Preseason GDT: Mavs at Pistons - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Kante · 10-13-2010, 06:01 PM

Yeah another game...

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The Mavericks head into Grand Rapids, Mich. to face the Detroit Pistons Wednesday night. In the team's fifth preseason contest, coach Rick Carlisle is looking for improved play on both ends of the court, writes Earl K. Sneed.

The Mavericks are not alarmed by their 1-3 record in the preseason.

Instead, the team is looking at the mark as an opportunity to improve as the eight-game exhibition schedule continues on, with another opportunity to get better coming Wednesday night against the Detroit Pistons in Grand Rapids, Mich.

"Obviously, there's a lot of different thoughts on preseason. But my personal opinion is that it's good to get in the habit of winning," forward Steve Novak said. "Everyone out there is an NBA player and you should be able to give yourself a chance no matter who's out there. The more you win, the more it becomes a habit. And I don't think 1-3 is what we wanted at this point. But I also think that we won't overreact and think this is how the season is going to be."

Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle agrees with Novak's assessment. So while Carlisle was implementing new parts of his playbook during the team's Tuesday practice in Dallas, the head coach also stressed to his team that the main focus is improve game by game. For the players, that includes bettering their performance after Monday night's 85-79 home loss to Cleveland.

"We're just continuing to work on things that are critical," Carlisle said, "running the floor, screening, timing, getting more new stuff in, making sure that the stuff we have in we're doing hard and doing right."

Carlisle also took extra time in practice preparing for the Pistons' high-octane offense by focusing on improving the Mavericks' transition defense. With a bevy of Pistons that can score in fast-break opportunities, Carlisle wants to ensue that the five defending guys on the court for the Dallas squad are always looking to get back to the other side of the floor.

"The biggest other issue that we have right now is our transition defense. That's something that we did a good job on (in practice Tuesday), and we've got to stay on it," Carlisle said. "I'm looking at trends. I'm looking at things that continue to creep in that we have to address."

The coach adds that he will also continue to utilize different lineups as he examines which combinations of players work best with each other. Carlisle hasn't settled on a starting lineup for Wednesday night, nor is he certain which five players will take the court when the team opens the season Oct. 27 at home against the Charlotte Bobcats.

"There's nothing set in stone at this point," Carlisle explained. "Half way through exhibition and a 1-3 record, I think you've got to say there's still a lot of possibilities and it's still really competitive."

Perhaps Carlisle will get a better idea of how his rotation will look after meeting up with a Detroit team looking to return to the playoffs after a 32-50 season in 2009-10. The Pistons were one of the major pursuers in free agency during the summer of '09, adding guard Ben Gordon and forward Charlie Villanueva. But injuries derailed last season's playoff hopes. This summer, the Pistons added former scoring champ and All-Star Tracy McGrady making the Detroit ball club that much more dangerous when healthy.

That makes Detroit the perfect pre-season test, according to Carlisle.

"They're going to be a lot better, because their guys have an extra year together. They've added some more quality pieces. And health was an issue for them last year, too, and they're going to be healthy," Carlisle said.

But the Mavericks' leader on the sideline is more concerned with how his squad looks, saying that he'd like to see the team continue to progress on its way toward claiming a second exhibition win.

"Look, we're seeing some good things. We had some mild progress (against Cleveland), we had progress in practice and (Wednesday night) we'll see where we are," Carlisle said.

The Mavericks-Pistons matchup will tip off on Wednesday night at 6 p.m. CT. The game will not be televised.

http://www.nba.com/mavericks/news/in...010_10_13.html

No TV = No Links...

sefant77 · 10-13-2010, 06:03 PM

Barea
Stevenson
Marion
Cardinal
Haywood

No Dirk, no Kidd. Guess we arent missing anything...

sefant77 · 10-13-2010, 06:04 PM

Courtside liveblog

http://www.mavsfastbreak.com/2010/10...ricks-pistons/

BGMaverick9 · 10-13-2010, 06:07 PM

The Revolution Will NOT Be Televised...

Kante · 10-13-2010, 06:11 PM

First shot: Brendan Haywood misses 13-foot jumper

Wow...

fluid.forty.one · 10-13-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

The Revolution Will NOT Be Televised...

freakin' rep

Underdog · 10-13-2010, 07:40 PM

Quiet thread after one half...

GO PRESEASON!!!

FINtastic · 10-13-2010, 08:04 PM

Looks like the Pistons are getting Novak-ed

CadBane · 10-13-2010, 08:37 PM

It's so refreshing to see a three point specialist who actually makes threes.

mavs777 · 10-13-2010, 08:41 PM

Terry shot a higher % than Novak from 3 last year

dude1394 · 10-13-2010, 09:19 PM

Novak does seem to be unconscious with his shooting. He knows he's a shooter and he's going to shoot. He's got a lot
more confidence than last yea'rs dude(carroll) and he's taller. He's probably on the team

Dirkadirkastan · 10-13-2010, 09:24 PM

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Ore confidence thanast hears dude

What happened here?

