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DGM · 07-04-2015, 01:01 PM

I would like to see him back. He was a good backup for Dirk last year.

Underdog · 07-04-2015, 01:07 PM

Sounds like the Mavs are trying to bring him back...

BPo001 · 07-04-2015, 01:09 PM

I would like to see him back. Accepted his role on the team last year, worked hard to earn a spot on the roster, and brought the ability to score in bunches. Seemed to mesh well with the locker room. I'm sure he will be back.

bunkmoreland · 07-04-2015, 01:24 PM

A fan favorite for sure. The AAC just explodes when he hits a 3.
And he seems like a genuinely good person.
I would love to have him back.

ocelot_ark · 07-04-2015, 01:32 PM

So easy to root for the guy.

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Bryan_Wilson · 07-04-2015, 02:18 PM

With his height and that quick release combined he's really fun to root for.

NeedlesKane · 07-04-2015, 04:37 PM

Just bring both Charlie V and Amar'e back. And get Jeremy Lin and J.J. That'll make me insanely happy. Also I think we'll still have two open roster spots after all of that.

rimrocker · 07-04-2015, 05:27 PM

Love Charlie but we need more defense at PF imo.
We need to find Aminu's replacement.
Sign Charlie but lets find a 3/4 or 4/5 defender too somehow.

Any interest in 35yo Tayshawn Prince?

Bryan_Wilson · 07-04-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Love Charlie but we need more defense at PF imo.
We need to find Aminu's replacement.
Sign Charlie but lets find a 3/4 or 4/5 defender too somehow.

Any interest in 35yo Tayshawn Prince?

If you want Aminu replacement Jeremy Evans is more like Aminu than Prince.

rimrocker · 07-04-2015, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

If you want Aminu replacement Jeremy Evans is more like Aminu than Prince.

But can we sign him for vet min?

Bryan_Wilson · 07-04-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

But can we sign him for vet min?

He fell out of rotation last year I believe judging by the fact he went from 18mpg to 7mpg this last year. If he got over vet min I'd be stunned.

rimrocker · 07-04-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

He fell out of rotation last year I believe judging by the fact he went from 18mpg to 7mpg this last year. If he got over vet min I'd be stunned.

That's the type of player we need.
Not sure he can guard athletic PFs and big SFs but guys like Griffin, Durant, Davis and some others concern the hell out of me unless we find Aminu's replacement.
Hell, we should talk Marion out of retirement

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2015, 08:17 PM

Bring him back

DGM · 07-06-2015, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

If you want Aminu replacement Jeremy Evans is more like Aminu than Prince.

Props, you called it.

BPo001 · 07-06-2015, 10:30 AM

Tim MacMahon: Shooter Charlie Villanueva is a good bet to re-sign for minimum to be a Mavs bench weapon again.

NeedlesKane · 07-06-2015, 06:36 PM

Can we not sign him for more than the minimum? I am wondering what the rule is here since he was a member of the team last year. Did we lose any rights we had to him when we pursued guys like Wesley Matthews and DeAndre Jordan?

Kidd Karma · 07-06-2015, 07:01 PM

Sure, why not, what's left....who'd work on a vet minimum.

DavidDaMonkey · 07-07-2015, 01:26 PM

Sounds like this is a done deal @ vet min

http://charlievillanueva.sportsblog....to-dallas.html

purplefrog · 07-07-2015, 01:28 PM

"Good news Dallas fans! I'm ecstatic to announce that I will be returning back to a Mavericks uniform this upcoming season. My agent, Jeff Schwartz, just called me like literally 2 hours ago. We've been going back and forth on calls...he's been making calls to negotiate the best scenario for me. We were all waiting for a few more dominos to fall before I sign anything. I know Dallas was always in the mix and I really wanted it to work out, which I'm thankful it sure did. We've come to terms and I'm returning back to Dallas. It's only right. Since Day 1 the organization has welcomed me and my family with open arms. I felt an immediate brotherhood with my teammates. I have nothing but respect for Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson. Those guys operate a first-class organization. They've been straight up with me and that's something that I value a lot...communication. And Coach Carlisle, what can I say about a man that wants to see the best in me and most importantly that BELIEVES in me. I thank you Coach. I don't see myself anywhere else. I love Dallas and I'm coming back."

Charlie Villanueva Official Blog
http://charlievillanueva.sportsblog....to-dallas.html

spreedom · 07-07-2015, 01:39 PM

I want to say first of all, full disclosure, I was vehemently opposed to guaranteeing Charlie's training camp deal last fall. I felt like keeping Sarge was a much more reasonable option. And I was 100% wrong... and very glad about it.

