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so in your eyes they have the "right to choose not to help us" but the don't have the right "to oppose us"? odd to say the least.

Well Mr. Reading Comprehension Challenged if you would have continued reading you would have said that I agreed that Germany had the right to oppose us. However I and Amercia as a nation has a right to be upset with Germany for opposing us. Odd that you would imply that I or America has less rights than a German or Germany as a whole. Guess you think everyone should have more rights than your countrymen.

Do you want to rewrite this?
The justification for the invasion put forth by the Bush Administration has been proven to be without credibility. No more do we hear of threats to the US and WMD, but rather the humanitarian aspects of removing a totalitarian dictator.

This was the position of the German Government, that there was no material reason for an invasion, that the isolation of Iraq was effective in minimizing the threat Iraq could have been to other countries. Yes, their position is clearly the one that has been validated.

1st of all, German intelligence like our own confirmed that Iraq had WMD's. No we haven't found WMD's. That could be for any of a number of resons. A) there were no WMD's B) the WMD's are hidden C) the WMD's were moved out of Iraq D) the WMD's were destroyed shortly before or during the invasion or E) some combination of B, C, and D.

However just for your obstinate and myopic self, let's assume it was A. That still doesn't mean that Iraq wasn't working towards the creation of WMD's. Infact it can be credibly argued that they were working towards creating the environment where they could create WMD's in secret. If there truely weren't WMD's and all the major world powers intelligence services were fooled on this, they how would we ever have know if and when they created WMD's? The answer is that there is a high probability that we wouldn't.

There is no evidence that isolation of Iraq would have been sufficient. In fact there is evidence that Iraq was corporating and aiding Al Queda. Evidence which has been presented here dozens of times in the past and which you adamently refuse to recognize. All you have is unsubstantiated by facts opinion that Germany was right. However the facts are now that Saddam is out of power and in jail. Al Queda is not free to operate in Iraq without military harrassment. Iraq is not free to produce and distribute WMD's under Saddam. Those are the verifiable facts. Your load of fertilizer is just a bunch of crap.