CadBane · 10-13-2010, 09:25 PM

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Terry shot a higher % than Novak from 3 last year

First of all, almost everyone did. Dirk had a higher 3pt% than Terry. So did Kidd. Novak shot 31% from three. He also played 54 games and only 6 minutes a game. The previous 2 years he shot 42% and 48% from three.

Second of all, I don't think you know what a "three point specialist" is. It's a guy who's sole job is to shoot threes. Like Steve Kerr, Korver, ect.

Terry is a rotational player. Dirk is a great three point shooter, but he's not a "three point specialist".

In the past the guys who we had standing on the wing to shoot threes have been scrubs like Antoine Wright, who don't actually hit threes.

The last real three point specialist we had was Walt Williams.

rmacomic · 10-13-2010, 10:42 PM

This is from espn player profile for Novak

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News: Novak led all scorers with 22 points (8-of-13 FG, 6-of-10 3Pt) in Wednesday's win over the Pistons.
Spin: This is just a case of a three-point specialist getting hot from downtown in a somewhat meaningless preseason tilt. Dallas was without stars Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd and Caron Butler, so don't expect this type of performance to become the norm for Novak.

God I hate those "see you next Tuesdays" sometimes. Let the guy have his moment.

Rick41 · 10-13-2010, 10:55 PM

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This is from espn player profile for Novak

God I hate those "see you next Tuesdays" sometimes. Let the guy have his moment.

At this point, I would take Novak over Cardinal for the last spot.

Flacolaco · 10-13-2010, 11:11 PM

I couldn't watch and I don't have time to go through this...can someone summarize the game in one word or less?

BGMaverick9 · 10-13-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I couldn't watch and I don't have time to go through this...can someone summarize the game in one word or less?

Novak-asm

41mvp · 10-13-2010, 11:28 PM

Novak was amazing in this match.

fluid.forty.one · 10-14-2010, 12:32 AM

We win! Thank God!

SMC0007 · 10-14-2010, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

First of all, almost everyone did. Dirk had a higher 3pt% than Terry. So did Kidd. Novak shot 31% from three. He also played 54 games and only 6 minutes a game. The previous 2 years he shot 42% and 48% from three.

Second of all, I don't think you know what a "three point specialist" is. It's a guy who's sole job is to shoot threes. Like Steve Kerr, Korver, ect.

Terry is a rotational player. Dirk is a great three point shooter, but he's not a "three point specialist".

In the past the guys who we had standing on the wing to shoot threes have been scrubs like Antoine Wright, who don't actually hit threes.

The last real three point specialist we had was Walt Williams.

If we need a 3 to tie or win, Dirk and Jet could be used in a play with Novak. Hence 3 pt specialists.

CadBane · 10-14-2010, 02:19 AM

Of course they'd be used...that doesn't make them three point specialists. Three point specialists are only good at one thing...shooting three pointers (and probably fts).

GermanDunk · 10-14-2010, 04:37 AM

What happened to the Jet ? 3 Points in 15 minutes ? Wtf ?!

Kante · 10-14-2010, 05:07 AM

Jones 5 of 9 with 7 assists, nice one.

I would take Novak over Cardinal right now, the last game and against the Pistons he was better and Cardinal brought nothing to the table.

dude1394 · 10-14-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

What happened here?

fat-finger-phone-syndrome. ffps...

sefant77 · 10-14-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kante

Jones 5 of 9 with 7 assists, nice one.

I would take Novak over Cardinal right now, the last game and against the Pistons he was better and Cardinal brought nothing to the table.

I would take both and set the roster to 15. They are both very different and we could use both types. Screw the 1-2 million more on salary and LT.

Kidd/Terry/Barea
Roddy/Jones/Stevenson
Butler/Marion/Novak
Dirk/Cardinal/Aijinca
Haywood/Chandler/Mahinmi

41mvp · 10-14-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

I would take both and set the roster to 15. They are both very different and we could use both types. Screw the 1-2 million more on salary and LT.

Kidd/Terry/Barea
Roddy/Jones/Stevenson
Butler/Marion/Novak
Dirk/Cardinal/Aijinca
Haywood/Chandler/Mahinmi

Marion can plays on PF.So I don't see him on SF.He played last year on SF.And his game was weak.In PHX he played on PF and he was great.So I see him on PF position.

Dirk/Marion/Cardinal/Mahinmi

AngieO41 · 10-14-2010, 10:51 AM

Call me a bad fan, but I had no idea there was a game last night. Uhhh oops?

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-14-2010, 10:54 AM

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Call me a bad fan, but I had no idea there was a game last night. Uhhh oops?

Don't feel bad because it wasn't on tv. I just heard bits from the radio.

Dirkadirkastan · 10-14-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

fat-finger-phone-syndrome. ffps...

