Mavs not happy with Terry

[AxdemxO]

On ESPN today Rick reported that Johnson is not happy with Terry running the point.
He said that the Mavs might be lookin to move Terry and if they dont that it doesnt look like they will re sign him this summer.

I really like Terry and hope we re sign him.
And if we do move him what can we get back. I would thin that we will be looking for another point guard becasue as good as Harris has been i dont think he will be ready to lead us throughout the playoffs.

[Drbio]

WTF? This is counter to everything I have read to date. Do you have a link?

[AxdemxO]

No i was just listenin to him on ESPN Coast to Coast and i was vey shocked too because i thought that Terry was doing good and that we would keep him.

[Drbio]

I didn't see anything on ESPN.com or insider. That is odd. Maybe this guy pulled that one oout of his butt?

[AxdemxO]

Maybe idk. they started the conversation by saying how dallas is tied with SA for best record in the West and then one of ythem asked Rick about Terry situation and Rick went on to say that.

[alby]

I watched it on ESPN Coast to Coast as well

[kg_veteran]

This is coming from Ric Bucher, who knows about as much about the Mavericks as I do about Mongolian politics.

[AxdemxO]

Well i hope its not true.But even if its a rumor it could effect the team in a negative way.

[capitalcity]

fab·ri·cate (fbr-kt)
tr.v. fab·ri·cat·ed, fab·ri·cat·ing, fab·ri·cates

1. To make; create.
2. To construct by combining or assembling diverse, typically standardized parts: fabricate small boats.
3. To concoct in order to deceive: fabricated an excuse.

[foglemann]

I hope this is true. Avery must realize that Terry is our worst defender and if he's gonna harp on everyone about their defense, Terry needs to get it more than anyone. Our team wouldn't hurt by better defense from the PG spot. Terry is a nice person and player, but other than that, I'm not a huge fan. I don't know who we could get for him, but guys like Brevin Knight, Mike James and Sam Cassell could do the job Terry is doing just as good or better.

[dude1394]

Defense was a point that bucher(sp?) was making.

[dude1394]

If he isn't resigned I just want a shooter unless somehow daniels/josh develop into one, but I seriously doubt it.

And devin has shown me nothing from outside this year. What is it with that little leg kick at the end of his jumpshot anyway? Has he always done that, I've never recalled anyone doing that who was consistent.

[chumdawg]

Honestly, Terry doesn't bring anything to the Mavs that Mike Finley didn't--and to some he may bring less.

We all know how quickly Finley was shown the door. These comments do not surprise me. Yes, I do value Terry's clutch long-distance shooting. But the guy doesn't get to the basket and he doesn't play defense. That ain't how Avery draws it up.

[sike]

this is pure bunk until proven otherwise....

[Jet Terry]

Originally Posted by foglemann

I hope this is true. Avery must realize that Terry is our worst defender and if he's gonna harp on everyone about their defense, Terry needs to get it more than anyone. Our team wouldn't hurt by better defense from the PG spot. Terry is a nice person and player, but other than that, I'm not a huge fan. I don't know who we could get for him, but guys like Brevin Knight, Mike James and Sam Cassell could do the job Terry is doing just as good or better.

You want to ruin this team? Terry is our 3rd best player. You don't know anything about basketball!!! Dallas would get killed by zone defense if we lose Terry.

[bonitaapplebum]

I know that I am pretty new here, but I know enough to say that anyone who mentions defense in the first part of their post and Sam Cassell in the second should re-read a little . . .
I am chiming in here because this thread goes straight to something I have thought about a lot lately: We have 2 6th men on the roster. Stack and Jet both serve the same purpose--they are best served victimizing others' benches and play defense that any opposing guard or forward would be able to victimize (at least, as far as good teams are concerned).
More than KVH/KVB (who I would like to expire so that we return to something closer to financial flexibility--we have to start somewhere), I would like the Mavs to trade Stack or Terry (honestly, take your pick) for a youngish guard who can defend small guys. It would be nice if he could pass. I am at a loss, though, for names; any ideas? I thought Devin was the guy, but he just doesn't impress me with his one-on-one defense.

[ddh33]

I'm not surprised that Terry's name came up. It was just a matter of time - whether this is legit or not.

