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Old 10-14-2002, 02:06 PM   #1
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Dirk and Nash got 3.8% each of the GM votes for "Best Pure shooter"
Dirk was also on the list for "Best Basketball Instincts" and Nash for "Best Ballhandling"
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Old 10-14-2002, 02:07 PM   #2
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Old 10-14-2002, 02:07 PM   #3
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best pure shooter is without a doubt reggie miller,all the way,than you can call steve and dirk and ray allen.
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you were too slow NP...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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lol,yea,next time drbio,i'll be lurkin.
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It wasn't a question guy's [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

No, but the GM's said Ray Allen was number one, followed by Peja, Reggie, Houston then tie Dirk, Nash and Curry
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Reggie can nail him, but I have never thought of his shot as "pure" it's a bit of a line drive. I thought Dennis Scott had a extremely PURE shot.
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now thats just stupid,steve has a better three than peja,much better,with allen its closer,but peja???? come'on.
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Old 10-14-2002, 02:21 PM   #9
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Peja's 3 is pretty good.
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Reggie Miller is the games best shooter for players who are active.

Historically I go with Pistol Pete Maravich at #1 and Larry Legend at #2....Reggie would be in that top 5-10 list for sure IMO.

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historicly i'll go with jerry west.
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Old 10-14-2002, 03:37 PM   #13
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did you guy's ever see Scott in Orlando? That year 95-96, he was awesome, set record for 3's in a game (11) and season (267) Those numbers are unbreakable!
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11 is breakable,i think redd nailed 8 against us or something like that,gets close.
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yea, 11 is I guess, just hard to. But I don't know about 267.
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<< did you guy's ever see Scott in Orlando? That year 95-96, he was awesome, set record for 3's in a game (11) and season (267) Those numbers are unbreakable! >>



the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.
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Old 10-14-2002, 04:15 PM   #17
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Hey Doc...I thought Pistol Pete had a Iversonesqu shooting percentage? I just thought I had heard that before. Correct me if I'm wrong...or too young! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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Old 10-14-2002, 04:18 PM   #18
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naaa,im not doc but i still gotta take this,pete got good percantages,not amazin but good,on the otherheand,j.west was amazing.
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Pistol Pete rarely missed as I recall. One of the best shooters I have ever seen.
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he wasnt better than west!thats what im saying,wesy was something else,simply something else.
he was in a different level than anybody else.
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perusing back into this thread I see nowhere that it said that....but it is your opinion. Many may likely bring up names that are not currently listed here.
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Pistol Pete without a doubt the best, better than west...Oscar Robinson the big O would be right there as well.
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&quot;the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.&quot;

LMAO, You most of NEVER watched him play, or at least never watched him play b/f he came here, lol! Yea, he set about 5 ACC records, including leading Georgia Tech to Final Four, avg. over 27 PPG IN HIS JUNIOR YEAR OF COLLEGE! For a big time college, 27 ppg is insane! He started about half his career, so that's wrong. Despite a few awful years, still has a career ppg over 12. He avg. 17.5 and 19.5 ppg in spereate years. do bench warmers avg. near 20 ppg?????? He nailed over 100 3's in about 6, 7 years. Even w/ a shorter line, 267 is A LOT! He finished runner up in 3 point contest. Im sorry, but I was a big Scott fan, and your comment made you sound a lot stupider then you are, because I know your a smart guy.
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Excellent choice on the original &quot;Big O&quot; pepperfletch...excellent choice!
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Nash and Dirk should have gotten some more votes, Houston and Curry none, they don´t have the stats to go with their shooting technique. Also guys like Steve Smith, John Barry and Piatkowski should have made the list.
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100!% agreement fidel. Houston is overatted. Where's the love for either Barry or Pia, Pia can shoot!
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if you put oscar than gervin should get some room too.
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<< &quot;the 3 pt line was also a lot closer that year. its a skewed record.

scott is nothing more than a glorified bench warmer.&quot;

