Jason Kidd Hints At Being In Cleveland Next Season - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Thomas86 · 03-29-2009, 09:18 PM

Jason Kidd will be an unrestricted free agent this summer and the Cavaliers could be a fit for the veteran point guard.

"I could sit and watch from the bench," Kidd said. "[LeBron] is so talented, he's going to get guys wide open shots. So we'll look at free agency and what happens for me next year."

They will have their mid-level exception ($5 million) and their bi-annual exception ($2 million) they could use on outside free agents

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....kidding_a.html

twistaeffect2004 · 03-29-2009, 09:25 PM

If he wants the best chance to win a title, then Cleveland is a no doubter.

chumdawg · 03-29-2009, 09:28 PM

He's in the catbird seat.

MaVs 41 BaLler · 03-29-2009, 09:29 PM

that stings a little but what the hell is he going to do here...

mqywaaah · 03-29-2009, 10:12 PM

That stings a little but what the hell are we going to do for a PG?

Dtownsfinest · 03-29-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mqywaaah

That stings a little but what the hell are we going to do for a PG?

We'd have to go back to JET. Barea better not even be in talks of being the starter that's for sure or chalk up another season as a loss.

craggmac · 03-29-2009, 10:25 PM

I would go if I were Kidd, depending on what the Mavs did during the offseason.

Popeye · 03-29-2009, 10:30 PM

that's probably why he rested in Denver's winnable game so he could showcase himself against a team that never loses at home.

mqywaaah · 03-29-2009, 10:47 PM

Then if we let go of Kidd, that would mean that we threw Harris away for nothing. Oh well

fluid.forty.one · 03-29-2009, 10:48 PM

I really want him to get that #2 spot while he's a Maverick.

monty55555 · 03-29-2009, 10:51 PM

Kidd has a lot of options out there. I doubt he would get very high offers from a lot of teams, though. Also, if the Lakers or Cavs are interested, he may have to settle for a much lower contract but one which gives him a bigger chance of getting a ring.

Kidd loves LeBron. They have this mutual admiration for each other. They seem to be really good pals. I honestly think Kidd wouldn't mind settling for less money to be able to play with either LeBron or Kobe. I think he will really wait and see what the Mavs' front office will do in the off season. See what talent they can bring in to mesh with his style of play and see if the Mavs are in a position to make a real run at a championship next year. If no major changes happen, I foresee him signing for less with either the Cavs or the Lakers, if these teams are interested.

ghazi · 03-29-2009, 11:07 PM

I would be disappointed to see him leave but I can't really blame him. Twilight of his career he wants a ring to cap it off and unfortunately it doesn't appear our beloved Mavs can give him that opportunity.

It's just frustrating then. Giving up Devin Harris and 2 #1's for just 1.5 years of Kidd? By no means do I think Kidd is even close to the primary problem of this team but to give up that much for a 1.5 year rental is a disappointment, especially given the results.

We'll see what happens.

Tokey41 · 03-30-2009, 12:52 AM

Who could have possibly forseen this happening. I hate the front office.

eyedentifyme · 03-30-2009, 02:35 AM

nbadraft.net 2009 mock draft has us taking point guard Ty Lawson from North Carolina.

GermanDunk · 03-30-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mqywaaah

Then if we let go of Kidd, that would mean that we threw Harris away for nothing. Oh well

Knowing JKidd will be unrestricted the deal was a risk anyway. btw. A risky deal not even the richest european soccer clubs would have agreed in.

Personally, i don´t know what kind of guy Kidd is. But one for sure, he will not win a title with DAL in the next two years.

Bron will be able to leave CLE, when i remember correctly, this summer. So it is questionable who will sit on the bench watching...

sphincs · 03-30-2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas86

Jason Kidd will be an unrestricted free agent this summer and the Cavaliers could be a fit for the veteran point guard.

"I could sit and watch from the bench," Kidd said. "[LeBron] is so talented, he's going to get guys wide open shots. So we'll look at free agency and what happens for me next year."

