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Old 03-02-2004, 03:30 PM   #9
Usually Lurkin
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Default RE:separation of Church/State (unless you don't like Church policy)

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Originally posted by: Psychedelic Fuzz
I don't think the metaphor is off base.
Then answer the question: Should the Hindu employer be forced to buy you a hamburger?
A better parallel would be: You decide to take up (non-work related) motorcycle drag racing. Should your employer have the option of not buying you a helmet?
Or (from the church's perspective) you decide to go on a murderous shooting spree, killing countless innocent babies. Should your employer have the option of not providing you with protective clothing, so that you can safely avoid any consequences?

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What you are saying is that this organization shouldn't be under the same guidelines as other non-religious businesses.
No. I'm saying that when you allow government to run things, you can't allow religion to run them. If the government is making decisions for a business, then a church cannot be. And yes, this is a not-for-profit business, organized around the Catholic Church, according to Catholic Doctrine, in order to perform Catholic ministry. This government imposition is an impediment to the ministry of the Catholic Church.

All businesses (religious or non) should be under the same government constraints (which is a minimum). Forced allocation of funds for the provision of contraceptives is ludicrous for any business. It is especially ludicrous to force a religious business into such an allocation when the purpose of such allocation is in direct opposition to the precepts upon which the business is founded. This highlights the hypocritic nature of an approach to government that simultaneously forces government into everything, and forces religion out of government. The net result is a forcing of religion out of everything.



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It's the church's place to set forth guidelines and to do charitable work, not to make that decision. That's the government's job, and that is what separation of church and state is about.
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If the law said other businesses don't have to provide the same coverage, I'd be on the other side of this.
A better approach would be to take decisions out of the government's hands, and place them into the hands of individuals. The notion that something is right just because it is in the form of a law is scary.

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