LMAO, You most of NEVER watched him play, or at least never watched him play b/f he came here, lol! Yea, he set about 5 ACC records, including leading Georgia Tech to Final Four, avg. over 27 PPG IN HIS JUNIOR YEAR OF COLLEGE! For a big time college, 27 ppg is insane! He started about half his career, so that's wrong. Despite a few awful years, still has a career ppg over 12. He avg. 17.5 and 19.5 ppg in spereate years. do bench warmers avg. near 20 ppg?????? He nailed over 100 3's in about 6, 7 years. Even w/ a shorter line, 267 is A LOT! He finished runner up in 3 point contest. Im sorry, but I was a big Scott fan, and your comment made you sound a lot stupider then you are, because I know your a smart guy.
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what has scott accomplished in the nba besides shooting 3's? nothing. if shooting threes makes you a &quot;pure shooter&quot; then fine you can consider him that, but even when he played with the mavs he stunk.

kurt thomas averaged over 32 pts a game his senior year of college, that doesnt make him a great pure shooter. i stand by what i said, scott is a bench warmer and nothing special. i'm just saying if you want to point out that he made 267 threes in 95-96, i will point out that the line is over 2 ft closer, and about the same distance as the college line. i believe danny ferry also had career highs that year in 3 pt shots, and nobody mentions him as a great pure shooter.
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Yes, but danny ferry doesn't have a 40% CAREER 3 PT % OR OVER 1000 3'S!!!
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<< Yes, but danny ferry doesn't have a 40% CAREER 3 PT % OR OVER 1000 3'S!!! >>



oh lord. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

like i said the large majority of the time he racked up his 3pters were when the line was moved in 2 ft from its current position.

i pulled up some numbers of the greatest shooter of all time dennis scott

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dennis....html?nav=page

seems our man is a career 41%FG shooter and a career 40%FG shooter.

if you take out his 3pt makes he only shot 43% from the field from under the 3pt. line.

class...what does this tell us?

i don't know, but i can tell you, it means hes not the best PURE shooter of all time.
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i never said best, but top 20.
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may be splitting hairs here UberDirk, but you said his records couldn't be broken...to me that indicates your calling him the best ever.

Just a thought.
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I still don't think 267 can be broken, closer 3 point line or not. do you?
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when you launch close to 650 3's, then yes i think its possible.

ESPECIALLY if the line is moved 2 ft closer. Hell, I think Dirk, Fin, or nash could do it. And thats just on the mavs.
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if you think any of them, even my man dirk, would of had a chance at 267, your a moron. p.s., mike played that year and mike wouldn't of got more then 150 3's! Nash, mabye 190, dirk mabye 200-210. None would of gotten 267. There were hundreds of other guy's that year, not one of them got close to 267. P.s., yes, 3-d led the nba in 3's that year, BUT DIDN'T led the nba in 3's attempted, also shot 41% from downton, higher then mike ever has.
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and if you think all these people could do it, why did NO nba player come close in 95-96????
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I like the Oscar call too...Oscar Schmidt!

Remember that Magic and Bird both called him the best shooter they had ever seen.

How about a Mark Price note...I hated the guy but you gotta look at his three pt, ft, and fg percentage.

As for Pistol Pete I find his percentage at .441 according to http://www.corpcomm.net/~gjjensen/jesse/pistol.html

The Big O's stats can be found at
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<< and if you think all these people could do it, why did NO nba player come close in 95-96???? >>



because nobody is STUPID ENOUGH to launch 650 3 point shots!

if you are going to call me a moron, i would highly suggest you look up the following:

&quot;those who live in glass houses, ought not throw stones&quot;

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Y'all've gotten this far and nobody has mentioned Steve Kerr?

Incredible.
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Im sorry, but how do you equate your numbers??? LMAO! How is 628 650??? LOL! And p.s. smart one, actually two guy's that year attemped MORE 3 POINTERS THEN SCOTT, and neither had close to 267! Done, you lose.
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