They will have their mid-level exception ($5 million) and their bi-annual exception ($2 million) they could use on outside free agents

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....kidding_a.html

I had just thought a similar scenario concerning Kidd's future...
Then Cavs haven't a real playmaker and Kidd coul be the right player to control game better and to give James and all Cavs a great experience.

DubOverdose · 03-30-2009, 06:05 AM

I hope he does leave

Underdog · 03-30-2009, 07:39 AM

This news makes 2 things very apparent:

1) Kidd-Harris trade = bust

2) Dallas fans = Judas

jthig32 · 03-30-2009, 08:01 AM

Let's all step back and breathe a little. Kidd doesn't even make sense on Cleveland. Lebron distributes the ball. He needs jump shooters around him, hence Mo Williams.

Now I've said all along that people should prepare themselves for the possibility of Kidd leaving, but I doubt very seriously Cleveland is going to spend their MLE on Kidd after not cashing in their big expiring contract this season.

mqywaaah · 03-30-2009, 08:24 AM

Mavs are effed. If not now, then soon.

bm0155 · 03-30-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Let's all step back and breathe a little. Kidd doesn't even make sense on Cleveland. Lebron distributes the ball. He needs jump shooters around him, hence Mo Williams.

Now I've said all along that people should prepare themselves for the possibility of Kidd leaving, but I doubt very seriously Cleveland is going to spend their MLE on Kidd after not cashing in their big expiring contract this season.

Thanks for the resonable perspective - Kidd may want to go to Cleveland or Kidd may want to try to drive the price of his contract up, but I don't think Kidd will fit into what Cleveland needs.

Sportstudi · 03-30-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

If he wants the best chance to win a title, then Cleveland is a no doubter.

Don't tell this Dirk. Otherwise I could imagine the following scenario: If Cleveland can keep LBJ in 2010 and as far as I know (read it recently at nba.com) they will have the cap space to sign another free agent for a max contract (e.g. Wade), maybe Dirk would agree then for a min. contract to get his ring. I know, he always stated that he wants to bring a title to Dallas and I really hope so too, but he knows that his window is getting smaller and smaller... Moreover, in 2010 Dallas would get nothing for him if he opts out, right? Hmm...

MX425 · 03-30-2009, 08:36 AM

I said all these about Kidd leaving around the trade dealine and what was said at that time was the Mavs will look to offer him a 1 yr 10 mil contract or something of the like. He can't get that money elsewhere. Players say this stuff all the time. It's how you drive up your asking price. I think if the same question was asked of any player on a team looking at the 8th seed to have a chance to play with a chamionship contender the answer would be yeah I would love to.

Sportstudi · 03-30-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by monty55555

Kidd has a lot of options out there. I doubt he would get very high offers from a lot of teams, though. Also, if the Lakers or Cavs are interested, he may have to settle for a much lower contract but one which gives him a bigger chance of getting a ring.

Kidd loves LeBron. They have this mutual admiration for each other. They seem to be really good pals. I honestly think Kidd wouldn't mind settling for less money to be able to play with either LeBron or Kobe. I think he will really wait and see what the Mavs' front office will do in the off season. See what talent they can bring in to mesh with his style of play and see if the Mavs are in a position to make a real run at a championship next year. If no major changes happen, I foresee him signing for less with either the Cavs or the Lakers, if these teams are interested.

I agree.

frankvizza · 03-30-2009, 08:44 AM

like i said on the other forum , if us mavericks fans are worrying about a 36 year old leaving us to sign with a better team i say fucken go he does nothing that anyone else can't do on our team ,we need to develop a pg that can score without that we are pooched in the west , like houston they will be gone again in the first round because they got no pg , we'll have to see what happens to mavs come summer time but this team has some good trade chips , we will be elite again come 2010

nikeball · 03-30-2009, 09:19 AM

sumbitch

LonghornDub · 03-30-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frankvizza

like i said on the other forum , if us mavericks fans are worrying about a 36 year old leaving us to sign with a better team i say fucken go he does nothing that anyone else can't do on our team ,we need to develop a pg that can score without that we are pooched in the west , like houston they will be gone again in the first round because they got no pg , we'll have to see what happens to mavs come summer time but this team has some good trade chips , we will be elite again come 2010

Step 1) Watch more basketball; try to actually learn a thing or two
Step 2) ???
Step 3) Profit.

