Mavs at Nets: L 34-16 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

ddh33 · 02-10-2008, 09:42 PM

New Jersey 101, Dallas 82. Didn't see that coming. The Mavs were actually up double figures halfway through the second quarter when the wheels fell off. From the mid-point of the second to the mid-point of the third, the Nets were +30. Let me say that again. Within a 12 minute span, the Mavs were outscored by 30 points by the New Jersey Freaking Nets! Seriously.

I know Devin is out. I know Stack is missing. I know Damp barely played. But come on. Dallas was bad on offense, bad on defense, and out-rebounded.

I don't know about you guys, but these sort of games don't exactly inspire me. I'm not feeling the whole "we love our team" mantra. I don't think championship teams do this. Hope I'm wrong.

Vince Carter got hot tonight, and the Mavs couldn't do anything with him. You saw why I would still be willing to make an offer for him, hoping to get him cheap.

Jason Kidd was probably the best player on the court too. During that run I mentioned, Jason Kidd looked like a composer or something. He just directed that show, ran the game at the tempo he wanted, and got everybody good looks.

We really miss Devin Harris. Have I said that yet? Harris is so much better than a lot of fans realize at doing a lot of those same things, and Devin's ability to put the ball in the basket while making life easier for his teammates is irreplaceable.

JJ was a non-factor.

Seems like Eddie Jones hasn't done anything in a while but foul. I think he's missing Devin as much as anybody.

Josh didn't shoot well, and he wasn't a factor on the boards. He was the third best swing man on the floor today.

Dirk's stat line was a lot better than he was today. 21-8-4 usually earns some compliments. Today, I thought he looked a step slow, and he couldn't make shots.

Jason Terry still isn't a point guard. He couldn't do anything to control pace, and Kidd went wherever he wanted when Jet was on him.

Bass was good again. Like I said, we're at the point where you can just about expect 12 and 6 from every night.

George was active but not overly impressive.

Diop had 4, 4, and 2 blocks. He didn't get a lot of minutes though.

Just a bad game from a lot of people.

Underdog · 02-10-2008, 09:59 PM

It seemed like tonight's game was a showcase for why the Mavs should go after Kidd...

Everything he did, Dallas needed (14 assists, 13 points, 6 rebounds - our PGs COMBINED for 5 assists, 13 points, 6 rebounds...)

Not that I think he's the solution to all our problems, but he would have been tonight...

Usually Lurkin · 02-10-2008, 10:08 PM

It's also a good showcase for why it's a bad idea to wake Carter out of his normal state of apathy. I was real happy that Bass battled so hard for that possession until I saw how fired up Carter was when he came back. Would've made for a great game if any of the Mavs had gotten equally excited about playing a game of basketball.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-10-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ddh33

I don't know about you guys, but these sort of games don't exactly inspire me. I'm not feeling the whole "we love our team" mantra. I don't think championship teams do this. Hope I'm wrong.

It's a blessing in disguise if it turns out to be a rude wake-up call to the front office.

Bookit · 02-10-2008, 10:13 PM

You have to love blessing in disguises.

MavsX · 02-10-2008, 10:52 PM

this game tonight was pathetic...at least we were up by 11 in the 2nd..and the jesus H christ..the team decides to punt and bam..we suck.

i hope the front office wakes up and does something!

also, what the F is up with avery using a timeout at 40 seconds into the game.! god i am sick of the general!

and play dirk at the 4

Dim499 · 02-10-2008, 11:02 PM

Remeber when Dirk used to make open 3s?

He's averaging 7% in February (5 games)

Locked_Up_Tonight · 02-10-2008, 11:08 PM

He still makes 3s at home.

Five-ofan · 02-10-2008, 11:08 PM

the problem with bass is that while he has been decent this year, hes bad for the team in the role we are currently using him. If he is playing with dirk, its terrible because you dont move your superstar 4 to the 5 in order to make room for your semi-decent backup pf and if we play him as dirks backup, the mavs are just awful offensively with him and either diop or dampier on the court. he only helps us when we play the warriors and i think hell help with the suns now but thats it.

