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Stoudemire out with knee injury
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Stoudemire out with knee injury
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 8, 2005 12:00 AM
TUCSON - Amaré Stoudemire is out for an indeterminate amount of time and could be facing surgery because of the left knee that has been troubling him this summer.
A Tucson specialist examined Stoudemire's knee today after Stoudemire practiced at the morning session. He did not return for the evening practice but remains at the team hotel.
The team's medical staff planned to meet later tonight to decide the next step for Stoudemire.
"We're going through the evaluation process and we're going to make sure we have all the information before a determination is made to pursue treatment, possible surgery (and) what the safest and best return is for him to come back to basketball," Suns President and General Manager Bryan Colangelo said.
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10-08-2005, 12:43 AM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Good news for us.
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10-08-2005, 12:46 AM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
I hope it's not serious. You hate to see a player go down before the season even gets started. Hopefully it's not as bad as they're thinking right now.
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10-08-2005, 12:49 AM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Amare Stoudamire will go as far as his knees take him.
Considering he puts so much stress on them day in and day out, you can't help but believe it won't be very far.
...Looks like the MVP may have his work cut out for him.
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10-08-2005, 01:03 AM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
I hope Tim Duncan has a serious ankle injury.
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10-08-2005, 01:35 AM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
couldnt have happened to a nicer, more down-to-earth guy.
Seriously though, I wish fire and brimstone on the Suns but I want to open the season with a whupping on a full-strength Suns team.
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10-08-2005, 03:59 AM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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couldnt have happened to a nicer, more down-to-earth guy.
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Yeah, I always thought Black Jesus there seemed like a really humble, modest character.
I agree with you though, I do want to beat the Suns at full strength.
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10-08-2005, 09:57 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
then we agree on both points because I was being sarcastic on the first point. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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10-08-2005, 10:12 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
Hate to see this happen. I'd like to cream the suns when they're at full strength. I don't want there to be any excuses on why the "lowly" mavs managed to fell the "mighty" suns.
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10-08-2005, 11:05 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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then we agree on both points because I was being sarcastic on the first point. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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I knew you were [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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10-08-2005, 11:10 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
On the upside, this will give Amare more time to tackle his literacy problem.
Good luck buddy! If Fantasia can do it, then you can to.
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10-09-2005, 01:20 AM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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On the upside, this will give Amare more time to tackle his literacy problem.
Good luck buddy! If Fantasia can do it, then you can to.
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HAHAH
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10-09-2005, 05:45 AM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
The Suns were plain out lucky last regular season they didn't have any tough injurys all season long. If Stoudemire can't play the season opener, then there's no way we lose that game.
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10-10-2005, 02:45 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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Originally posted by: Arne
The Suns were plain out lucky last regular season they didn't have any tough injurys all season long. If Stoudemire can't play the season opener, then there's no way we lose that game.
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10-10-2005, 04:38 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
I just drafted Amare in fantasy.....I needs him dunking on your pumpkin head!!!!
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10-10-2005, 05:42 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Amare to have surgery
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 10, 2005
Suns star Amaré Stoudemire will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Tuesday morning, according to his manager.
Team physician Thomas Carter will perform the scope on the left knee that has troubled Stoudemire since the summer. Stoudemire had been practicing at camp in Tucson last week until he received a second opinion from a Tucson specialist.
That prompted Stoudemire to visit with an orthopedic surgeon, Warren Strudwick, in Oakland on Sunday. He agreed with Carter's recommendation for an arthroscopy. The hope is that Stoudemire could return to playing in November if the scope does not show any unknown problems.
“We're pretty optimistic that it'll be something minor,” Stoudemire's manager, Rodney Rice, said. “Hopefully, he will be back on the court soon.”
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10-10-2005, 05:44 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Isn't that pretty irresponsible to wait until training camp begins to deal with an injury?
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10-10-2005, 05:50 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
first get the contract, then "discover" the ailment.
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10-10-2005, 06:25 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
I honestly wish the same for TD, Gino, TP, JJax, Kobe, Bibs, SAR, and anyone else in the west who could potentially screw us over.
Also, nash is still teh suck
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10-11-2005, 12:49 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Amare out four months
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
The Suns received devastating news this morning regarding their All-Star big man.
Suns star Amaré Stoudemire’s arthroscopic surgery evolved into a microfracture procedure on his left knee this morning, according to his manager.
Team physician and orthopedic surgeon Thomas Carter found Stoudemire’s cartilage damage to be more severe than anticipated. Stoudermire’s manager, Rodney Rice, said the power forward is expected be out for four months because of the surgery.
“It was better to do the microfracture now instead of chancing that the lesion would grow, which might affect Amaré down the road,” said Rice, who was in the room during this morning’s scope. “It was best to do the procedure now.”
Suns fans remember how microfracture surgery greatly changed the game of Penny Hardaway but Rice said Stoudemire should not be as adversely affected because he is having the operation at a younger age and at a time when the lesion is smaller. During a microfracture, holes are drilled into the bone. The cells then come up with the blood through the holes and form into cartilage.