Stranger · 03-30-2009, 10:00 AM

Are these appropriate comments on Kidd's part? At least part of me thinks he should answer any question about free agency with "I'm a Dallas Maverick."

Underdog · 03-30-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Are these appropriate comments on Kidd's part? At least part of me thinks he should answer any question about free agency with "I'm a Dallas Maverick."

Exactly - at least wait until the season is over to start talking about Free Agency...

He might not be going to Cleveland, but that doesn't mean he's staying in Dallas...

Dirkgreatness · 03-30-2009, 10:06 AM

If Kidd of leaves this offseason, please don't start Barea. If anything you better do your best to try to sign Raymond Felton this offseason.

GermanDunk · 03-30-2009, 10:36 AM

I think, Barea can´t improve any more. What we see is his level. He might have his qualities, but those are nearly useless when you can´t rely on those. Especially when a player, like Josh, is out. He has to be traded.

craggmac · 03-30-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanDunk

I think, Barea can´t improve any more. What we see is his level. He might have his qualities, but those are nearly useless when you can´t rely on those. Especially when a player, like Josh, is out. He has to be traded.

...and Josh Howard too.

Kidd Karma · 03-30-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MX425

I said all these about Kidd leaving around the trade dealine and what was said at that time was the Mavs will look to offer him a 1 yr 10 mil contract or something of the like. He can't get that money elsewhere. Players say this stuff all the time. It's how you drive up your asking price. I think if the same question was asked of any player on a team looking at the 8th seed to have a chance to play with a chamionship contender the answer would be yeah I would love to.

Yep, every visit in to a viable team will no doubt draw the media questions, it happens with every legit player on his contract year.

SMC0007 · 03-30-2009, 11:43 AM

It may not be a bad idea to let him go. He is decent but we don't have anyone of significance on the up swing of their career. I wouldn't offer much at all to keep him personally, he is very limited and will only decline next year.

ghazi · 03-30-2009, 11:52 AM

Guys Im scared

Justin Credible · 03-30-2009, 12:00 PM

Let's be real.. The probability of Kidd signing with the Mavericks for another one year deal is better than people think it is. Would he have a better shot at a ring somewhere else? Of course he would, but who wants a 36 year old PG in this league? It's obvious that he would only have one more season (maybe two) left in him and given the 09-10 free agency market he really is at the bottom of the PG totem pole, no matter how legendary he is.

He's a remarkable true PG. Yeah, he doesn't score as much as CP3 but he creates and plays defense. What Dallas needs to do is get another Devin Harris caliber PG project and put him under kidd for a season. Look at what Kidd has given the Mavericks.. He's turned barea into an NBA midget that warms a small portion of the bench to a PG that can actually go out and make a difference in some games. He's created a situation where Dirk and Terry could both have one of the best season of their careers, and I truly believe that he, alongside with the more defensive trades, have allowed the Mavericks to make it this far.

I truly hope that Cuban takes his billion dollars and turns around and buys out someone like Bosh to put alongside Dirk as well as resigning Kidd. The only thing missing from that equation would be a PG to put under Kidd so that he could work his magic on creating a true PG for Dallas to use for future seasons.

If Cuban were to do that we'd have a great shot at the rings next season as well as have a talent to build around for the future. I truly believe that Bosh is the key to Dallas winning rings in the future. He's from Dallas and he doesn't care for being in Toronto.. I'd hate to get rid of Green because he has so much talent, but if it took trading Bass/Green/Howard to get Bosh then I'd be game. I'd rather it be Bass/Green/$$$$$$$$$ but it's all whatever I guess.

