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Originally Posted by dude1394

I expect that there would such an outcry that they would either be forced by public opinion to release it or the guvment would create a law saying it was for national security.

No one with "free" energy technology is going to keep it a secret.

If the technology were in another country (especially a week country like in africa) someone would just take it. You are skirting very close to looney-tunes-land here methinks.

Really -- would you believe we have technology for a 50,000 HP Permanent Magnet Motor currently tested?

DRS Technologies Successfully Completes Testing of Permanent Magnet Motor System At US Navy Land-Based Test Site

PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 9, 2008--DRS Technologies, Inc. (NYSE: DRS) announced today that it has successfully completed full-power testing, as required by the U.S. Navy, of its power-dense Permanent Magnet Motor (PMM) and drive at the U.S. Navy's Integrated Power System (IPS) Land-Based Test Site (LBTS) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Engineering, design and development of the motor and drive were contracted to DRS as part of the DD(X) destroyer, now DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class Multi-Mission Surface Combatant, Engineering Development Model (EDM) program for inclusion into the IPS testing program.

DRS' Permanent Magnet Motor provides 36.5 megawatts (approximately 50,000 horsepower) and over two million foot-pounds of torque in a dual-ring design. During testing, the motor ran at full power on a single ring at 18.25 megawatts, the maximum load available at the Land-Based Test Site. This test validated the thermal and electrical operation of the motor and drive.

This milestone achievement validates that the company's Permanent Magnet Motor technology is a viable alternative for naval ship propulsion applications. DRS' Permanent Magnet Motor technology offers several benefits and advantages to the Navy over conventional ship propulsion systems, including high power density resulting in lower weight and volume than traditional motors, increased operating efficiency resulting in fuel savings, increased power and improved performance.

DRS has now embarked on an enhanced design of the motor, which incorporates lessons learned from the EDM testing. The company's evolutionary motor design will provide additional benefits to the Navy, including lower weight, decreased volume and greater performance.

"The validation of Permanent Magnet Motor technology is a significant milestone for the Navy and DRS," said Roger N. Sexauer, II, president of DRS' Power Systems business. "The completion of this test and our improved PMM motor design now provide the Navy with the confidence that the substantial weight, volume, cost and performance advantages of PMM technology can be realized in future ship designs."

Permanent Magnet Motor technology is a key component of next-generation all-electric drive ship systems. All-electric ships with integrated power systems allow an electric generation plant to supply sufficient power for all the ship's electrical requirements, including advanced weapons launch, combat and sonar systems, ship's maneuver and propulsion, among other power needs. DRS' Permanent Magnet Motor technology is applicable for all military electric drive propulsion systems and platforms, including the DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class Multi-Mission Combatant, CG(X) next-generation cruisers, submarines, mobile landing platforms and commercial marine applications.

Now we can get 50,000 HP, but can't get a couple of hundred for a car ? ?

Oh yea, I am in the looney tunes land -- that's right.

What technology did they use to get up to this size? I mean what would it take to drive a multi thousand ton sub through the water, but we can't drive a car down the road?

Also, google Orthohydrogen -- you might be able to find a few patents on designs that seem intriguing. I am not saying that they have this perfected in any way -- just that I know it to be feasible.

Using a orthohydrogen motor at constant speed as a generator to recharge batteries for an EV -- which is what would actually be the drive line of a vehicle is not way out right now.

Permanent Magnet Motors might even be a better option than orthohydrogen, and the concept is there -- I am just not sure it is as close to being perfected in a way that is economically feasible - yet.