12-03-2015, 10:21 AM
|
#1
|
Guru
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 23,219
|
Zaza Pachulia
Great article about how Milwaukee's defense has been much worse without him and obviously how much he has helped the Mavs. This was my favorite tidbit from it...
Quote:
Opponents are shooting 49 percent on shots inside of five feet when Pachulia is defending, per NBA.com player tracking data. That's a respectable mark that's significantly better than outgoing Dallas center Tyson Chandler and barely worse than DeAndre Jordan, the big man Dallas really wanted this summer.
|
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/12/2/98...reakdown-stats
__________________
"Cream of the crop gon' rise to the top." -Jaden Hardy
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 12:05 PM
|
#2
|
The Preacha
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Rock
Posts: 36,066
|
Good stuff.
__________________
ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 01:13 PM
|
#3
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 482
|
Great read
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 03:52 PM
|
#4
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 11,773
|
Wonder how much he will cost to keep around after his contract is up.
Deron too...I really like both of these guys as part of a core. Even though they are at the end of their primes.
__________________
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 04:11 PM
|
#5
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,549
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Wonder how much he will cost to keep around after his contract is up.
Deron too...I really like both of these guys as part of a core. Even though they are at the end of their primes.
|
Good news is we have Zaza's Bird Rights as he's in the last year of 3yr deal. We can go over to re-sign him and Powell too maybe.
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 04:42 PM
|
#6
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 40,410
|
Dwain Price– Verified account @DwainPrice
#Mavs F Dirk Nowitzki on Zaza Pachulia's 21 rebounds against Portland on Tuesday: "He was great. He stole a good six of mine
__________________
"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 04:58 PM
|
#7
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude1394
F Dirk Nowitzki on Zaza Pachulia's 21 rebounds against Portland on Tuesday: "He was great. He stole a good six of mine
|
Diggit.
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 05:20 PM
|
#8
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Dunkanville
Posts: 76
|
He stole 21 of mine and left a meaty bone.
Just kidding, love Zaza for holding down the fort!
__________________
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 05:22 PM
|
#9
|
Guru
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 23,219
|
Dirk's defense does seem improved this season. I wonder if Pachulia has nudged him a bit into focusing more on that end. Wouldn't surprise me.
__________________
"Cream of the crop gon' rise to the top." -Jaden Hardy
|
|
|
12-03-2015, 07:13 PM
|
#10
|
Guru
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Brasil
Posts: 15,401
|
|
|
|
12-31-2015, 11:55 AM
|
#11
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
Zaza had 15 double-doubles in 73 games last season... He has 17 in 32 games this season.
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
01-03-2016, 12:47 PM
|
#12
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
This season (34 games) compared to his career numbers:
15-16: 28.5 MPG / 10.8 PPG / 10.5 RPG
Career: 21.3 MPG / 7.1 PPG / 5.8 RPG
This season compared to his best all-around season (05-06):
05-06: 31.4 MPG / 11.7 PPG / 7.9 RPG
15-16: 28.5 MPG / 10.8 PPG / 10.5 RPG
How the hell is it possible that a guy who's been in the league for 12 years is having a better season now than he did a decade ago?? Is it Rick Carlisle's system? Playing next to Dirk? A winning culture? All of the above? What's going on here???
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
01-03-2016, 12:57 PM
|
#13
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bee Cave, Texas
Posts: 3,245
|
contract year.
Nah - I really think that after being on rather youngish teams for his career he loves his fellow teammates focus on "team ball" and also likes coach'em up Rick C.
Last edited by dirt_dobber; 01-03-2016 at 01:02 PM.
|
|
|
01-04-2016, 10:08 AM
|
#14
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,200
|
Agree. 1) more veteran type of team and 2) better coaching to put players in a position to play well.
Playing with Dirk may have a little to do with it, but I really think it's more the other guys.
|
|
|
01-05-2016, 01:34 AM
|
#15
|
Moderator
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 17,873
|
I knew I'd love his aggression and demeanor, but I have been massively and pleasantly surprised with his production. As DD said, I think it's just a better fit for him than some of his previous stops.
__________________
John Madden on Former NFL Running Back Leroy Hoard: "You want one yard, he'll get you three. You want five yards, he'll get you three."
"Your'e a low-mentality drama gay queen!!" -- She_Growls
|
|
|
01-05-2016, 03:26 PM
|
#16
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oak Cliff
Posts: 545
|
One factor I believe is definitely in play here:
This year's squad has a coach-designed practice of only Zaza crashing the offensive glass and all four other players running back to prevent easy transition baskets. So with that approach, he will naturally grab some more rebounds.
