Mavdog:
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let's see, is it a fact or opinion that societies which have the highest rates of gun ownership also have the highest murder rates?
it is fact.
is it fact or opinion that societies that have the higher rates of gun ownership also have the higher rates of accidental death?
it is fact.
case closed. facts that support the opinions.
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The above was never debated. Those are so obviously true. I keep calling them your "Oh, Duh" comments because they are so obviously true...
Can you now move past these to the considerations of why we keep guns regardless of the "oh, Duh" statements?