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Old 10-07-2008, 04:33 PM   #16
dalmations202
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
I respect your opinion on who you vote for, but one thing is for sure. Obama has NEVER been Anti-American, Anti-Christ or any of those things you accuse him of. As of matter of fact, I am offended by ANY Christian that challenges Obama christianity. If you dont believe me go read the bible again on that issue. So, lets be clear on the Anti-Christ type remarks about Obama.
Wrong person. I didn't, and haven't said he is Anti-American or the Anti-Christ. In fact, I have studied more than enough to know he isn't the Anti-Christ because the Anti-Christ is born from the old Roman empire, from what I have read. So I have not accused him of anything except being flashy -- but not have a military background. As far as Anti-American -- that is in the eye of the beholder as to what American is.

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It is also those remarks about Obama being flashy and whatnot that is offensive because of the stereotype that has played in the part of Blacks. So, all flash and no substance is offensive to ANY black person when describing a black person. I am also offended that you think that blacks vote in the order of 1) he isn't Bush 2) he has flash/charisma 3) he is black 4) he is a democrat. That could not be farther from the truth.
I didn't mean it in any order. I meant that these are 4 reasons that I have talked with Democrats and Blacks - that I have been given as to why they WILL be voting for Obama. Even if they are against his views on abortion, etc. These are the reasons they place higher on their list of why they will vote for him. I don't vote based on the economy, the charisma, or style --- I try to see what is best (in alignment with what I believe the Bible says) for the country, pray, and vote for the best person available.

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Blacks vote on issues closest to them economically. If you are black and in the upper middle class or higher, more times than not, you will vote Republican. Same as for whites. If you are in the lower class you more times than not vote Democrat. Now, the only difference now is that for the first time the Democrat is black. So, guess what? More times than not, you will see lower class whites vote Republican for the first time, and lower class blacks continue to vote Democrat, like they have the entire time.
Isn't that what I said. I said that as a whole -- people vote for who they think will help themselves out the most -- sort of a thinking of ones self. I mean I know a few Black business owners, and they tend to vote Republican. I know a few White business owners, and they tend to vote Republican. I know a few Asian and Hispanic business owners, and they tend to not vote. As a whole though (not individual subsets) -- Blacks tend to vote for the Democrat (which is big Government) and Whites tend to lean towards the Republican (which is big Business).

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I want you to really look at what you just said!!! That has VERY racist undertones to it. If you took off the word "Selfish", it may not be so bad, but you spoke how you feel, so I cant argue with it. But to top it off you decided to say that government discriminated for blacks!!!! That is absolutely a lie. Please tell me when the govenment discriminated FOR blacks????? Please tell me, because last time I checked back in our history the government did NOTHING to help blacks when WE were getting lynched!!! NOTHING!!!!!
Come on now. Requiring business to hire a percentage of minorities didn't help integrate Blacks into the private business world?? I mean businesses who were blackmailed by the government to not hire based on qualification and $$$, but to hire to meet a quota. Affirmative Action???

Please, to discriminate means that they are treated DIFFERENTLY -- Affirmative Action does discriminate because it says you must train (spend more $$$), and hire based upon race. Sorry, but that is discrimination FOR.

Now, as to the lynching part or the slavery part. That is a horrible part of the history of the US. I haven't lynched anyone white, Black, Brown or any other color. I do not know anyone personally that was lynched who was white, Black, Brown or any other color. I am not saying that it hasn't/didn't happen. I am saying that man has killed man for lots of reasons, including skin color, religious preference, favorite sports team, drug preference, type of alcohol made, thoughts about certain females, etc. The government has outlawed all of it, but it still didn't keep it from happening. Man is still inhumane to man.

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So, please dont come at me with that mess, trying to justify why you dont like Obama. Your post told me the whole story. Sounds like you cooked up a silly story on Obama and why you have switched your vote to justify why you really won't vote for him. Keep in mind I just dissected your post.
I haven't cooked up any story and didn't switch my vote. I am an independent conservative who happened to be born white, and chose to be a follower of Jesus. I do not claim to be anything but a sinner -- who has been forgiven. I make mistakes, and try to ask forgiveness when I do. I ALWAYS think I am correct (at that time) -- why would I try to think wrongly? I am willing to listen, read, and think my way, and admit when I am incorrect though.

I really think you have thought I am someone else with your writing, because I haven't said/done near what you have said I have.
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