If the Mavs have put him in play, I am convinced that it is only because the trade deadline is a couple of weeks away, and the Mavs are puuting the biggest chip they will part with on the table. If he brings you something you like, you can move him. If not, keep what you have. This is just simple NBA business.

[alby]

Terry handles the ball which is huge... if you forgot the Finley days, that was one of our biggest weaknessess IMO

Anyways, I hope we re-sign Jason The Jet Terry to around 6-7 mill a year.

[MrCheerios]

I trust AJ. If he's got problems with Terry running the point, then I agree with him. We all love Terry, but let's not pretend that he's faultless. His defense is a liability to the mavs, as is his lack of playmaking abilities. His best asset (a huge one) is that he can shoot and score. Devin trumps him in all other categories. Benching Damp turned out for the best. Why not try the same with Terry?

[G-Man]

As much as I love Jet, he almost cost us the Portland game with his hrrible defense, giving up 3 or 4 3 point shots because he couldn't get over a pick at the end of the game. The offense stagnated into bad outside jumps shots as well. 1 soultion is to trade him. Another is to put in Harris, who, while flawed, is getting better on D. When AJ did that, Harris won the game.

When we get Quis back, thats a third option to defend the point. True, none are really good at it, But unless we are guarenteed a point guard who's defence is so strong, its worth sacrificing all Terry brings, I'd veto any trade. Terry brings a lot. Tenacity, excellent, efficient scoring...he's more clutch than Fin has been in years. He's developed a nice, potent 2 man game with Dirk. While he is small when he plays the 2, he can be a nightmare for big 2's to cover.

Brevin Knight and Mike James are putting up nice numbers this year, but both are career backups mainly on mediocre teams. I'm just not sure the upside justifies the disruption. I say give Devin 33 minutes at the point, and hold onto our best clutch shooter.

[foglemann]

Originally Posted by Jet Terry

You want to ruin this team? Terry is our 3rd best player. You don't know anything about basketball!!! Dallas would get killed by zone defense if we lose Terry.

This is the exact same arguement people held onto for Finley. What will happen with our outside shooting when Finley is gone. My opinion then and now, who cares, we have three point shooters on the team. Josh, Marquis, and Devin will get better, I promise, and Keith and Stack are fine for the random three. Whoever we trade Jet for is going to be an outside shooter in some sort of way. Dirk being the only true outside shooter would be better for the team IMO, let everyone else crash the boards and post up, its all about rebounds, points in the paint, and defense for Avery anyway.

Bonit, in no way am I putting Cassell and defense together, I was only stating that Cassell would be as good or better than what Terry is doing with the team. IMO, he'd be better, he can actually set up teammates and is just as clutch and unstoppable with the shot. His defense is definitly suspect, no doubt, but I would love to see him play backup to Devin next year, I think that would be a perfect combo.

[Jet Terry]

Originally Posted by foglemann

This is the exact same arguement people held onto for Finley. What will happen with our outside shooting when Finley is gone. My opinion then and now, who cares, we have three point shooters on the team. Josh, Marquis, and Devin will get better, I promise, and Keith and Stack are fine for the random three. Whoever we trade Jet for is going to be an outside shooter in some sort of way. Dirk being the only true outside shooter would be better for the team IMO, let everyone else crash the boards and post up, its all about rebounds, points in the paint, and defense for Avery anyway.

Bonit, in no way am I putting Cassell and defense together, I was only stating that Cassell would be as good or better than what Terry is doing with the team. IMO, he'd be better, he can actually set up teammates and is just as clutch and unstoppable with the shot. His defense is definitly suspect, no doubt, but I would love to see him play backup to Devin next year, I think that would be a perfect combo.

It's alot about points in the paint but how is it possible to get easy shots in the paint? Have some outside shooters. Finley was crap last year anyway so we didn't miss him much at all. Terry though is much better. Daniels and Howard will never be consistent 3 point shooters. Who knows if Devin will ever be. Terry by himself is the zone killer so in a way he is the second most important offensive player due to changing the way the other team guards them. He makes it easier for Howard and Daniels to work in the paint.

[Folterkammer]

this is just espn bla bla ..
the mavs won`t trade him !

[nowitzki_prophecy]

Though a thought of a PG who can actualy deliver the ball and average over 5-6 APG makes me slobber,we can kiss the title good bye if we trade our starting PG this far into the season.
Giving Devin more minutes seems like a good solution in the meantime,while we plan a trade for the offseason.

