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Old 03-17-2004, 08:42 PM   #31
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Default RE: If you cannot defeat the US then strike at its supporters

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America is safer [with Sadam gone] because:
- A dictator who was pursuing WMDs has been removed from office.
wrong, the pursuit of WMD had been twarted years earlier as post invasion documents show.

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- A dictator whose presence forces us to patrol no-fly-zones, starve the iraqi people with sanctions and who had attacked it's neighbors twice and consistently threatened the worlds oil supply has been removed from office.
wrong, those make his pop and its neighbors safer, but not America.

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- A dictator who supported terrorism with cash money as well as harboring known terrorists has been removed from office.
wrong, that makes Israel safer w/o his paying suicide bombers, but it hasn't made America safer.

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- Another dictator seeing what happened to saddam has decided to give up his WMD programs.
wrong, Libya has been in negotiations for years to give up its WMD, this is not a consequence of Iraqs defeat.

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- Pakistan/India have begun a dialogue to settiling their differences.
wrong, this has NOTHING to do with the Iraqi invasion. It is however a good thing

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- Iran has allowed nuclear inspectors into their country.
wrong, they are allowing UN inspectors due to pressure from their European friends. See what a mutilateral approach will do?

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- N.Korea is now being engaged by china and not just the US.
Wrong, this is as ludicrous as the Pakistan/India assertion. If anything the Iraqi invasion made N. Korea more paranoid and less negotiable.

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- The terrorists have not hit the us since 9/11.
wrong as the terrorists have attacked others. They sure don't see the invasion as protecting them..

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- Bush has brought light on and crippled much of the terrorist money machine.
wrong as it is not a consequence/result of the Iraqi invasion but rather a coordinated worldwide approach. See mutilateral actions are successful.

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- Many of the alqueda leaders have been apprehended.
wrong, as they were NOT apprehended in Iraq and not a product of the Iraqi invasion.

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- Afghanistan another terrorist haven is now being transformed into a sovereign country[
wrong, a seperate issue. America IS safer with the Taliban out, but that has nothig to do with the Iraqi invasion.

you have posted some accomplishments of the Bush administration, unfortunately none of them prove your point and show how the US is safer due to the Iraqi invasion.

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If the atlantic alliance cannot come to deal with this (like the UN) then it's not worth the paper it's written on. Yes our governement distorted our intelligence to agree with all other intelligence on the planet. Those sly devils. Get real man
The Alliance wanted to deal with Hussein differently than the Bush administration proposed/did. They didn't "agree with all other intelligence on the planet" as some had their own intelligence different from what we heard from our current administration and in fact challenged the Bush administration to prove its claims (remember the Collin Powell speech at the UN?).

I believe that a scheme to "distort" the intelligence to support a policy is very poor conduct (dishonesty or malfeasense?) by Bush and his staff. Clearly you don't care if you are lied to. I do. and I expect better from my government.
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