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Old 05-06-2003, 06:16 PM   #28
Epitome22
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<< [i]Epitome,you gotta check your stats,first of,He isnt second,he's third,Theo Ratliff is first.

they're scoring arent comparable,its more than FG percantile,if it was,Eddie curry was an unchalenged first team NBA.

(E) It's more than FG percentage. Eddy Curry isn't taking 20 shots a game nor does he constantly have the ball in his hands, nor does he get double and triple teamed at the rate Duncan does nor is it a futile mystery with the bulls in general over who's gonna get the ball and take the shot when they have possession. Thru all that he managed to complete FGs at an above 50% mark. That's impressive. That's what great post players do.



Dirk is much more explosive and much more versatile on offense.

(E) How? because he averaged what, all of 1.8 points per game less than Dirk during the season? Tim Duncan manages his offensive numbers in a calmer, steady, more paced fashion than Nowitzki does but in the end he's a comparable offensive threat. As for being more versatile, Dirk is more &quot;versatile&quot; than Shaq. Doesen't mean Shaq isn't a comparable or more poptent for that matter oiffensive threat.


how in hells name did you get Duncan is a better Passer?cause he got 1 or even half an assists per game more than Dirk?maybe its because the ball is in his hends most of the time,while Dirk has to make do with a team with 3 all starts and Nick.

(E) criticizing someone's passing ability or statistics regarding passing because they have the ball in their hands alot is poor. By that logic, we'd better dp something about this huge overrating of John Stockton. How could he not dish out all those assists? he had the ball in his hands practically all the time! FYI Duncan has always been a solid passer and just as Shaq has become a better passer as he spends more time in the league so has Duncan. His passing during the first round against Phoenix was some of the best Ive ever seen from a big man since KG.

the funny thing is he isnt even a better defender than dirk,He just focus his efforts on rebounding rather than offense.

(E)???? Could you please put that in more understandable terms? focuses his efforts on rebounding rather than offense? SWo what you're saying is that when the other team has possession and are in the Spurs side of the court, if he focused his mental abilities on the basket all the way down the court instead of tediously swatting shots and pulling down defensive rebounds he'd be shown up for the fraud he is or something? this statement doesen't make any sense. Doesen't focus on offense? 6 times all NBA first teamer, 2 time MVP, 22.9 career points per game, 3.2 offensive rebounds a game, doesen't focus on offense. Right.


at the begining of the season dirk had his 12 boards a game,and he didnt even tried to hard,but on the second half of the season he had to focus on making some shots,so he had difficulties doing both.

(E) With respect to Dirk, he's a good rebounder, I don't remember him ever being at more than 10.4 rebounds a game during the season whereas Duncan has been averaging 12-13 rebounds a game all season long just like he does every season he plays in. Secondly, as for concentrating on making shots, are you honestly trying to say, with the core of support that Dirk has, that there's some added pressure on Dirk that ISN'T on the leader of a two man show like Duncan? If anything Duncan has to focus more on getting points for his team than Dirk does and even though pulling down rebounds(90% of which are defensive) is hardly some antithesis to focusing on scoring points, Since Duncan manages to do both that would in actuality makes the case for Duncan being the better player at this juncture stronger.


like game 7,first half he got them boards,second he got them points,they're abbileties at the boards arent that much different,its just that some make more efforts getting them.

(E) As was said. Tim Duncan, as his teams indesputable first option, with double teams galore has no less pressure putting points on the board than Nowitzki does. This argument that focusing on getting rebounds and focusing on socring points is at some paradox is also laughable. Dirk just like every other player gets most of his boards on the defensive end. What is it exactly about this mysterious focus on points that makes him rebound so much more poorly when the other team has possesion and shoots?

Dirk is an excellent player. One day he'll be as good as Duncan and he might someday be better. But right now, he isn't.



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