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Originally Posted by Jet Terry
I would say Diop is significantly beefier. 15 pounds more and 7 inches smaller is a big difference imo. You missed all my points if you are saying that is my only reason that I think Diop is better. How about athleticism, energy, effort enthusiasm, better man to man defender, and better at getting steals or putting pressure on the defense to force more outside shots. Amazing the difference in the game when Diop comes out and Van Horn comes in. It is like night and day for the mavs defense. I think there are 3 things that should be looked at in overall defense.
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Now you are going to compare Diop to Van Horn! And even at that Diop isn't significantly outrebounding Keith. But heck, he's bound to be better than shawn WAS.
1. man to man defense- Diop is clearly better - I'll give you this one, but he's not great by any stretch to be honest. He's getting beat by stronger players pretty regularly.
2. Shot blocking-slight edge to Bradley - Huge edge to shawn, no contest and if you think so you are just being stubborn.
3. Defensive rebounding- Though the stats are equal the team rebounding is better since they don't have to play zone. Do you disagree with these 3 ideas on defense?
I pointed out that the teams rebounding wasn't significantly better or worse in 02-03 when the zone came in. You ignored it of course because I think it had data in it...
So no I don't agree with 2 out of the 3 points you make.