This doesn't explain it all, but it's part of it.
Zaza has also recently said publicly how happy he is to be playing for a team that is all about the team succeeding. So I imagine that plays a part in his late-career resurgence here.
He really is a very likeable, hard working player and I'm glad the Mavs got him.
|
|
|
01-05-2016, 05:02 PM
|
#17
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 5,470
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunkmoreland
One factor I believe is definitely in play here:
This year's squad has a coach-designed practice of only Zaza crashing the offensive glass and all four other players running back to prevent easy transition baskets. So with that approach, he will naturally grab some more rebounds.
This doesn't explain it all, but it's part of it.
Zaza has also recently said publicly how happy he is to be playing for a team that is all about the team succeeding. So I imagine that plays a part in his late-career resurgence here.
He really is a very likeable, hard working player and I'm glad the Mavs got him.
|
Has Zaza ever been in a primary starter role like he has been here?
Has he ever gotten this many mpg?
|
|
|
01-05-2016, 10:02 PM
|
#18
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oak Cliff
Posts: 545
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rimrocker
Has Zaza ever been in a primary starter role like he has been here?
Has he ever gotten this many mpg?
|
Not sure that he was a primary starter, but as Underdog pointed out, he averaged fewer rebounds on more minutes per game back in '06.
|
|
|
01-07-2016, 08:38 PM
|
#19
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,629
|
ZAZA FO LIFE
__________________
|
|
|
01-07-2016, 09:50 PM
|
#20
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,908
|
Zaza...
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 03:31 AM
|
#21
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Hudson, WI
Posts: 3,938
|
I *hate* the All Star Game... casual NBA fans are the shits.
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 10:32 AM
|
#22
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,788
|
All star voting:
Western Conference - Frontcourt
1 Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,262,118
2 Kevin Durant (OKC) 616,096
3 Draymond Green (GS) 332,223
4 Kawhi Leonard (SA) 330,929
5 Blake Griffin (LAC) 298,212
6 Anthony Davis (NO) 261,491
7 Tim Duncan (SA) 228,995
8 Zaza Pachulia (Dal) 194,421
9 DeMarcus Cousins (Sac) 190,060
10 Enes Kanter (OKC) 183,468
11 LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 124,404
12 Dwight Howard (Hou) 120,424
13 Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 99,681
14 DeAndre Jordan (LAC) 91,186
Zaza leads the Mavs in all star votes. Also, he has 100,000 more votes than DJ!
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 11:32 AM
|
#23
|
Inactive.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 42,986
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BPo001
All star voting:
Western Conference - Frontcourt
1 Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,262,118
2 Kevin Durant (OKC) 616,096
3 Draymond Green (GS) 332,223
4 Kawhi Leonard (SA) 330,929
5 Blake Griffin (LAC) 298,212
6 Anthony Davis (NO) 261,491
7 Tim Duncan (SA) 228,995
8 Zaza Pachulia (Dal) 194,421
9 DeMarcus Cousins (Sac) 190,060
10 Enes Kanter (OKC) 183,468
11 LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 124,404
12 Dwight Howard (Hou) 120,424
13 Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 99,681
14 DeAndre Jordan (LAC) 91,186
Zaza leads the Mavs in all star votes. Also, he has 100,000 more votes than DJ!
|
Best part is Zaza is beating Deandre
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 12:20 PM
|
#24
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Best part is Zaza is beating Deandre
|
Hell, Old Man Dirk is beating DeAndra.
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 01:11 PM
|
#25
|
Guru
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 23,219
|
Amazing that people are actually paying attention to what Zaza is doing. The fact that he has more votes than a guy twice as talented as him (Cousins) just shows the respect he gets for hard work and smarts.
__________________
"Cream of the crop gon' rise to the top." -Jaden Hardy
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 07:47 PM
|
#26
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,788
|
|
|
|
01-08-2016, 11:56 PM
|
#27
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 11,773
|
Zaza: "Mavs were soft, had no energy, wouldnt share the ball offensively"
"We came out like it was a third day off. Its disappointing. We arent built like that"
"Everyone needs to look in the mirror as to how they prepare. Bring your energy. Bring your effort"
"We have great chemistry we have great guys. We just need to find that consistency to come out with that same killing mentality every night"
Glad someone is saying the things that need to be said. Hes exactly right. Cavs/Thunder b2b then bulls after a day off coming up soon. Lets hope the Mavs are ready to run.
