[madape]

You generally are considered the "loser" when you give up the best player in a trade. I don't know what you'd call someone who gives up the two best players in a trade. My guess would be "moron". That's the best word I can use for Cuban if he agreed to either of these trades.

You just don't give up two all-stars for a load of crap like Kieth Van Horn or Tim Thomas. Niether of those guys is as good as Walker. Neither is as good as Stackhouse.

It's one thing to try to trim your roster, but the idea is to trade three or four guys and get back at least one guy that makes your team better. In these trades, all we get back is a big pile of crap.