Will Josh Howard be traded this off-season?

[DOMINATOR]

simple question yes or no.

[wmbwinn]

coaches, owners, scouts, and others who understand the game all place a high value on Josh Howard. I don't expect a trade. Anything is possible. If he is traded, he will bring quality back. He won't be traded for a non-allstar or a non-near allstar.

[Burn this City]

I wish they could get rid of him tomorrow...

[birdsanctuary]

Howard is gone... Not a doubt in my mind...

and good riddance... pothead!

[Stranger]

With his poor production of late and drug comments, his value may be at an all-time low. If the Mavs decide to move him, I think they should at least wait until the trade deadline to try to improve his value.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Here's hoping.

[BGMaverick9]

I don't really think his value is as high as you put it, wmbwinn.

He will get some value back, but not the value it could've been last year or the early part of this year.

Will he get traded, 50/50...do I hope he does? 100% yes

[RonMexico]

I haven't kept up with him this year but is he really playing as heartless as everyone says? Last season he was allas' best player (Not to mention toughest)and it appeared at least to me Dirk needed to go for a more assertive big.

[BGMaverick9]

I think my question would be, what are you hoping to get in return?

[cinemablend]

Bad time to trade him. You won't get value.

[alby]

It's similar to the situation with JET last summer. He was expendable after the GS series and I'm sure we listened to some trade offers, but his value was below market.

I want Josh Howard to be traded but I highly doubt it would happen unless it's packaged for a bona-fide #1/2 option in the NBA, since he is now our only "young" asset outside of Bass.

The scary thing about the whole matter is that under the right coach, Josh Howard may explode to become very good.

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

If there's any truth to us turning down Kobe for Harris/Howard Cuban should fire himself.

[Underdog]

There's a big difference between "will he" and "should he"...

Yes, he should be traded, but no, he won't be traded...

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

We should be able to get Ron Artest for him. Weed smoker for spouse abusing lunatic seems like a win for Sacremento. But suddenly the Kings fell in love with Artest apparently and don't want to trade him.

[MavsX]

i think he will be back next year. With a new coach, a new game plan and new motivation.

[Dirkenstien]

I think he will be traded but considering his stock is so low right now Cuban will probably either wait until the trade deadline next season or use him to bring in a high risk/reward type of player like Jermaine O'Neal or as someon mentioned Ron Artest.

[dirk2003]

We will try but wont get enough value back so he will be here next season.

I think he talked about how he loves weed just so that he becomes untradeable and stays in Dallas.

..nevermind he is not that clever.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dirk2003

I think he talked about how he loves weed just so that he becomes untradeable and stays in Dallas.

Funny - a friend of mine was joking about that during the game...

[alby]

Brandon Bass + Josh Howard for Michael Redd.

Do it, and do it now. even do it in the middle of a playoff series.

Kidd Redd SF Dirk Damp (Terry, Wright, C)

Then sign an athletic SF and/or C with the MLE

Kidd Redd Pietrus Dirk Damp (Terry, Wright, Diop)

[ghazi]

can that team even contend, though?

[alby]

Redd as our legitmate #2? hell yes.

[ghazi]

does bass/howard for redd work as far as salaries?

[ghazi]

i want maggette and miller!!!1

[alby]

Miller would be great because hes a legitimate shooter to team up with Dirk/Kidd/Damp
I've always been enamoured with Maggette and if you go through my posts, I've always wanted us to go after him, but I can just see teams collapsing the paint like they are right now and daring our non shooters to shoot from the outside. This is why a lineup of Kidd/Terry/Howard/Bass/Dirk doesn't work because Avery makes Dirk play inside and Kidd/Howard/Bass can not shoot.

This is why I want Redd or Miller.

