Why can't jkiddo make a layup?

[dude1394]

I'm at a loss...I cannot understand how a guy can be so good at dribbling, passing and just a wizard with a basketball but cannot hit a layup?

I mean...come on. Even if it's not contested. Anyone looked closely at why he misses 'em.

Brandon Bass has certainly noticed..when he sees Jkiddo going in for a layup..he's thinking I'm going to clean up this brick and get me some points.

[darkwitzki]

You should've named the thread "Kidd doesn't care anymore" I think his hands got so twisted in dashing sickly passes that when it's time to lay it up gently, he had no control over it.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Well he just needs to mix it up on offense. His shot selection is still pretty poor if you ask me.

I really wish he would work in the post more like Marc Jackson (the pg) use to do. At least that way you are taking higher percentage shots. He is big enough to back down almost any pg.

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I really wish he would work in the post more like Marc Jackson (the pg) use to do. At least that way you are taking higher percentage shots. He is big enough to back down almost any pg.

I wish he'd do some of this too. Last year v. NO he posted up Paul quite often in the first couple of games, but he was so reluctant to do anything -- just hoping for a double so he could pass out -- that B. Scott never brought the double...it wound up just burning time off the clock.

[LonghornDub]

Kidd could up his scoring average by 3-4 ppg if he could make easy layups and stop doing the little hitch step before he shoots "three's" where he puts his toe on the line.

[dude1394]

He could increase his scoring by 4 points JUST by making uncontested layups...I'm not even talking about contested ones.

I still don't get it.

Jason...see the square on the backboard...put the ball there.. He tries to teardrop everything I guess.

Maybe he's got a multi-faceted eyeball. You know he can see in 180 degrees perfectly, but right in front of him, he can't focus. It baffles me, it really does.

It's as strange a thing as I've ever seen with respect to a basketball player. I'll watch him warmup the next few times to see if he makes them then. I honestly can't recall ever seeing him take one in warmups.

And as someone else said, backing someone down to ONLY pass out is a waste of time.

[jthig32]

I don't know how many completely uncontested onces he misses....

I think the reason he misses layups in a clogged lane , and why he doesn't drive enough, is becuase he's scared of having his shot blocked. Everytime he starts to go up for a layup it's like he tries to look 360 degrees to make quadruple suresure he's not about to get blocked. At least that's what I see.

[BGMaverick9]

I just see him getting all fancy and aerobatic when he really doesn't need to. Just go up aggressive and decisive, live with the result.

[Rick41]

The toe on the line thing by jkidd is the most annoying thing in the world to me.

[chumdawg]

This is the most ridiculous thread I have seen in a good long while. At least the newbies tend to focus on something important.

[jasonkido]

jason kidd has no offense whatsoever. He can't do a jump shot. He can shoot floaters like cp3. He can't lay it up. Thats his playing style. He is a low percentage shooter but a great passer. I think everybody knew this glaring weakness when we traded devin for him.

[MaVs 41 BaLler]

He's scared that a defender will come from behind and block it.
Also he is looking to pass it first...then notices he can't and chucks it up.

[MaVs 41 BaLler]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

This is the most ridiculous thread I have seen in a good long while. At least the newbies tend to focus on something important.

It's ok it was made by one of the Guru's.....let it go.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

It's ok it was made by one of the Guru's.....let it go.

I never expect much else.

[Nowitzkizer]

Originally Posted by jasonkido

jason kidd has no offense whatsoever. He can't do a jump shot. He can shoot floaters like cp3. He can't lay it up. Thats his playing style. He is a low percentage shooter but a great passer. I think everybody knew this glaring weakness when we traded devin for him.

True, everyone knows that Kidd isn't a great shooter. But I hope he knows that he needs to step that part of his game up if he ever wants to win a championship. I was hoping so much that the change in scenery would get Kidd to put up 15+ PPG but age has really hit him and his constant declining numbers show it. He's not being asked to put up CP3 numbers.. just vintage Kidd numbers. How amazing would this team be if he averages 15PPG 8APG 6RPG..