It is what it is.

If Kidd leaves then we'll just have to replace him with a younger talent. It might not be an immediate payoff but at least it will work out in the long run (hopefully). I still think it's ridiculous that we traded half of the puzzle for the other half. What we needed was Devin Harris under Kidd so he could learn some defense and become a better creator on and off the ball.. We got rid of the pupil to buy the teacher, but now the teacher doesn't have any class to teach.

Doesn't make much sense.

nikeball · 03-30-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eyedentifyme

nbadraft.net 2009 mock draft has us taking point guard Ty Lawson from North Carolina.

I would love this.

edit: There are a good amount of point guards (hybrid SGs) that could opt for the NBA this year. Brandon Jennings, Stephen Curry (SG technically), Tyreke Evans, Jeff Teague, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, Jrue Holliday, Darren Collison and etc...

Let Kidd go and draft a PG. Sign a swingman.

GermanDunk · 03-30-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin Credible

Let's be real.. The probability of Kidd signing with the Mavericks for another one year deal is better than people think it is. Would he have a better shot at a ring somewhere else?

SMC0007 · 03-30-2009, 12:08 PM

Janett_Reno · 03-30-2009, 01:25 PM

Kidd for Harris was for a nba title for the Mavs two years and the Mavs found out those two nba titles wasn't going to happen. I won't go into why not.

If i was Kidd, i would play for free to play with Lebron. I thought Cleveland could compete after a while for a title with Lebron but this quick. This guy simply amazes me. This guy is one amazing talent. To the point, i think their team this year can compete and has a good shot at beating Boston and Orlando. If Lebron wants Kidd, Lebron will probably get what he wants. I would do all i can to keep him happy and in Cleveland. I also agree with the poster in here saying Kidd doesn't play their style and why want Kidd? Cleveland plays beautiful half court offense and can penetrate. Like the one poster mentions, give the ball to Lebron or Kobe as the clock winds down, half court, either go in for a dunk or lay up, jump shot or penetrate and kick out to Williams and he knocks down a three or Kobe penetrate and kick out to his pg or a few others that will knock down the three. Both have the perfect situation and what also helps both teams is a big man in the middle that teams must defend in Z or Bynum and Gasol.

Kidd is crazy to stay here and he should be paling around with Lebron daily to get that deal done. He will be ok at Cleveland but Williams is alot better than Kidd at this point. I also agree with a poster in here, Dallas needs to quit playing tiddly winks running around trying to get players like Faz, Wally World, or Nash back, Antoine Walker, or whatever else has been but get someone that can make a basket in the painted area. We have not got one person after Harris leaving that can make a basket in the paint. Maybe a couple times a month Bass can and Barea is about the only player on this team that can make a lay up in the paint. Is he maybe 5'5"?

So yes the poster that mentions get Bosh or someone to play along side Dirk is where Dallas needs to go. Not more Antoine Walker's, Kidd's, Nash's because they are all about 40 or 50 years old. If they don't, Dirk needs to tell Cuban, i am ready to hit the road and ship me also to the Lakers, Spurs, maybe Houston, Utah, Boston, Cleveland or Orlando. No Dallas got nothing for Harris but again it was a one time crap shoot for a title for a year or two. It didn't work. Cuban forgot we couldn't score in the paint, he took away our penetrater and traded for someone older than Nash. Plus teams made Kidd a shooter for us.

Kidd should go for a ring no matter his pay. It is not his fault about this team but it was never a good fit. Plus he is not what he use to be and if Dallas wants to flutter around in the wind Dirk seriously needs to ask for a pass out of Dallas. Let him have a chance in his prime. It will also be some big changes in Phx i would think and please Cuban, don't bring Nash, Fin, Bradley back or Walker because none of them is going to bring you a title. Be sensible.