[alby]

Originally Posted by ghazi

does bass/howard for redd work as far as salaries?

unfortunately, no.
Redd makes 14.5 million dollars

Currently, our only tradeable players are
JJB, Bass, Dampier, Howard, Kidd, Dirk, Stackhouse, Terry

since these players are not under contract
Malik, Devean, Juwan, Eddie, Lue, Magloire, Antoine

[Robillion]

could they be tradeable this summer after re-signing them? or if we re sign them would it have to wait till next season?

[alby]

we can execute sign and trades, yes.

[SeattleMavsFan]

I doubt Josh will be traded. he may be shopped but like with JET, he will end up staying. We have seen that Josh can be downright unstoppable but I believe that he is more tired of Avery than anybody on the team and he has no motivation. We better get a new coach next year and hopefully Josh will play. I'd hate to trade a low value Josh for someone crappy and then he explodes on another team with a good coach. We already lost Harris for that, don't need to lose Josh as well.

[alby]

Harris hasn't exploded. He started off well right after the trade, but check out his numbers (and minutes for that matter) towards the end of the season. 16/7 in March with 36 minutes a game. 13/6 in April with 30 minutes a game.

I think Josh is tired of Avery but I also think it's because of how Josh reacted to losing his friend Devin. He has a hall of fame, bonafide point guard passing him the ball but it felt like he never gave Kidd a chance (same with Avery).

[Lor20]

bass is the only one of our players with an ok income/performance ratio other than maybe dirk. please lets not trade him. lets find a team that wants to give us a gift like memphis did with the lakers :-P

[ShaggyDirk]

the argument of "trade value" is futile. If he had trade value, we wouldn't be trading him.

[alby]

couldn't agree more.

but, sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on. josh howard has been fun to watch, seeing him grow into the player he's become today (drastically decreased in defensive efficiency). but, when that time is up--its up. there's no point to keeping an employee longer than needed.

[ShaggyDirk]

Yeah, I didn't mean keep him, I just meant it doesn't matter what we get for him now because I want him off our team for good.

[Flacolaco]

non-public polls shouldn't even be allowed at all.

[pepe]

I am not as pessimist as others about the future of the Mavs, we dont have that many players under contract and the only contracts that I consider to be overrated are Stack (now that one will be difficult to dealt) Damp (and for a Quality Center in the NBA his contract is not that bad, just long) and Terry (and for what he brings to the table his salary is not unrealistic, is the lenght that scares team)

The're plenty of bad contracts in the NBA, Hughes, Wallace, K-MART, Nene, Murphy, Mark Blount, Simmons, Antoine Walker, The entire Knicks team, Miles, Miller Brad, Abdur Rahim, Kenny Thomas and not to mention Vince Carter, Kirilenko and Shaq.

So yes the Management did make some bonehead moves ala Stack, but we can live with the Terry and Dampier contract if they continue to contribute at the present clip.

Now the JHO and Kidd contract are extremely attractive for other franchises specially for those on the rebuilding stage or looking to dump salary.

My wishing list is:

1. And I hate to said a new coach and not because I don't believe that Avery can improve as a coach but this team has all the talesigns of a team that quit listening to him and not longer believed in the so called "system"
2. A more offensive minded Center, Jermaine O'Neal comes to mind
3. Young and athletic wingplayers, nothing spectacular Pietrus, Wright and Reyshawn Terrry will do for now
4. A 3point specialist, ala James Jones (of course Sasha Vulacic, JR Smith or Matt Carrol would be great but thats a pipedream)
5.If somehow we could dealt Damp, a defensive back up Center will be ideal ..I know the perfect candidate...Diop
6.a big shooting guard and Corey Maggete, Michael Reed or JR Smith (again) will be the ideal candidates.

I know that it will be extremely difficult if not impossible to land O'Neal and either Maggete or Reed so pick your poison, Josh is our more valuable trading chip (the guy is just one year remove from been an all-star and has improve his production every year and the weed stuff is a not issue, heck Carmelo was caught with an ounce in a airport)

Scenario 1. I will package JHO with Damp to the nuggets for Camby and a resigned JR Smith

Guys like Jones/Pietrus and Diop can be signed with the MLE or the league minimun

A Depth Chart of

PG Kidd/Terry/Lue
SG JR Smith/Terry/Stack
SF Pietrus/Wright/Reyshawn
PF Dirk/Bass
C Camby/Diop

Is young athletic, our 3 point shooting, energy and defense will improve, JR Smith and Pietrus should improve dramatically with JKidd and Wright/Reyshawn could become our defensive stoppers.

