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Old 11-01-2008, 12:39 PM   #18
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fact check..
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
Fact: Obama attends the church of Rev. Wright for 20 years.
true
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Fact: Obama has called him his advisor and mentor.
spiritual advisor and mentor, true
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Fact: Obama cuts ties with this guy as soon as his (Wright's) sermons become publicly known and Obama decides to run for President.
first is true, he began his run for president over a year before he disassociated himself from wright.
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Fact: Obama has a pattern of behavior along these lines (Ayers, Rashid Khalid, Tony Rezko) to varying degrees.
not a fact, his relationship with these 3 people is different for each one. while it is a fact khalid and obama have been friends and socialized (and obama has not "cut his ties" with him), that relationship is not shown to be true about ayers. there is even less of a relationship with rezko.

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Conclusion: Throughout his life Obama has been willing to associate with people who have questionable agendas as long as no one is really paying attention. This may mean one or more of the following:

1) He is very naive (e.g. he doesn't realize the questionable agendas until someone from the outside tells him).

2) He is willing to use people for political gain regardless of their background or agenda.

3) He has radical views consistent with these past relationships and is trying (successfully) to hide this.

4) He is just one of those people who seems to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

5) The media is being too harsh on Obama because most politicians have similar relationships.

Imo, the truth is probably some combination of #1 and #2, but I sincerely fear #3 is also partly true.
he is not naive, he probably uses relationships for gain as much as anyone else does, these varied people have many varied views, some of which may be deemed "radical" while others are not, he isn't in the wrong place at the wrong time, and media scruntity comes with the territory.

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