[alby]

Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

He's scared that a defender will come from behind and block it.
Also he is looking to pass it first...then notices he can't and chucks it up.

this has always been Kidd's thing, he is looking to dish... even on layups. Its a mentality, and you can't change how you play after 35 years of playing a certain style. His greatest asset is his greatest downfall. He's a modern-day superhero. Go Kidd and go Mavs.

[EricaLubarsky]

He just needs to think of a layup as a bounce pass to the hoop.

[catsil]

Kidd never had the jump shot but it boggles me how he misses even layups nowadays. It's like until the last second he releases the shot he's still looking around if there are any open shooters

[twelli]

Originally Posted by Rick41

The toe on the line thing by jkidd is the most annoying thing in the world to me.

For me it's not.

For me it's the most annoying thing in the WHOLE UNIVERSE.

It's probably because of his court vision. He needs to see the whole picture you know, no time to look down there.

[MavericksFan5912]

Chip shots like layups usually reflect a players confidence level. I think JKiddo is realizing that he's not as young as he used to be and it's affecting his confidence, which in turn shows up in blow oppurtunities at the basket.

That causes him to not want to go to drive the lane at all and settle for semi-open jumpers... which causes him to be an ineffective offensive option.

[SMC0007]

yeah

[Kidd Karma]

I think it's just one of those things, getting up in the air and have no idea what you want to do with it. The shot is a last resort and since his hangtime ain't what it use to, he just lobs one up.

[Kidd Karma]

It's the simplest thing, drive it in, you attract defenders, then find where the weakside help is coming from and dish it, if there's not help then finish or at least draw contact.

[triplethreat]

Come on guys, he's trying to pass it off the front of the rim.

The refs never give Kidd the foul call anyway, so I think he is reluctant to drive in.

[StackAttack]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He just needs to think of a layup as a bounce pass to the hoop.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EricaLubarsky again.

[MavericksFan5912]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

It's the simplest thing, drive it in, you attract defenders, then find where the weakside help is coming from and dish it, if there's not help then finish or at least draw contact.

The problem is that when Kidd drives in - he doesn't attract defenders any more because they know that he'll change his shot or not take a shot at all at the first sign of help defense. If you watched the Celtics play early last season before Rondo developed he had the same problem... he'd get in the paint easy but because he couldn't score the ball, opponents didn't help off their men as much. Compare that to CP3 who can score 30 points or dish out 20 assists (sometimes both) on any given night - which is why he's so hard to guard.

Bottom line: you have to be able to make layups (at minimum) to have teams play help defense when you attack the rim.

[alby]

what a layup by Kidd!

[catsil]

Lol every time we called out a player, he goes out for a great game :-)

[vRookie]

Originally Posted by catsil

Lol every time we called out a player, he goes out for a great game :-)

May be we should call out Cuban next? So he can trade for a great player

[dirno2000]

Kidd has always had trouble finishing at the rim. I remember a quote after his fresman year at Cal where he talked about needing to finish like Tim Hardaway before he was ready to go to the league.

He seemed to be a decent enough finisher in PHX and NJ but that part of his game has suffered with age. IMO that's why he doesn't go to the basket more. Missing lay ups is embarrasing for anybody. While he may have lost a step he's still pretty quick and changes direction on a dime so he can get the to basket at will.

[craggmac]

I do believe that Kidd made the only lay-up that he shot today.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by vRookie

May be we should call out Cuban next? So he can trade for a great player

Perhaps call out the Mavericks as a whole? Maybe a "The Mavs don't care anymore thread" thread?

If it caused a 10 game win streak, I'd take it

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by craggmac

I do believe that Kidd made the only lay-up that he shot today.

No wonder he scored 22 points.

[nikeball]

I'd rather him make all those 3s than layups.