion of Jordan.

I for one, would LOVE to see him come back just to see if he can do it again, but it would be FOOLISH for me or anyone for that matter to say that this man is STILL not one of or the GREATEST basketball player to ever play the game.

I can understand people's frustration with the uncertainty of Jordan coming back, but that's Jordan. That's always been Jordan, he likes to be in control and now people don't like it because they're at his mercy. Believe it or not the MAJORITY of people are curious to see how he would fair, but they don't like the fact that everyone is waiting on the edge of their seat to find out what he's going to do. Well whatever the man does, it's fine with me, he deserves it. There are three people in my mind who can do what they chose as far as the NBA goes. Jordan, Magic and Bird. They are a major reason the NBA still exist, so if they want to toy with us, let them! We should be thanking them for all they did, so if they want to come back and wheel themselves down the court in a wheel chair we should sit back and accept it. There would STILL be people that would tune in to watch it.


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Default 06-26-2001, 10:52 AM

damn, i'm hyped about jordan coming back.
now, i'm interested in the mavs, the cavs, and whe wizard.
...and, i'll hate every other team
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