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Old 05-05-2008, 09:34 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by alexamenos
a nice little run down on "the Bishop's Records", ie some imporant stuff, here....

The bishop's records are the states prime source of information that old dudes are hittin' (figuratively) younger women. Recognizing that the State really can't prosecute a fellow for having sex in Utah with a girl who is now 18 and doesn't complain (in the legal sense)....

....in summary, there's some icky stuff. There's some really normal stuff. There's some stuff which isn't really that icky but is possibly illegal (like 19 year olds with 16 year old brides but no marriage license). Then there's stuff which isn't normal and also isn't so much icky as indicative that these folks have a very different view of what it means to be married, like one husband in his 60's with multiple wives over the age of 70.

and then there's stuff which is icky and quite possibly (although not definitely) illegal, like:



four dudes, possibly five, that may well be deserving of some sort of a charge...that is if marriage in these cases includes not just the spiritual but also the physical consummation (something we can't say with certainty).

and you've got possibly 4 girls, maybe 5, who are under the age of 18 and subject to what is possibly sexual abuse. I wouldn't argue with anyone that says that these 4 or 5 girls should be taken and that the situations should be investigated further, but that hasn't happened here, and this isn't what the State is arguing.
As I said before, I think the legal approach is going to be:
1)prove a few cases of a crime such as statutory rape or polygamy if the legal charge fits.
2)prove conspiracy to hide that system of ongoing intentional crime
3)jail all the leadership and others that can be construed guilty of that conspiracy
4)hope that jailing the leadership will stop the group (it won't).
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