Bringing in a guy that can heat up like Charlie V at the veteran's minimum is a no-brainer... I hope he earns a more consistent role this season (and that our roster in general has less turnover than we've been used to these past few years). I do wonder if he is really a full-time solution as a backup PF, but I think having DAJ at center makes it as easy as possible for that to really work. I expect Charlie and Powell to have a pretty good duel for backup minutes at the four during the preseason and into the regular season, and with Charlie's experience and ability to, frankly, carry second units for stretches, I think he'll pull ahead.

tl;dr -- good

Underdog · 07-07-2015, 01:58 PM

Welcome back, Charlie V.

EricaLubarsky · 07-07-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Bring him back

Good

bunkmoreland · 07-07-2015, 02:06 PM

Good news. Jeremy Evans can be Dirk's backup when we need a banger. And Charlie Buckets can come in to hit 3s and get the crowd in the game.

rimrocker · 07-07-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I want to say first of all, full disclosure, I was vehemently opposed to guaranteeing Charlie's training camp deal last fall. I felt like keeping Sarge was a much more reasonable option. And I was 100% wrong... and very glad about it.

tl;dr -- good

Takes a classy person to admit they're wrong about something.
Don't consider myself a classy person but I'm the one that said Greg Smith would be our best off-season acquisition last season.
Feel like an idiot for saying it now.

I have a feeling CV will have a bigger role this season unless Evans and Powell take huge steps forward.

Twenty4sevenn · 07-07-2015, 02:52 PM

Besides his ability to reign threes at a moment's notice, Charlie seems like a great guy who everyone seems to love. From fans, to players, to coaches. I'm glad that they're bringing him back. Definitely the kind of guy you want in the locker room.

NeedlesKane · 07-07-2015, 03:44 PM

I love how the front office is actually bringing back players from last season's squad. Now if we can only sign Bernard James and Amar'e Stoudemire.

quietsavant · 07-07-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I want to say first of all, full disclosure, I was vehemently opposed to guaranteeing Charlie's training camp deal last fall. I felt like keeping Sarge was a much more reasonable option. And I was 100% wrong... and very glad about it.

Bringing in a guy that can heat up like Charlie V at the veteran's minimum is a no-brainer... I hope he earns a more consistent role this season (and that our roster in general has less turnover than we've been used to these past few years). I do wonder if he is really a full-time solution as a backup PF, but I think having DAJ at center makes it as easy as possible for that to really work. I expect Charlie and Powell to have a pretty good duel for backup minutes at the four during the preseason and into the regular season, and with Charlie's experience and ability to, frankly, carry second units for stretches, I think he'll pull ahead.

tl;dr -- good

I love this. Love the fact that you are gracious enough to admit this. Must spread Rep..... I went back to look at the thread last year, and you weren't the only Charlie V hater, though Villanueva's a turd that will almost certainly get flushed before the start of the regular season. was pretty classic! Love his positive attitude. Love his stay ready mentality. I am completely convinced that Earl K Sneed had "Charlie V checks in, Charlie V nails a Three" copied and ready to paste on his tweets every game. The guy just came in and threw flamethrowers. His weakness is obviously D in the post for a big. Hoping playing along side DJ and hopefully another Athletic Backup Center not name greg smith or Bernard James will help that. Bottom line, we were exposed against the rockets during playoffs. They were more athletic, from josh smith to corey brewer to Clint to terence jones. We need athletic bigs. DJ is a good start but he won't play 48 mins. Gove me another monster down low. Go get reggie evans. No offense to bernard james but I want a banger... and yes this is a rant. Haven't posted in close to a year

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-07-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

"Good news Dallas fans! I'm ecstatic to announce that I will be returning back to a Mavericks uniform this upcoming season. My agent, Jeff Schwartz, just called me like literally 2 hours ago. We've been going back and forth on calls...he's been making calls to negotiate the best scenario for me. We were all waiting for a few more dominos to fall before I sign anything. I know Dallas was always in the mix and I really wanted it to work out, which I'm thankful it sure did. We've come to terms and I'm returning back to Dallas. It's only right. Since Day 1 the organization has welcomed me and my family with open arms. I felt an immediate brotherhood with my teammates. I have nothing but respect for Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson. Those guys operate a first-class organization. They've been straight up with me and that's something that I value a lot...communication. And Coach Carlisle, what can I say about a man that wants to see the best in me and most importantly that BELIEVES in me. I thank you Coach. I don't see myself anywhere else. I love Dallas and I'm coming back."

Charlie Villanueva Official Blog
http://charlievillanueva.sportsblog....to-dallas.html

Wow. Class act.

