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Old 04-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #1
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Can't inbound, getting outscored by ~20 in a quarter, the PG's never pass it to Dirk...

But Wright was great!
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PG's? What PGs? We have 4 damn shooting guards in the rotation.

Roddy should see the door out of the rotation after Kidd comes back, and I hope he's never in a Mavs jersey again. I'd trade him for a tough veteran if I had to. The guy has no work ethic as proven when his rookie year was his peak, has terrible attitude, is selfish with the ball and can't see for shit.

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Get Roddy the fuck out of here

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Dirk with untimely (UGLY!!!!) turnovers late in the last two games...
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Sucks that we outscored them by 14 combined in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, but were down 19 after one...
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This is all TERRYS fault for forcing Dirk to make bad passes 2 nights in a row :/

Okk I am usually one to say that things will be fine and I still believe that. BUT this team better realize that there are 10 games left?? they need to set a goal for themselves and try to do a 8-2 or 7-3 because honestly otherwise they could be in trouble.
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Our ceiling is a playoff appearance. Anything more would be a massive bonus. Let's get our expectations in check.
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As shown in the past two games, you only need 1 quarter to cost you the game.
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Jet mouth has been big and annoying this year, but he was correct in saying that this is just a collection of players and not a team. The body language says it all. These guys are not lifting each other up at all.
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Don't know, seems like we're just two or three plays off to win 10+ more games. Frustrating...

All about late game execution. We're talking three turnovers in a 5 point game.

Hopefully Kidd will be back soon. Roddy played like shit and was light-years ahead of West. That's simply not good enough.
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Execution on offense looks way too sloppy for this late in the season. Not really the way we want to enter the playoffs, but I guess I was probably saying something similar at this point last season. But seriously, what happened to the crisp ball movement on offense of yesteryear?
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ppl jokingly would say there was a chance we wouldnt make the playoffs this year, well were on the verge of being on the outside of the top eight in the west
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Jet mouth has been big and annoying this year, but he was correct in saying that this is just a collection of players and not a team. The body language says it all. These guys are not lifting each other up at all.
I don't know. The last defensive possessions were great! But it doesn't help if you're going to throw away the ball immediately. We scored two points in over three clutch minutes and took only two shots and two FTAs.

Last years squad would have easily scored 10.

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Mediocre Mavs playing mediocre. Its so hard to watch and there's no light at the end of the tunnel as of yet...
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the energy showed each game shows that this team just doesn't care. Its almost like they feel like they can't win it all this year, so they would rather just not even make the playoffs to get to the gofl really sad to see them playing this bad.
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We string together a few good defensive and offensive plays and then someone makes a bone headed play that totally kills momentum. Their is no flow with us, no team work. Dribble dribble philosophy at its best right now. I feel like we don't have that time off to really build with these "collection of players".
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Don't know, seems like we're just two or three plays off to win 10+ more games. Frustrating...

All about late game execution. We're talking three turnovers in a 5 point game.

Hopefully Kidd will be back soon. Roddy played like shit and was light-years ahead of West. That's simply not good enough.
Just like West and Haywood was suppose to cure what ailed the team, Kidd coming back isn't going to solve anything. This team doesn't have a fight left in them.
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At least we had a great third quarter, yay!
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We string together a few good defensive and offensive plays and then someone makes a bone headed play that totally kills momentum. Their is no flow with us, no team work. Dribble dribble philosophy at its best right now. I feel like we don't have that time off to really build with these "collection of players".
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why odom played only 4 minutes?
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- team chemistry is a mess (like i said before)
- Roddy is trash (realize it guys. The sooner the better)
- Mihnimi seems to give shit (a baby is great but he is a freakin pro, last time i checked. Just look at soldiers. They also have wifes and a family.)
- Wright is not a center
- Odom is trash (hopefully it was his last game in mavs uni)
- Kidd is old like shiat (we need him NOW)
- West looks more and more like a contract yr player who gives s* about passing (but i still like him to some degree)
- Haywood looks more and more like Damp/Diop combination (annoying, soft, inconsistent and injury prone. Guy missed the finals and is not really a part of the "core". Get rid of him together with VC and LO)

I feel sorry for Jet, Marion and Dirk. great guys. It must be SO DAMN frustrating for them to be surrounded with such a soft/immature/old trash.

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Just like West and Haywood was suppose to cure what ailed the team, Kidd coming back isn't going to solve anything. This team doesn't have a fight left in them.
I agree. Every play we make on the court looks like a struggle for us. Their is no hunger, just settling for the bare minimum.
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I hope Carlisle starts Brendan Wright from here on out. The dude is a baller. Mavs need that athleticism from the get go. And if you watch Dirk kind of feeds off of that because teams have to respect his ability to score around the rim. So Dirk gets a little bit more room to operate.
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You can't expect West and Haywood's return to fix things when we turn around and lose Kidd & Mahinmi - it's not their individual skillsets that we lacked as much as the depth they provide...
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I feel sorry for Marion and Dirk. great guys.
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- team chemistry is a mess (like i said before)
- Roddy is trash (realize it guys. The sooner the better)
- Mihnimi seems to give shit (a baby is great but he is a freakin pro, last time i checked. Just look at soldiers. They also have wifes and a family.)
- Wright is not a center
- Odom is trash (hopefully it was his last game in mavs uni)
- Kidd is old like shiat (we need him NOW)
- West looks more and more like a contract yr player who gives s* about passing (but i still like him to some degree)
- Haywood looks more and more like Damp/Diop combination (annoying, soft, inconsistent and injury prone. Guy missed the finals and is not really a part of the "core". Get rid of him together with VC and LO)

