Bush approval ratings

[Usually Lurkin]

are back up:
from www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Poll..................Date................Approve. .....Disapprove...Spread
RCP Average 09/11 - 09/17.......41.3%.....54.3%........-13.0%
USA Today/Gallup 09/15 - 09/17.....44%......51%.......-7%
Rasmussen 09/14 - 09/16...............41%.......57%.......-16%
FOX News 09/12 - 09/13................40%.......49%.......-9%
AP-Ipsos 09/11 - 09/13..................40%.......60%.......-20%

now, where's that graph linking presidential approval to gas prices?

[capitalcity]

[MSM]Sweep. Under. Rug[/MSM]

[George Gervin]

straw man..

the entire MSM was blaming bush for the gas prices? oh wait your using the GOP's infamous 'straw man' to make a point.. I have always wonder who exactly Bush is talking about when he uses "they', "some people" when arguing with himself.. I will give the GOP credit this straw man/men seem to be a bad person..or persons.. or whomever they are..

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by George Gervin

straw man..

the entire MSM was blaming bush for the gas prices? oh wait your using the GOP's infamous 'straw man' to make a point.. I have always wonder who exactly Bush is talking about when he uses "they', "some people" when arguing with himself.. I will give the GOP credit this straw man/men seem to be a bad person..or persons.. or whomever they are..

GG, this post is pretty incoherent.

[George Gervin]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

GG, this post is pretty incoherent.

well so is the MSM remark..I would just love to find out who exactly people are referring to when they make these ridiculous remarks.. the MSM... can you be a little more specific ? is it one person? 10 persons? a magazine? a news station? 10 news stations? broadcast network? something specific? I find it intellectually lazy to make such broad and generalizing comments when trying to make a point..

[capitalcity]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

GG, this post is pretty incoherent.

Lower your expectations... he's a busy parent.

And a spares fan.

[capitalcity]

You posted a story from the Times yesterday.

[George Gervin]

Well I certainly can admit the Times does have a liberal slant but to indict the entire media industry is silly. I give you more credit than that capcity.. you know as well as I do this straw man argument has gotten out of hand..

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by George Gervin

well so is the MSM remark..I would just love to find out who exactly people are referring to when they make these ridiculous remarks.. the MSM... can you be a little more specific ? is it one person? 10 persons? a magazine? a news station? 10 news stations? broadcast network? something specific? I find it intellectually lazy to make such broad and generalizing comments when trying to make a point..

that makes a little more sense. Are you arguing that you can't see a reason for the label Main Stream Media, that the label itself is not useful, or are you arguing that the Main Stream Media is not politically biased?

What did you mean by
"the entire MSM was blaming bush for the gas prices? "
in your earlier post?

[George Gervin]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

that makes a little more sense. Are you arguing that you can't see a reason for the label Main Stream Media, that the label itself is not useful, or are you arguing that the Main Stream Media is not politically biased?

What did you mean by
"the entire MSM was blaming bush for the gas prices? "
in your earlier post?

First of all I realize Bush has nothing to do with gas prices. His approval ratings may suffer because of this but to blame it on the media is lazy and inaccurate. He gets credit for things he has nothing to with and vice versa. That's the nature of Bush's or any President's job.

[Usually Lurkin]

GG, I don't think anyone was blaming the relationship between gas prices and approval ratings on the media, just that the media aren't trumpeting the rise in approval ratings like they did the decline.

Here's that picture:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...s-prices_x.htm


and it's a recent one. This is so fascinating to me because of what it implies:
1) people are so simple that they would vote a president in or out of office based on gas prices.
2) approval ratings are real, but people don't vote based on their approval
3) polls like these measure something less meaningful than what people really make decisions about

of course, less interestingly maybe, there's another factor driving both.

[jacktruth]

I was in San Diego this last week and in anti-Aunald adds, they were very explicitly blaming Bush for gas prices.

[kg_veteran]

Originally Posted by jacktruth

I was in San Diego this last week and in anti-Aunald adds, they were very explicitly blaming Bush for gas prices.

Aren't gas prices dropping? They certainly are here.

[Mavdog]

now the conspiracy theory is the way that the price of gas is decreasing just as we gear up for fall elections....

[Flacolaco]

I saw gas for $2.07 in lewisville last night....

[jacktruth]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

Aren't gas prices dropping? They certainly are here.

Yes, thier dropping out there. They are higher, but are dropping at the same rate.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Mavdog

now the conspiracy theory is the way that the price of gas is decreasing just as we gear up for fall elections....

I actually heard a poll quoted on the radio last week as finding that some large percentage of people (around 50%?) believed the price drop is motivated by republicans for the purpose of the elections

[Mavdog]

50%???? my gosh that's incredible.

but then I shouldn't be surprised. these are very gullible people out there....

[Ninkobei]

Does anyone have the approval ratings of congress? just curious..

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Ninkobei

Does anyone have the approval ratings of congress? just curious..

realclearpolitics.com/polls/
is the best site in the world for this kinda stuff:

Generic Congressional Vote

Poll Date Republican Democrat Spread
RCP Average 09/11 - 09/19 39.8% 48.2% 8.4%
LA Times/Bloomberg 09/16 - 09/19 39% 49% 10%
CBS News/NY Times 09/15 - 09/19 35% 50% 15%
USA Today/Gallup 09/15 - 09/17 48% 48% 0%
FOX News 09/12 - 09/13 38% 41% 3%
AP-Ipsos 09/11 - 09/13 39% 53% 14%


Congressional Job Approval
Poll Date Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 09/07 - 09/19 27.0% 61.2% -34.2%
LA Times/Bloomberg 09/16 - 09/19 30% 57% -27%
CBS News/NY Times 09/15 - 09/19 25% 61% -36%
FOX News 09/12 - 09/13 29% 53% -24%
AP-Ipsos 09/11 - 09/13 29% 68% -39%
NBC/WSJ 09/08 - 09/11 20% 65% -45%
Gallup 09/07 - 09/10 29% 63% -34%

[Drbio]

$2.07? Awesome. It is still around $2.20 here which is typically one of the lowest gas prices in the state.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by Drbio

$2.07? Awesome. It is still around $2.20 here which is typically one of the lowest gas prices in the state.

Saw it at $1.99 where I am at. Guess where -- Wal-Mart

[Drbio]

But wait a minute.....I thought Mavdog and his ilk told us that Walmart was the devil.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by Drbio

But wait a minute.....I thought Mavdog and his ilk told us that Walmart was the devil.

Well, it might be because this is Alice's store and she didn't like paying over $2/gal, but I'll take it at the present time.

And yes, I have met/know Alice Walton -- she doesn't seem to be a "devil" at all. Maybe a little too much of a boozer, but not a "devil".

[Drbio]

Geography has its privileges.