[birdsanctuary]

Things are far better for the Mavs when Devin Harris runs the point and JET has the green light to take off....

I'd consider trading JET if it meant getting back a PP, and keeping Daniels (if that's even possible)...

[alby]

Don't tease me and bring up the PP talks up again lol

[HexNBA]

AJ almost goes out of his way every time point play comes up to praise Terry or at least say he's satisfied, so I dont see this as being based on truth at all.

[alby]

One thing is for certain, Jason Terry is damn clutch.. Last year was his first in the playoffs too, give this guy a chance..

[aexchange]

i dont think this means a move out of dallas for terry. i do think that terry is going to see less and less floor time as the season goes on.

AJ has recognized that harris is the present and future here. hes the best PG we have the roster. hands down.

[jacktruth]

So, we are looking for a good outside shooter, preferably a point guard, that can also play good perimiter defense. . .Well, so are 26+ other teams in the NBA. The rest already have one and unless they are drunk, stupid, or dead, they probably won't trade them for Terry.

I think AJ and Cuban know how critical it is to keep this team together through this year. I can see not resigning him or doing a S/T in the off-season, but this team is winning a lot of games. Changing the starting point guard half-way through a great winning season, no matter his weakness, is stupid.

[Bookit]

There is no way the Mavs are trading Terry. They are in dire need of guys who can spread the floor, especially at the end of games. The guy is deadly from long range. How many clutch shots has the guy hit? It is up to Avery to recognize his defensive liabilities and stick Devin on the guys Terry can't cover.

[alby]

if only damp didnt commit stupid fouls, and just contest the damn shots at the basket...

[sike]

you gotta be kidding me....

Terry > Fin
everyday of the week.

[alby]

amen brother

[grndmstr_c]

At this point in their respective careers the comparison of JT to Fin is really kinda silly. One has a PER of 18.4, the other has a PER of 11.5. I mean, come on. It's not even close at this point. If the comparison is between JT and the Fin of old, and you think the two are comparable, then I don't see what the problem is; I'd be perfectly happy to have either guy in their prime on my team.

[madape]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

At this point in their respective careers the comparison of JT to Fin is really kinda silly. One has a PER of 18.4, the other has a PER of 11.5. I mean, come on. It's not even close at this point. If the comparison is between JT and the Fin of old, and you think the two are comparable, then I don't see what the problem is; I'd be perfectly happy to have either guy in their prime on my team.

Yeah, the problem is that neither Terry nor Finley in his prime could run point effectively for us. I love Terry. I think he can help this team win a championship, even if he's not the starting point. I just want a true point guard out on the floor at all times.

So, the question now is whether it makes sense to pay $60M over 5 years to a killer backup scoring guard when you also have Stackhouse and Danels on the team. And if the Mavericks decide Terry isn't worth it, they need to get what they can for him now. That's the biggest decision the Mavericks have to make this year. Because in my mind the question of whether Terry can be starting point guard has already been answered.

[Steel_01]

Come on. We have got to give this guy a chance. It never fails that as good as this team can do, espn and even us find the negative to dwell on. We are right on the heels of the defending champs, as we have been the entire season and we do not need some negative "rumor" to start poisoning our team.

Terry has impressed me last year and this year. I have to disagree on two things. One, he has been on of the best in driving and taking it the basket when we need a quick 2 or foul to stop the other team's momentum. Second, I love Findog, but Terry has outplayed him last year and this year. At this point in their respective careers, it is foolish to compare the athletic ability and all around game of Finley and Terry.

So, I say let's stop focusing on the one negative aspect of this team and start getting ready for one of the best playoff runs in Mavs history. Terry and his resigning should be revisited in the offseason...That is a good time that I know everyone likes to talk about any little thing, but NOW is not the time!! Let's get this team healthy and improve on our way to the number one seed.

[Dtownsfinest]

LOL@Finley always ending up in discussion in the Mavericks section of this site.


Bucher does this every year. It seemed like he always had Finley being traded every year and JET's just the new guy to take the role since Fin's no longer here. He's going to be the one that reporters use to make up trades but I doubt he's going anywhere. But if there are no plans of having him return this year than i'd be looking to deal him.

[Bookit]

Not to mention that Terry is the ultimate teammate and team player. Trading him would be a negative for sure.

[capitalcity]

12 million per - where did you get those numbers ape?