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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
He is not close to the top 5. He is somewhere between 15 and 25. Tell me who of these players you think he is better than.
Dirk
Kobe
Duncan
Wade
Lebron
Garnett
Marion
Brand
Iverson
Nash
JO
Tmac(when healthy)
Pierce
Vince Carter
Arenas
Maybe one or two of those are a arguable but no way is he top 10. There are several others i would much rather have than him even excluding his nuttiness. There are at least 20 guys i would rather start a franchise with even if he was completely sane.
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I take Artest over Iverson, JO, Tmac and Arenas, and Carter (who shouldn't even be on that list) and I don't even THINK about it. You listed all offensive guys, most of whom are defensive sieves, which is typical when people talk about the best players in the NBA.
The proof is in the pudding. You can argue why the Kings D is better all you want, but their turning point directly coincides with the trade. Artest's mere presence made them tougher and more defensive.