Boozer versus our own...

[V]

We haven't had much discussion about the Boozer situation ... even in the Around the NBA section. Highly charged situation. Latest word from ESPN.com has it that Pelinka resigned as Boozer's agent. In the wake of the controversy, a number of agents have claimed that they would resign if their client reneged on a verbal commitment.

"I'd resign immediately if a client wanted to renege on a deal, even a verbal one," one agent told Ford last week. "I still believe integrity in this business matters. If you agree on a deal, you have to live with, no matter what else happens. I personally believe that Boozer and his agent miscalculated a bit here. But I also understand what they did. Players want security. The Cavs can offer that. It just means he has to take less money to get it now. It's a tradeoff."

According to sources, SFX and Pelinka grew increasingly concerned in the aftermath of the agreement that Boozer's betrayal would sully the reputation of the agency and prevent them from conducting good faith negotiations with league owners in the future.

All this over a young second round draft pick who had a good year...

Here's why it's relevant to the General Mavs Discussion. Anyone who heard Norm earlier today got an earfull about how Utah has passed the Mavs in talent. Among other things Norm noted that Boozer is an "AMAAAZING TALENT!" ... and players don't "luck into 11 pt / 11 board seasons." He also cited some stats about how Garnett, Duncan, and Dampier were the only 11/11 guys in the league last year.

Here's what I find interesting. Compare these two stat lines:

Player A 01-02 in 77 games averaging 28.8 minutes per contest

FG 4.0-9.4
FG% .428
TO 0.7
OFF 3.8
DEF 7.9
TOT 11.7
AST 1.6
PTS 11.2

Player B in 34.6 minutes per contest

FG 6.3-12.0
FG% .523
TO 1.8
OFF 3.1
DEF 8.4
TOT 11.4
AST 2.0
PTS 15.5

Player A is equally efficient offensively, has fewer turnovers; he has more rebounds (and is a better offensive rebounder); he's close in assists and blocks ...

One might even argue that this is the SAME player in different seasons....




No, my friend. No.

Player B is Carlos Boozer.

Player A is our own Danny Fortson.

[aexchange]

norm is an idiot at times. he was also the same guy who proclaimed chutch as the savior of the cowboys and that bradley was going to revolutionize the nba.

sometimes i wish i was hearing impaired when listening to him.

[jayC]

To be fair a lot of commentators in the area were proclaiming Hutch the starter last offseason.

[Joey]

It would be cool to have the last name of Boozer. It would be cool to have the first name of Norm. What about Norm Boozer. Hmm...Fortson is a strong last name. Dirk is a strong first name. What bout Dirk Fortson. What do you think about the name Hitzgis? Is that even spelled correctly? I think I just wasted mine and your time.

[jayC]

???

I hate 48 per minute stats. Their is a reason Fortson didn't play 34 minutes a game he has no game. Your comparison is apples and oranges. You can't compare 34 minute stats to per minute stats.

And I was defending Norm, Joey, by impling that a lot of DFW commentators had Chad Hutchinson pegged as the starter of the Dallas Cowboys.

[uberfan]

Jayc: I am reading Vs post differently than you are apparently. He shows what player A (Fortson) did in 28.8 minutes a game in the 2001-2002 season with GS vs. Player B (Boozer) did last year playing 34.6 minutes a game.

I think it is a valid argument.

[V]

Uberfan is right

[Murphy3]

Boozer plays defense.
Fortson doesn't.

[uberfan]

Originally posted by: Murphy3
Boozer plays defense.
Fortson doesn't.

Tell Elton Brand that

[NBAGnome]

how is 42% and 52% equally efficient offensively?

[V]

FG% is not an indicator of offensive efficiency.

Check out points per shot. Boozer was slightly better ... but not by much.

There are better stats for this but I don't feel like looking them up.

[grndmstr_c]

It's actually not close. Boozer was far more efficient last year than Danny was in 01/02 (56.7% true shooting vs. 50.4%). In all fairness to Danny, though, he was ridiculously efficient in limited minutes last year for the Mavs (60.5% true shooting).

[basketball jonessss]

Originally posted by: Murphy3
Boozer plays defense.
Fortson doesn't.

All the players like Boozer, Brand, Rose, Brad Miller etc. Fortson stops all that 20 points 20 rebound crap. This guy needs minutes.

[Murphy3]

Originally posted by: basketball jonessss

All the players like Boozer, Brand, Rose, Brad Miller etc. Fortson stops all that 20 points 20 rebound crap. This guy needs minutes.

Fortson is the interior defensie equivalent to Steve Nash on the outside.

[aexchange]

Originally posted by: basketball jonessss

All the players like Boozer, Brand, Rose, Brad Miller etc. Fortson stops all that 20 points 20 rebound crap. This guy needs minutes.

he stops all the 20/20 stuff, but he'll probably give up 30/15 instead. what's worse?

[grndmstr_c]

he stops all the 20/20 stuff, but he'll probably give up 30/15 instead. what's worse?

Not really true. Fort is a great matchup against a limited subset of bigs in the league and a horrible matchup against most of the rest.