“He’s got a lot of things in his favor to come back in a strong way,” Rice said.
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10-11-2005, 12:58 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
So much for the Suns' season
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10-11-2005, 01:04 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
That flushing sound was the Suns season and Amares career at the same time. Some how the toilet didnt get clogged.
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10-11-2005, 01:10 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Why the hell didn't he have the knee scoped immediately after he started feeling pain? This is just dumb.
Is he so selfish that he wanted to get a contract and let the season slide? Nash isn't getting any younger.
I can't believe that the Suns WOULDN'T have offered him a max extension if he had undergone surgery a few months ago. After all, big men don't come easy and he's much younger than the other players that have had microfracture surgery(kidd, webber..and kidd is doing just fine).
Dumb dumb dumb..oh well.
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10-11-2005, 01:14 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Kidd didnt rely nearly as much on his athletecism and has clearly lost a step. Fortunately he knows how to play basketball something im not sure Amare does.
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10-11-2005, 01:17 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
What's their line-up now?
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10-11-2005, 01:21 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
so best case scenario is the Suns stay competitive and Amare comed back at full health with a little less than 2 months left.
They will probably play
someone...Grant? Burke?
Kurt Thomas/J. Jones
Marion/Diaw
Bell/Jackson
Nash/Barbosa
or might go small with
Thomas
Marion
Diaw (or Jones?)
Bell
Nash
and Nash is going to be logging major minutes
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10-11-2005, 01:22 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
If I were the Suns I'd probably look at something like this:
Nash
Raja
JJ
Marion
KT
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10-11-2005, 01:23 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
My guess is you'll see alot more of Pat Burke and Brian Grant with Kurt Thomas playing the 4 spot. When they go small James Jones can play the 3 with Marion at the 4 but it won't be near the same with KT instead of Amare.
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10-11-2005, 01:34 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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Originally posted by: Five-ofan
Kidd didnt rely nearly as much on his athletecism and has clearly lost a step. Fortunately he knows how to play basketball something im not sure Amare does.
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Kidd was putting up 15, 7, 8 last year. How can he lose a step if his rebounds are at a career high? That tells me he was crashing the boards even more after the surgery. He stopped shooting too much, which was a good thing for the Nets.
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10-11-2005, 01:59 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
didn't like the self proclaimed black jesus anyways.
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10-11-2005, 02:18 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
I don't think that they can rely on big minutes from Grant, he has not played big minutes in a long time. Grant is undersized as a Center as is, they have no choice but to go small.
Nash - House
Bell - Jackson
Jones - Diaw
Marion - Grant
Thomas - Burke
God, that's a thin frontline. This does not look like a playoff team in the West.
So, four months? Make it three because he is young and youth heals faster then age, and that puts him back around the All-Star break.
The Suns can still make a run the final months and make one of the lower seeds, We should be careful of what we ask for, they could be a first round opponent.
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10-11-2005, 03:20 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
You dont come back from microfracture surgery in 3 months no matter how young you are.
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10-11-2005, 03:57 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
Nash has a lot to prove. If he can even come close to duplicating last season's numbers and record with this team then he will be very deserving of a MVP repeat.
If not then there is even more reason to question his earning the MVP in the first place.
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10-11-2005, 04:54 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
Now we get to see how valuable Nash really is. In other words, was it Nash who made Amare look good, or was it Amare who made Nash look good? It should be fun to watch.
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10-11-2005, 05:29 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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I hope Tim Duncan has a serious ankle injury.
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dude are you serious? I dispise the eagles (yes i am a life long cowboy fan) but i don't want terrel owens to get hurt..
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10-11-2005, 05:31 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
Yes, I'm serious. And I'd love nothing more than for Terrell Owens to suffer a season-ending injury. I want McNabb to stick around, but I'd really like to see TO go.
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10-11-2005, 05:54 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
He doesn't mean it injury gods...please don't strike down a key Cowboy or Mav....
The Suns are screwed...they don't even have a center. Doesn't matter as much if you have Amare abusing every center in the league but who does a front line of KT, Brian Grant and a disgruntled Shawn Marion scare? They're probably going to have to play Nash a little more than they'd like just to stay afloat.
I wonder if Sarver would have CTC if he knew Amare would have microfracture surgery the next week.
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10-11-2005, 07:07 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
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Originally posted by: grndmstr_c
If I were the Suns I'd probably look at something like this:
Nash
Raja
JJ
Marion
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that is a losing line no doubt....
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10-11-2005, 07:12 PM
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RE: Stoudemire out with knee injury
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toudemire’s anticipated return to competitive basketball is approximately four months.
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wow...that is not cool for my fantasy team...
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10-11-2005, 07:34 PM
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RE:Stoudemire out with knee injury
I'm torn between my desire to see the Mavs stomp the Suns at the top of their game, and that absolute pleasure I take in seeing them suffer. My ideal senario: they tank until Amare comes back 100% and the Suns end up with a low seeding, and then get annihilated in the first round by the Mavs.
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