I think Charlie V will get a lot of minutes at the beginning of the season if Parsons is still recovering.

BPo001 · 07-07-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

Good news. Jeremy Evans can be Dirk's backup when we need a banger. And Charlie Buckets can come in to hit 3s and get the crowd in the game.

Evans is 6'9 200 lbs. He isn't going to bang with anyone.

DGM · 07-07-2015, 06:52 PM

Charlie can play plus he's a class guy. All I needed to hear was one Charlie interview and I became a fan. He meets with kids with alopecia (hair loss disease) in each city that the Mavs visit. Not many NBA players make that kind of time commitment to help other people

jay3189 · 07-07-2015, 07:41 PM

Charlie isn't bad. But Dallas NEEDS a backup center. Dallas needs to think about filling each position first.

mac222b · 07-07-2015, 07:48 PM

Happy to have Charlie V.back

NeedlesKane · 07-07-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jay3189

Charlie isn't bad. But Dallas NEEDS a backup center. Dallas needs to think about filling each position first.

Why? They have more roster spots available and can only offer the veteran's minimum regardless. Charlie Villanueva is a nice piece. It's a very good thing to have multiple backups for Dirk, and it wouldn't be such a bad thing for Dirk to play backup center to Jordan as some of our best offensive outputs at Center have come from him. He flourished as recently as last season. Of course I'd enjoy another one who can play defense, and I would be surprised if we can do any better than Sarge.

rimrocker · 07-07-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Why? They have more roster spots available and can only offer the veteran's minimum regardless. Charlie Villanueva is a nice piece. It's a very good thing to have multiple backups for Dirk, and it wouldn't be such a bad thing for Dirk to play backup center to Jordan as some of our best offensive outputs at Center have come from him. He flourished as recently as last season. Of course I'd enjoy another one who can play defense, and I would be surprised if we can do any better than Sarge.

I only want Dirk playing Center if Jordan is playing PF

We have to get a big body incase Jordan goes down or gets in early foul trouble.
6'10" 240lbs min and a true defensive oriented center.
Please no Boozer, Amare, Hansbrough, Arthur, Hayes, etc... playing backup center.

rimrocker · 07-07-2015, 11:59 PM

Looks like Mavs have some interest in Kevin Seraphin.
Anybody know anything about him?
He is big 6'10" 280lbs.
Sounds like another Greg Smith.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-free-agent-pf

mac222b · 07-08-2015, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Looks like Mavs have some interest in Kevin Seraphin.
Any anybody know anything about him?
He is big 6'10" 280lbs.
Sounds like another Greg Smith.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-free-agent-pf

He isn't anything like Smith really. He has a really nice back to the basket game almost in an old school James Edwards sort of way. But he loves to shoot a little too much and doesn't really do anything else well. Black hole. Would bring some of what Amare did to the 2nd unit. Seems he would go for maybe a bit more than minimum? Maybe not...

mac222b · 07-08-2015, 12:06 AM

Would be all over Hansbrough if he is available for the min.

tap2390 · 07-08-2015, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

I only want Dirk playing Center if Jordan is playing PF

We have to get a big body incase Jordan goes down or gets in early foul trouble.
6'10" 240lbs min and a true defensive oriented center.
Please no Boozer, Amare, Hansbrough, Arthur, Hayes, etc... playing backup center.

Arthur is actually perfectly built for the direction the NBA is headed. He's athletic and strong and one of the best pick-and-roll defenders in the entire league. We couldn't afford him if we wanted to.

Edit: Just realized Arthur is a Dallas native. Hometown discount? Or maybe work out a sign and trade.

Twenty4sevenn · 07-08-2015, 08:03 AM

No thanks on Seraphin. I vividly remember him looking completely lost and/or getting dunked on every time I watched the Wizards play last year.

jay3189 · 07-08-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Why? They have more roster spots available and can only offer the veteran's minimum regardless. Charlie Villanueva is a nice piece. It's a very good thing to have multiple backups for Dirk, and it wouldn't be such a bad thing for Dirk to play backup center to Jordan as some of our best offensive outputs at Center have come from him. He flourished as recently as last season. Of course I'd enjoy another one who can play defense, and I would be surprised if we can do any better than Sarge.

Like I said before, Charlie isn't bad. But Dallas needs defense with their big men. Deandre is the only scary post defender Mavericks got. When Dallas won the championship in 2011, besides Tyson, they also had Brendan Haywood and Ian Mahinmi to come off the bench and defend. When Miami won their championships, they had Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem, and Chris Anderson. Pistons in the mid to late 2000's had Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, and Antonio McDyess. Having multiple big men defenders on your team really helps.