__________________
|
|
|
01-09-2016, 08:13 AM
|
#28
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,694
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Glad someone is saying the things that need to be said. Hes exactly right. Cavs/Thunder b2b then bulls after a day off coming up soon. Lets hope the Mavs are ready to run.
|
I figured it would be Zaza or Wes who would have comments like this. Which is why they are my two favorites outside of the GOAT.
|
|
|
01-12-2016, 09:27 PM
|
#30
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,754
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thebo
|
I can't imagine the Mavericks letting Zaza go. He was a steal and is a wonderful fit for this team. I love that young Center in Miami, but don't go after him and lose Zaza. It's not worth it. We need to live and learn from our mistakes. We had DJ and then we didn't. Luckily we do have Zaza. Embrace that!
__________________
Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka | Luka
|
|
|
01-12-2016, 10:44 PM
|
#31
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,788
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedlesKane
I can't imagine the Mavericks letting Zaza go. He was a steal and is a wonderful fit for this team. I love that young Center in Miami, but don't go after him and lose Zaza. It's not worth it. We need to live and learn from our mistakes. We had DJ and then we didn't. Luckily we do have Zaza. Embrace that!
|
Zaza has said this is the best environment he has been in team wise. Him and Dirk seem to enjoy each other on and off the court. I'm not sure what his contract situation is, but I think he wants to be here.
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 07:14 PM
|
#32
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
@ESPNSteinLine: Zaza Pachulia only missed a starting spot by 14,000 votes??? Wows
@ESPNSteinLine: The Big Georgian > The Big German
@ESPNSteinLine: I think this means Zaza Pachulia has supplanted Georgi Kinkladze as the greatest Georgian sportsman ever. What an All-Star run from @zaza27
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 07:31 PM
|
#33
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,154
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@ESPNSteinLine: Zaza Pachulia only missed a starting spot by 14,000 votes??? Wows
@ESPNSteinLine: The Big Georgian > The Big German
@ESPNSteinLine: I think this means Zaza Pachulia has supplanted Georgi Kinkladze as the greatest Georgian sportsman ever. What an All-Star run from @zaza27
|
He would be in if Kobe didn't count as a forward.
__________________
77
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 07:47 PM
|
#34
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AO41
He would be in if Kobe didn't count as a forward.
|
I've watched zero Lakers basketball outside of their 2 games against Dallas -- has LA been using him in 3 guard lineups, what's going on there?
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
Last edited by Underdog; 01-21-2016 at 07:47 PM.
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 07:54 PM
|
#35
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: BRAZIL
Posts: 3,760
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
I've watched zero Lakers basketball outside of their 2 games against Dallas -- has LA been using him in 3 guard lineups, what's going on there?
|
He always starts at the 3 alongside a backcourt of Clarkson-Lou Williams (who at some point replaced D'Bustelo Russell)
Holy shit at Zaza though, I knew he had more votes than Dirk but never imagined he'd get this close to a starting spot lmao. I wonder if Dirk himself has ever gottenthis close
__________________
Quote:
Dirk Nowitzki is a monster of epic and unattainable proportion. Seriously, he must be stopped.
|
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 07:55 PM
|
#36
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Holy shit at Zaza though, I knew he had more votes than Dirk but never imagined he'd get this close to a starting spot lmao. I wonder if Dirk himself has ever gottenthis close
|
@MFollowill: To think of all the idle time wasted when I should have been voting for Zaza more. Missed All-Star starter by 14-thousand votes
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 08:00 PM
|
#37
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: BRAZIL
Posts: 3,760
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@MFollowill: To think of all the idle time wasted when I should have been voting for Zaza more. Missed All-Star starter by 14-thousand votes
|
That's just what I was thinking haha. I never vote for this thing but to get something like this done it would definitely be worth it.
__________________
Quote:
Dirk Nowitzki is a monster of epic and unattainable proportion. Seriously, he must be stopped.
|
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 08:55 PM
|
#38
|
Guru
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 23,219
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@MFollowill: To think of all the idle time wasted when I should have been voting for Zaza more. Missed All-Star starter by 14-thousand votes
|
I think the honorable mention is good enough. Plus, he is the total opposite of what an all-star player needs to be to have fun in that game.
__________________
"Cream of the crop gon' rise to the top." -Jaden Hardy
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 09:27 PM
|
#39
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 7,788
|
Man, that would have been so awesome if Zaza got voted as an all star starter.
|
|
|
01-21-2016, 10:06 PM
|
#40
|
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 41.21.1
Posts: 36,143
|
When the inevitable injury alternate comes available, would the fans prefer Zaza or Dirk?
(probably the last chance for either, but the ONLY chance for Zaza... I know who Dirk would choose!)
__________________
These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works.
Last edited by Underdog; 01-21-2016 at 10:07 PM.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:26 PM.
|