Ohhh I see what you were trying to say now. I couldn't figure it out at all before.

wilmtalk · 10-14-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GermanDunk

What happened to the Jet ? 3 Points in 15 minutes ? Wtf ?!

Thats is what Jet will give you. He will light you up one day and shoot bricks the next. We just need to play him when he is hot and sit him when he is not.

SMC0007 · 10-14-2010, 06:38 PM

Jet had 4 ast tho...

tcat075 · 10-14-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wilmtalk

Thats is what Jet will give you. He will light you up one day and shoot bricks the next. We just need to play him when he is hot and sit him when he is not.

Yup. When Terry doesn't hit his jumpers, he's not very good at all. Doesn't put anything else on the table.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-14-2010, 08:57 PM

Not trying to defend Jet, but isn't most of the team inconsistent outside of Uber?

LonghornDub · 10-15-2010, 12:03 AM

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Not trying to defend Jet, but isn't most of the team inconsistent outside of Uber?

Yes. And he's still one of the best players on the team. Arguably that's a bad thing, but it's still the truth.

EricaLubarsky · 10-15-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Not trying to defend Jet, but isn't most of the team inconsistent outside of Uber?

Its true but its why this team is so terrible. We have a few guys that can go off for 20, but when we need em guys like Terry and Butler often dissapear.

Then there are the borderline "explosives" we have. Kidd can occasionally knock down 3-5 threes. Roddy is like having Josh Howard in that he can single-handedly carve a team up into bits but only on occasion. Plus Roddy isnt going to get a lot of time.

The main thing is that this team is so dependent on the iso. Other than a Terry/Dirk pick-n-roll/pop we really play no set plays so we really cant have set shooters and without a distributor that can pass consistently I dont see that changing. Its all 1-on-5 ball on offense. No matter how good our team is offensively, its only ever as good as the guy thats isolating.

Roddy really doesnt know how to run an offense and we are probably making it harder on him by not having a set of go-to set plays. Its hard to learn to run an offense when our offense is controlled anarchy with a bunch of staggered isos.

Kidd can't penetrate anymore, JJB has always been our best penetrator since Harris but he can't create a play for others if his life depended on it. Jones has promise but he's much more of a Wade/Maggette hybrid and again its hard to learn to run a play when we really dont run set plays.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-15-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Its true but its why this team is so terrible. We have a few guys that can go off for 20, but when we need em guys like Terry and Butler often dissapear.

Then there are the borderline "explosives" we have. Kidd can occasionally knock down 3-5 threes. Roddy is like having Josh Howard in that he can single-handedly carve a team up into bits but only on occasion. Plus Roddy isnt going to get a lot of time.

The main thing is that this team is so dependent on the iso. Other than a Terry/Dirk pick-n-roll/pop we really play no set plays so we really cant have set shooters and without a distributor that can pass consistently I dont see that changing. Its all 1-on-5 ball on offense. No matter how good our team is offensively, its only ever as good as the guy thats isolating.

Roddy really doesnt know how to run an offense and we are probably making it harder on him by not having a set of go-to set plays. Its hard to learn to run an offense when our offense is controlled anarchy with a bunch of staggered isos.

Kidd can't penetrate anymore, JJB has always been our best penetrator since Harris but he can't create a play for others if his life depended on it. Jones has promise but he's much more of a Wade/Maggette hybrid and again its hard to learn to run a play when we really dont run set plays.

I wouldn't say this team is terrible, but it does look a little discombobulated at the moment. The question is how much stock to put into preseason. If Butler keeps settling for that jumper, then it could be long season. Someone has to pick up after Dirk.

SMC0007 · 10-15-2010, 11:13 AM

We don't know what we have until Roddy comes back pre-season or not. If he can play the 2 guard the way we need someone to we will look much better. The entire mix and flow of the offense will come easier and most of the other players won't have to force themselves to play outside of what they are. <glass half full outlook.

EricaLubarsky · 10-15-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I wouldn't say this team is terrible, but it does look a little discombobulated at the moment. The question is how much stock to put into preseason. If Butler keeps settling for that jumper, then it could be long season. Someone has to pick up after Dirk.

I'm not even talking about pre-season. I think it has been a major issue for a few years now. It was even one of the issues with having Harris here-- we were trying to turn him into a PG but we also had pure anarchy. Its not a new thing by any means.

And yeah I would have no problem if it was anarchy with Butler, Terry, Jones, Roddy, etc as long as we could get higher-percentage shots AKA getting a lot more shots in the paint.

It just really seems like we have some of the most talented offensive players in the league and yet our offense is always a struggle while guys in a strong system are always getting open shots, etc

dude1394 · 10-15-2010, 11:18 PM

The team really seemed to be talking defensively tonight. Especially dirk/chandler. Some of the benefits of having the big talking chandler out there.

Crap...wrong thread...

chumdawg · 10-16-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

The last real three point specialist we had was Walt Williams.

You might include Van Horn and Tim Thomas in that class as well.