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Originally Posted by Underdog
Most Jews think Ultra-Orthodox Jews are idiots - you're attributing the beliefs of a fundamentalist minority to the majority... Oversimplified generalizations don't have any place in science.
And you missed the edit in my last post about the Talmud... It's an ancient and ongoing debate among the Hebrews about how to translate the meaning of the Torah - it's not exactly scientific method, but it certainly is a call for evidence. Not every religion is created equally.
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Actually I come from a Jewish family, and that is not how the ultra-orthodox are viewed. For example, Israel subsidizes the ultra-orthodox to NOT work in Israel so they can spend all day to "study." Yes there are a lot of reform Jews who hate the ultra-orthodox, but most Jews don't think the ultra-orthodox are "idiots."
And the Talmud is more similar to a legal code. Not a scientific journal. It's full of a lot of opinion, but not necessarily facts. Saying sections of the Talmud are equivalent to scientifically performed studies, is like saying the opinion page of the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal are the equivalent of scientific studies.