I feel sorry for Jet, Marion and Dirk. great guys.
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I definitely feel like Wright affects the spacing on offense. It seems like teams are starting to focus more defensive attention on the paint when he's in and not cheating so much on the perimeter. Felt like against Portland last night that wasn't the case when Haywood was in the game at the end where there was a possession or two when the Blazers were guarding the Dirk and Terry Pick-and-Pop with three defenders.
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I don't know. The last defensive possessions were great! But it doesn't help if you're going to throw away the ball immediately. We scored two points in over three clutch minutes and took only two shots and two FTAs.

Last years squad would have easily scored 10.
Carlisle's philosophy...play the game close and win the 50/50 balls. It doesn't work well the older the team is because hustling leads to fatigue and fatigue leads to dumb plays.

And no I'm not blaming Carlisle at all. But Popovich played it right. Speed up the offense because playing defense takes the legs out of an older team. Now a couple years with good drafting, and some nice trades later, the Spurs are a legit threat to win.
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Carlisle's philosophy...play the game close and win the 50/50 balls. It doesn't work well the older the team is because hustling leads to fatigue and fatigue leads to dumb plays.

And no I'm not blaming Carlisle at all. But Popovich played it right. Speed up the offense because playing defense takes the legs out of an older team. Now a couple years with good drafting, and some nice trades later, the Spurs are a legit threat to win.
They were the first seed last year too with great offense and little defense. Didn't went that well, I'd say.

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Not necessarily. They will have trouble with Memphis, LA, OKC... just like the Mavs will.
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- team chemistry is a mess (like i said before)
- Roddy is trash (realize it guys. The sooner the better)
- Mihnimi seems to give shit (a baby is great but he is a freakin pro, last time i checked. Just look at soldiers. They also have wifes and a family.)
- Wright is not a center
- Odom is trash (hopefully it was his last game in mavs uni)
- Kidd is old like shiat (we need him NOW)
- West looks more and more like a contract yr player who gives s* about passing (but i still like him to some degree)
- Haywood looks more and more like Damp/Diop combination (annoying, soft, inconsistent and injury prone. Guy missed the finals and is not really a part of the "core". Get rid of him together with VC and LO)

I feel sorry for Jet, Marion and Dirk. great guys. It must be SO DAMN frustrating for them to be surrounded with such a soft/immature/old trash.
I do too...Dirk, Kidd, Terry and Marion where at the top of the NBA mountain and now there at the bottom again.
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I do too...Dirk, Kidd, Terry and Marion where at the top of the NBA mountain and now there at the bottom again.
Some players never get to the top. I'm sure they'll be fine. They have the hardware.
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Carlisle's philosophy...play the game close and win the 50/50 balls. It doesn't work well the older the team is because hustling leads to fatigue and fatigue leads to dumb plays.

And no I'm not blaming Carlisle at all. But Popovich played it right. Speed up the offense because playing defense takes the legs out of an older team. Now a couple years with good drafting, and some nice trades later, the Spurs are a legit threat to win.
Well have to see. The same not play defense spurs got it handed to them.
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The most awkward play was Dirk's second turnover with about a minute to go. Carlisle had instructed the players to call a timeout, but Dirk didn't hear or didn't listen (unlikely) and threw the ball away again.
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Volatile is the best word I can think in terms of the Mavs. Once they get their offense going, the defense slips. They can string some stops together, then they can't throw a penny into the ocean.

Getting continuity in the final stretch is going to be nearly impossible based on how injuries and etc have derailed the team. They'll just have to hope they survive and make the most of it.

I can only imagine what Dirk is thinking after having another critical pass go awry.
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They were the first seed last year too with great offense and little defense. Didn't went that well, I'd say.
Injured Manu was the biggest reason, tbh.

This year's team is quite different than last year's. They pick and choose their spots defensively this year. Check out their stats for crunch time defense this year. It's quite impressive.

Basically, they conserve energy for 3 quarters by winning with offense, and clamp down defensively late in the game.
• Is San Antonio’s crunch-time defense for real?

The Spurs are an offensive juggernaut, but they rank just 13th in points allowed per possession. Even with Boris Diaw aboard, teams with two imposing big men figure to give San Antonio trouble — unless coach Gregg Popovich unleashes the seldom-used Tiago Splitter/Tim Duncan duo for extended minutes against such a team in the postseason.

But in crunch time, San Antonio’s defense has been ridiculously stingy (hat tip to Matt Moore of CBSSports.com for discovering this). In the last five minutes of games with a scoring margin of five or fewer points, San Antonio has yielded just 91.5 points per 100 possessions, the best mark in the league, according to NBA.com. Cut the time and margin to three minutes/three points, and the number drops to 78.1 points allowed per 100 possessions, also tops in the league.
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Welp, just about time we could really use a point guard again.
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Not necessarily. They will have trouble with Memphis, LA, OKC... just like the Mavs will.
Maybe, but the Spurs are 3-0 against Memphis this year, and 2-1 against OKC. They haven't played LA yet.
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