FINtastic · 02-10-2008, 11:13 PM

That's the thing that sucks about the Bass signing. He's a nice player and you want to use him, but he plays the same position as Dirk, and you can't really get away with playing him alongside Dirk.

Dim499 · 02-10-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsX

also, what the F is up with avery using a timeout at 40 seconds into the game.! god i am sick of the general!

Avery has been known to call early timeouts.

BGMaverick9 · 02-10-2008, 11:46 PM

It was weird watching this game because they were up and then all of the sudden it seemed like they got their bell rung. What exactly is the problem with this team on the road?

This team can not stay healthy for the life of them right now.

I know people can overreact after a loss, but this team is just not there yet. After the All-Star Break you have to start getting in gear. The West is stacked like crazy and you can't afford not to bring your A-game.

Caseman · 02-10-2008, 11:50 PM

Like I said in the game thread:

"Man, does anyone remember how last season felt so good. Just knowing, every game the Mavericks played, the opponents would have to beat them because they weren't going to beat themselves. Now, watching this year's games, I have to idly witness the Mavericks clank one shot after another after another, until they blow a 11 point lead and then lose by 20. That's 30 freaking points differential! That's college numbers, not an NBA game!

The problem is, some nights they move the ball and their feet well, and other times they don't seem motivated. They think they are better than everyone else and don't try when they face the Nets, when they face the Clippers, when they face the Kings. They take each team for granted and play as so.

And when the shots don't drop, they will never drop. Two miss shots turn to four miss shots, four to eight, eight to sixteen. Once they are off their groove, they rarely can find it again. It's strange that a team that carries so much arrogance from last season also have zero confidence when they are behind.

Avery, Dirk, somebody, needs to talk to this team and humble their game and teach them some freaking discipline at away games."

twelli · 02-11-2008, 04:32 AM

Dirk played well in the first quarter. Then he sat until 5 minutes left in the second, which is understandable, because the Mavs played well without him and considering the schedule this week. Giving him rest worked well against Memphis, but not this time. The Nets focused their defense on him once he came back, and when he passed to open teammates, they didn't make their shots. It was kind of contagious. In the end no one seemed to shoot well. The Nets on the other hand had some lucky bounces and fed off Carter coming back after being knocked down by Bass. Just one of those games where everything went to other way. Philly will be totally different.

When Jones missed a three from the corner, I thought, the reason we acquired him is to hit those damn shots. Disappointing effort.

Barea is not really that reliable.

Howard is so average sometimes... same goes for Terry.

Bass had actually some nice plays.

Avery calling a timeout in the first minute of the game is not a good sign...

left texas · 02-11-2008, 05:15 AM

How is it we were up double digits playing Damp and Diop and then it's to remember seeing either one on the floor again?

Thespiralgoeson · 02-11-2008, 05:21 AM

I am really not optimistic about our chances this year. This team just plays flat out horribly on the road. I only hope to god that the organization makes a big trade within the next 9 days that will galvanize the team.

Locked_Up_Tonight · 02-11-2008, 06:53 AM

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I am really not optimistic about our chances this year. This team just plays flat out horribly on the road. I only hope to god that the organization makes a big trade within the next 9 days that will galvanize the team.

Who is optimistic? Good teams win on the road. And gone are the days of the Mavs making a trade. Last year what did they do? They sent away Anthony Johnson for a second round pick. Way to upgrade talent!

dude1394 · 02-11-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim499

Remeber when Dirk used to make open 3s?

He's averaging 7% in February (5 games)

It is a real problem isn't it. His threes have been wide-stinkin open as well. Sheesh...Holger, where are you? I guess holgers in the weight room as well. Maybe it will take dirk all season to get used to being so massive.

horse900703 · 02-11-2008, 09:21 AM

Bad game!!!!

MavsX · 02-11-2008, 11:48 AM

well, when we get knocked out of the playoffs this year..it will come as no surprise to all of us.

then maybe we can make some deals, enough of this, "i like our team" bull$hit

Underdog · 02-11-2008, 05:10 PM