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LT the TD machine
LaDainian Tomlinson has scored 4 TDs in two consecutive games (ties an NFL record), has scored 19 TDs in six games (NFL record) and now has 100 career TDs in only 89 games (4 fewer games than either Jim Brown or Emmitt Smith).
Question #1: Is LT the best RB in the NFL this season? Question #2: Do you think LT could become the best RB in the history of the NFL?
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11-20-2006, 08:53 AM
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#1 - yes
#2 - totally depends on injury.
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i may be burned at the stake for saying this, but I think LT is a better all around back right now then emmitt ever was.
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I don't think you will be burned for saying that. The guy catches like a receiver and throws like a quarterback on top of putting up crazy yards and scoring numerous touchdowns. He could very easily be considered the greatest RB of all time if he continues to do this. He is definitely on pace to break some major records.
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I'll bet he can't dance with the stars though.
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The guy is an amazing freak of a human being.
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LT> Emmitt hands down
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Emmitt just ahems, looks up and says SCOREBOARD.
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Some things LT doesn't have:
1) A Super Bowl ring 2) The NFL all-time yardage record He may get any or all of these, but until he does, you can't really compare him to Emmitt. What I will say is that LT is the best back in the NFL right now and approaching consideration for best back of his generation. Longevity and post-season success will be the key for him building his legacy. Those four touchdowns may have been enough to get by the Broncos, but they weren't enough to get by my fantasy team! 9-2 Biatch! Last edited by Darth Ape; 11-20-2006 at 12:13 PM. |
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As for how I feel about this, I think right now LT is probably as good/better than emmitt ever was but emmitt was SO good for SO long and I really think people have begun to forget how utterly great emmitt was... LT is basically, Barry's cutting and speed with Emmitts vision and power. Its a sick combination but give it some time before you rank him over emmitt. I would rank him top 5 of all time already though...
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That said, LT is pretty amazing. Who's closest to him right now? Larry Johnson? Tiki? |
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im just comparing the two at their absolute peak, not the body of work.
i think if you look at body of work, emmitt is better. but comparing the two right now, LT is just an incredible machine. |
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Emmitt also had the greatest line ever.
IMO, LT at his peak trumps Emmitt. However, Emmitt's durability was off the charts and we'll see if LT can measure up there. If so, records will be smashed. I think Jerry's records are safe but we'll see.
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Watch the guy run, watch him catch, even watch him pass!! Emmit did not move like that.
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LT will look back on his career say ahem look up and say scoreboard.
The kid is the best and I hold Barry Sanders slightly over Emmitt and Brown in that race. Once all is said and done it will be LT for all the reasons that Dan said above. |
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I think he has about 10,000 more yards to go yet. Come back when he's cut that in half.
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5-0 and dude....I understand and do not disagree in principal, but if the man stays healthy...he has to get the vote for all the reasons that Dan posted above.
Plus he is a local fella and I know his family. 
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He had Pro Bowlers littered up and down that line. Nate, Step, Gogan, Ron Stone, Williams, Tui, Allen. It's ridiculous how stacked that line was.
You don't need HOFers to make the greatest line ever. It was definitely the best line of the modern Super Bowl era.
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Here are some data that compare Emmitt and LT at comparable times in their careers. Note that LT still has 6 more games to play this season:
Emmitt (1990-1995; 93 games) Att: 2007 Yards: 8956 Y/A: 4.46 TD: 96 Rec: 301 Yards: 1951 Y/R: 6.48 TD:4 LT (2001-2006: 89 games) Att: 1913 Yards: 8952 Y/A: 4.4 TD: 91 Rec: 389 Yards: 2843 Y/R: 7.3 TD: 11 LT is on pace to match or exceed Emmitt's regular season records if he stays healthy (pretty much what most of you are saying). However, as Ape suggested LT has no Super Bowl rings. Also Emmitt has a variety of postseason records that will be difficult for LT to match. I don't know if any of you watched the Chargers vs Broncos game last night. It was amazing to watch LT at the end of the game. Everyone in the stadium (and watching at home) including the Broncos defense knew he was going to carry the ball, but they just could not stop him. Even when they put a good hit on him, LT was able to break free and keep moving forward. Awesome. LT has a long way to go yet, but he sure is fun to watch.
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He's definetly the best back in the NFL this year, and if he continues this and stays healthy he could easily be in the conversation of best RB of all time.
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I went to SMU and don't particularly care for TCU athletics.
