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EricaLubarsky · 06-06-2005, 11:44 AM

I thought it was totally average. They did what people wanted them to do-- more action, more lightsabers, more special effects but it still lacked soul.

I guess that makes me one of the grumpy fangirls and boys that knew that the new trilogy couldnt match up to the original trilogy no matter what, but saw the movies anyway. (well, actually I didnt see the second one after being disgusted by the first).

Well it was very entertaining, even if it wasnt half as good as the first three. Agree with others--

No Han Solo-- a bad thing

just a cameo of Chewey-- a bad thing

the two main characters (anakin and podrace) weren't as compelling as Luke and Leia.

the movie didnt flow well from action scenes to humorous scenes to emotional scenes-- all the emotional scenes seemed detached and disjointed

Not enough life in the movie-- the new trilogy was largely set in a dead, architectural world. The originals were better mixed between the evil technological worlds/places and the sometimes harsh natural environments that people survived in instead of dominating. Even Naboo just seemed shallow-- like you really couldnt picture someone living there, while you knew how people lived on Hoth and Tatoine.

Ewoks saved episode 6. More Wookies could have improved Ep 3.

Lucas was friends with Joseph Campbell who explained to Lucas what elements good stories have within them. The original trilogy had all the archetypes--

In the new three:

no real animal familiar except for the shaved raggae rabbit thing. Even R2D2 and 3CPO could be familiars but they weren't around in the new trilogy.

The shapeshifter isn't really there. Han Solo was the character that you didnt know you could trust. In Ep. 3 the shapeshifter was the protagonist and according to Joseph Campbell, that doesnt work.

The mentor-- broke down in ep. 3. Neither Yoda nor Obi Wan were really mentors anymore

The first trilogy was just epic-- it was Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. From the call to adventure (Leia requesting help), to the darkest hour/belly of the whale (trash compactor, etc) to the road of trials (training in the force), to meeting with the goddess (leia), to temptation from the true path (dark side tempation), to the apotheosis/becoming a hero/becoming godlike (becoming a jedi), to the rescue from without (Han rescues luke), it was as epic as Homer.

And lets face it, if you know how the story ends, the story isnt as interesting, and if you know the epic story of how someone saved the universe, you dont really want to see how the universe came into needing salvation. In that respect it was the idea of the prequel that really hurt Lucas. Although the movies could have been good despite that.

06-06-2005, 11:44 AM	#132
EricaLubarsky Inactive. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 42,677	RE: Star Wars: Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith I thought it was totally average. They did what people wanted them to do-- more action, more lightsabers, more special effects but it still lacked soul. I guess that makes me one of the grumpy fangirls and boys that knew that the new trilogy couldnt match up to the original trilogy no matter what, but saw the movies anyway. (well, actually I didnt see the second one after being disgusted by the first). Well it was very entertaining, even if it wasnt half as good as the first three. Agree with others-- No Han Solo-- a bad thing just a cameo of Chewey-- a bad thing the two main characters (anakin and podrace) weren't as compelling as Luke and Leia. the movie didnt flow well from action scenes to humorous scenes to emotional scenes-- all the emotional scenes seemed detached and disjointed Not enough life in the movie-- the new trilogy was largely set in a dead, architectural world. The originals were better mixed between the evil technological worlds/places and the sometimes harsh natural environments that people survived in instead of dominating. Even Naboo just seemed shallow-- like you really couldnt picture someone living there, while you knew how people lived on Hoth and Tatoine. Ewoks saved episode 6. More Wookies could have improved Ep 3. Lucas was friends with Joseph Campbell who explained to Lucas what elements good stories have within them. The original trilogy had all the archetypes-- In the new three: no real animal familiar except for the shaved raggae rabbit thing. Even R2D2 and 3CPO could be familiars but they weren't around in the new trilogy. The shapeshifter isn't really there. Han Solo was the character that you didnt know you could trust. In Ep. 3 the shapeshifter was the protagonist and according to Joseph Campbell, that doesnt work. The mentor-- broke down in ep. 3. Neither Yoda nor Obi Wan were really mentors anymore The first trilogy was just epic-- it was Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. From the call to adventure (Leia requesting help), to the darkest hour/belly of the whale (trash compactor, etc) to the road of trials (training in the force), to meeting with the goddess (leia), to temptation from the true path (dark side tempation), to the apotheosis/becoming a hero/becoming godlike (becoming a jedi), to the rescue from without (Han rescues luke), it was as epic as Homer. And lets face it, if you know how the story ends, the story isnt as interesting, and if you know the epic story of how someone saved the universe, you dont really want to see how the universe came into needing salvation. In that respect it was the idea of the prequel that really hurt Lucas. Although the movies could have been good despite that.