OK, it's starting to get like Mavstalk in here (18 and under).
You guys that think you are talking punk with bands like Refused, Hellacopters, TOD, and INC? None of the above is true and it pisses me off that these bands try to claim that it is. Punk is dead, has been for years. This stuff...call it new punk, trance, hardcore industrial, whatever...but it ain't punk.
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Damn that Steve Kerr!
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