That said, LT is a badass. He's the best running back I've ever watched play. Of the RBs that I'm old enough to have watched in the NFL, he only compares to Sanders, IMO. |
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One thing that helps Emmitt's case is that he was doing what he did against a dominant NFC East competition whereas LT is doing the majority of his damage versus a weak AFC West.
And when it comes to talking about Emmitt's offensive line...just remember that many of those guys were considered mediocre until Emmitt came along. |
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good stats purple frog. thanks.
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The one thing I dont get is why Emmitt never gets credit for winning. Every other position in every other sport comes down to winning. Dirk has put up numbers fairly comparable to larry bird but hes ranked a good bit lower because he doesnt have a ring. Mannings numbers dwarf bradys but brady is considered to be on the same level. Emmit has better numbers than anyone and 3 rings but we consistently here guy with lesser numbers and less rings ranked above him which makes no sense to me...
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On the Emmitt vs Barry debate, Emmitt was Duncan to Barrys KG. We all know who is better out of TD and KG...
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#1- Is there any doubt about it? No one else is in the league can even carry his jockstrap.
#2- With much due respect to Emmit, Barry, and Jim Brown I have to say that if LT keeps this up for another 3 or 4 seasons there is no question that he is the best ever. |
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The 'greatest?' Not yet
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports December 15, 2006 Let's start this by saying that San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson is a truly great player. He is the clear choice for Most Valuable Player and the 30-something touchdowns he's likely going to finish with are simply remarkable. But to all those people, including San Diego coach Marty Schottenheimer, who call Tomlinson the best ever, let's just wait a second. Tomlinson is a splendid player who has just about every skill you could imagine, including the ability to throw passes when necessary. Tomlinson has a great chance to set all sorts of records if he stays healthy. But in terms of singular greatness, he still hasn't surpassed the work of Jim Brown, Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. Brown, who was ahead of his time, was an amazing combination of size, speed and power. Payton had every move that Tomlinson possesses and performed at that level for a longer period of time. The same goes for Sanders, although there's a good argument to be made that Tomlinson is a better power runner than Sanders. This is not to say that Tomlinson won't get there, but to anoint him now because he happens to have broken the NFL's touchdown record in only 13 games and has had a very impressive six-year start to his career is getting ahead of the issue. While clusters of folk (media, fans or even coaches) seemingly don't have the patience to wait, the coronation of Tomlinson still has to play out. It also requires a little examination. Take the touchdown record, for example. What Tomlinson has done is an impressive feat. He has a record 29 in 13 games and could put the mark well out of sight. At least for awhile. But the touchdown record in football has become like the home run numbers in baseball from the late 1980s to now. In short, the numbers have exploded since the beginning of 2000. Over the past seven seasons, the touchdown record has been broken four times. That began with Marshall Faulk scoring 26 in 2000. Priest Holmes had 27 in 2003. Last year, Shaun Alexander had 28 with Seattle. Beyond that, the 20-touchdown season is becoming a yearly standard. There have been at least nine times in which a running back has scored 20 touchdowns or more in the past seven years. By comparison, there were only 12 such seasons over the first 68 years that the NFL kept records. A major reason for the recent explosion is the changes to the game, in particular the advent of wide-open offenses. A quick look at the four backs that have set the record over the past seven years is a good explanation. Faulk, Holmes, Alexander and Tomlinson are more slasher-type runners than power backs. The reason that works well is that in today's game, the field is more spread out with three- and four-receiver sets. In fact, Faulk customarily lined up in the slot with the Rams and Alexander is the only one in the quartet who hasn't had a 70-catch season. With so many receivers on the field, holes are created in the defense. Another factor is the decline in tackling skills of defensive players. With more coaches doing whatever they can to preserve their players in practice, defensive players simply don't get the work at hitting and tackling that they need to be sharp. That's particularly the case in working against the running game, leading to increased success for backs. Especially for ones as talented as Tomlinson.
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Well, LT is setting more records -
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is it just me or does LT seem to be getting faster each season? he pulled away from a lot of people last night and i dont remember him doing that at TCU
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His speed will surprise you. When LT played at TCU the observation was made that no one ever caught him from behind. Not sure if it that's true. But at any rate that 85 yard run last night was pretty amazing.
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I'm pretty sure he had sub 4.5 speed at the Draft combine.
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correct me if im wrong but wasnt the linebacker he ran away from DJ from UT? If so that is pretty darn impressive.
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