Scenario 2, JHO and Stack to the Bulls for Deng and Larry Hughes, put some spares in the trade to make it work.

PG Kidd/Terry/Lue
SG Hughes/Terry/Wright
SF Deng/Wright/James Jones
PF Dirk/Bass
C Dampier/Diop

This is just a trade that is trying to replace JHO production with a player with a lot similarities and a better IQ (Deng) and taking on Larry Hughes sizeable contract is a gamble but so do is expecting Stack to even contribute and half the rate of Hughes who is superior defender.

Scenario 3...JHO and Damp to Indiana for Jermaine O'Neal, In this case the Pacers might be more interested in Terry that in JHO, because they already have a young stud in Granger, but anyway it could work in a 3 way trade.

PG Kidd/Terry/Lue
SG Wright/Terry/Stack
SF Pietrus/Bass/Reyshawn
PF Dirk/Bass
C O'Neal/Diop/Magliore

A Healthy O'Neal will be a great addition to the MAVS and Dirk might as well lead the league in scoring

Scenario 4

JHO and Stack to the Bucks for Reed and Charlie Bell, I dont know if this deal will work salaries wise, but with a little tweaking I am sure is a go.

Kidd/Bell/Terry
Reed/Terry/Wright
Pietrus/Bass/Wright
Dirk/Bass
Dampier/Diop

Reed and Dirk oh man thats scary, and if Terry can somehow find 24-30 minutes in the floor. the offense should be clicking is the defense that might be a concern.

Well this is just some of the shake ups that I would like to see in the offseason and BTW I still hope that the MAVS somehow could put 3 straight againts the Hornets...wishfull thinking perhaps, but I am a fan first!!

[alby]

I was confused for about two seconds after reading your scenarios and seeing Reed, but I'm going to assume you mean Redd. I'm a huge backer in getting Redd to Dallas. And if it means losing Josh/Stack but keeping Bass? I'd do it in a second.

[rmacomic]

Originally Posted by pepe

Well this is just some of the shake ups that I would like to see in the offseason and BTW I still hope that the MAVS somehow could put 3 straight againts the Hornets...wishfull thinking perhaps, but I am a fan first!!

Have to appreciate that!

[Robillion]

I like all of those scenarios pretty much... though Id like to see something that would make sense to get Maggette here. After Terry playing fairly well towards the end of the season and during this series, I hope we revisit the deal with the Clippers. .. Now throughout the season I have been a proponent of dealing Terry, but I have seen his value and if we can pick up a true 2 guard then I am all for keeping him coming off the bench. But If we had a sharpshooter like Redd and were somewhat weak at the 3 spot after dealing J-Ho for him... then omg I would love Maggete here. I lineup like Kidd, Redd, Maggette, Dirk, Damp/Diop would be fantastic... and a pipe-dream :/ but Ive seen crazier things go down. So .. Go for it Cubes! heh

[horse900703]

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!
JOSH,SOOOOOOO BAD.....

[bobatundi]

What about Josh + S&T filler + cash for Diaw & Barbosa? Suns always need cash, and this lets them get out from under two long contracts. We give them back the minimum dollars we have to to make the trade work (can't figure it out right now because of BYC and because I have tired head). Also gives them the starting SF that ESPN's experts seem to think they need. Mavs get the speed & offense they need in the backcourt--and our next starting PG when Kidd retires (or we turn his expiring deal into someone good at the 2, 3 or 5), and Diaw backs up Dirk at 4 and Bass at 3 (yes, I'm starting Brandon Bass at the 3 next year).