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Old 03-21-2007, 01:59 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Mavdog
your comments read like you are an anarchist....

in all due respect to rudy, here is the rest of the attributed comments in that speech:


so it seems that rudy is saying that there are limitations to individual freedom, and that recognizing those limits ("to cede to lawful authority") is a bedrock of a free society, and an important part of how we deal with each other.

I don't have a real disagreement with that concept, do you?
Yes

Conservatives once upon a time argued that the bedrock of a free society is in the moral character of the citizenry--that obedience to the authority of God is the source of freedom in society. Ethical behavior is what Rudy is talking about when he says 'we are afraid to reaffirm the basics upon which a lawful and a decent society are based.'

then Rudy pulls the bait and switch...."Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

Make no mistake, his interest here is in making an argument for the need to cede "greater discretion" (power) to the "legal authority" (him). What Rudy the baby-killin' hedonist totalitarian has done is twisted a classic conservative argument for obedience to God into a perverted argument for obedience to Government.

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