04-08-2022, 01:57 PM
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4:20 Trailblaze it (actual game is at 7:30)
Chriss is sick
Kleber has a twisted ankle (questionable)
THJ out for season
Dunn, Winslow, Bledsoe, Hart, Simons, Nurkic, Walford, Lillard, Ingles, Zeller, Little all listed as out for the Blazers.
Blazers are 0-9 and 2-19.
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04-08-2022, 07:06 PM
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Kleber ruled out. Chriss too.
Mavs real small
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04-08-2022, 08:11 PM
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Not going to defend this guy
Just dumb and he brings this crap on himself by constantly complaining
If the Warriors lose a game and the Mavs lose to San Antonio this is going to be the most selfish act I've seen
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04-08-2022, 08:17 PM
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Bertans is rediscovering his stroke at the exact right time.
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04-08-2022, 09:02 PM
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That's a pointless complaint from Luka. But FFS Brpthers is garbage already and that was absolutelynot a tech. Perd
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04-08-2022, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Not going to defend this guy
Just dumb and he brings this crap on himself by constantly complaining
If the Warriors lose a game and the Mavs lose to San Antonio this is going to be the most selfish act I've seen
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Oh come on, that was a completely bullshit tech. He definitely complains too much and deserves criticism for it, but that one was just a ref abusing his power.
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04-08-2022, 09:12 PM
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04-08-2022, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Oh come on, that was a completely bullshit tech. He definitely complains too much and deserves criticism for it, but that one was just a ref abusing his power.
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I think your missing the point here
He was already on the edge
Why even bother to complain when your up by 20 Points?
It literally wasn't going to change the outcome of this game so you have to just walk away in that situation knowing they are watching you.
So ask yourself if Golden St loses and Luka can't play Sunday vs the Spurs was it really worth the argument by him up 20 points
Last edited by Dallas41; 04-08-2022 at 09:15 PM.
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04-08-2022, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
I think your missing the point here
He was already on the edge
Why even bother to complain when your up by 20 Points?
It literally wasn't going to change the outcome of this game so you have to just walk away in that situation knowing they are watching you.
So ask yourself if Golden St loses and Luka can't play Sunday vs the Spurs was it really worth the argument by him up 20 points
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Agree with this.
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04-08-2022, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
I think your missing the point here
He was already on the edge
Why even bother to complain when your up by 20 Points?
It literally wasn't going to change the outcome of this game so you have to just walk away in that situation knowing they are watching you.
So ask yourself if Golden St loses and Luka can't play Sunday vs the Spurs was it really worth the argument by him up 20 points
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I get it. But still, doesn't change the fact that that was a bullshit tech.
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04-08-2022, 09:33 PM
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Once Luka learns discipline in his game, physique, and against the officials, then he will be the bet player in the nba by a good margin.
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04-08-2022, 10:32 PM
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Silver: teams don’t play their stars enough and it’s hurting tickets and $
Also Silver: let the refs eliminate player just because they are arguing a call
Silver and the refs just cost 20,000 people the ability to see the one star the Mavs have in the final game of the season
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04-08-2022, 10:43 PM
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I don't care if Luka only deserved 12 of his 16 techs. He put the team in this position by continually bitching at refs despite knowing (and publicly acknowledging several times) that he had to stop. There was a whole season of this that has now come home to roost.
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04-08-2022, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I don't care if Luka only deserved 12 of his 16 techs. He put the team in this position by continually bitching at refs despite knowing (and publicly acknowledging several times) that he had to stop. There was a whole season of this that has now come home to roost.
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I care.
Luka bitches too much. But that was an absolutely ridiculous, inexcusable tech, and that ref abused his power. Both of those things can be true.
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04-08-2022, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
I care.
Luka bitches too much. But that was an absolutely ridiculous, inexcusable tech, and that ref abused his power. Both of those things can be true.
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Absolutely. Also, I rewatched it and Luka got fouled twice on the play! I think Luka sold the shove a little but he got hit on the shoulder/arm and then got nudged on his lower back while he leapt.
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04-08-2022, 10:50 PM
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Sixteen actually seems shockingly low to me. If I didn’t already know how many he had from hearing the running tally every game and from knowing the rules, I might have guessed 40 just from how often it seems to happen.
We’re just going to have to get used to this, would be my guess.
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04-08-2022, 10:51 PM
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The fucked up thing is that the refs play favorites
Lebron complains and not only does he not get a tech, the refs change the call
https://youtu.be/LYoolQ25hAg
Doncic has a level-headed and respectful argument with zero profanity and he gets teched up.
NBA has a real credibility problem
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04-08-2022, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Silver: teams don’t play their stars enough and it’s hurting tickets and $
Also Silver: let the refs eliminate player just because they are arguing a call
Silver and the refs just cost 20,000 people the ability to see the one star the Mavs have in the final game of the season
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Someone forgot to tell Tony Brothers he’s not a star.
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04-08-2022, 10:53 PM
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I think it’s possible that this one could be rescinded, though. It didn’t look like much.
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04-08-2022, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshJive
I think it’s possible that this one could be rescinded, though. It didn’t look like much.
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If there’s any Justice it will be
It was weaker than 90% of the reactions in the game and 99% of Luka’s techs. Luka was being friendly and as the star, asked what the ref was looking for. Ref was just triggered and emotional.
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04-08-2022, 11:43 PM
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Honesty time? Brothers totally did flub the call. Luka was fouled 4-5 times on that play and Luka was right. Shove, handcheck, grab, and then undercutting the shooter.
Also you can criticize him for laying down but it was at the end of the quarter. It wasn’t a delay of game.
https://youtu.be/dPGXds6Ep3U
It’s bullshit how inconsistent refs are and it’s bullshit that Kidd couldn’t challenge the five non-calls because you can only challenge actual calls.
I know it’s moot since we wrecked them by 50, but NBA has a real problem with consistency, making right calls, and allowing players to show emotion. Games are boring now because one sign of passion and it’s an ejection. Sorry bucko, emotion and passion is strictly forbidden without the express written consent of Adam Silver.
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04-09-2022, 01:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tap2390
I don't care if Luka only deserved 12 of his 16 techs. He put the team in this position by continually bitching at refs despite knowing (and publicly acknowledging several times) that he had to stop. There was a whole season of this that has now come home to roost.
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This is my take as well
We all love Luka but let's not pretend like dude hasn't been in the league long enough now to know the ref's aren't going to cut him any slack.
He admitted it himself that he complains too much and then he stated he was going to just start singing songs in his head.
The guy is always flirting with 16 techs every single year.
Dwight Powell gets knocked upside the damn head every game sometimes he'll plead his case to the refs and sometimes dude just plays on through it.
Luka has had two coaches now who both have basically asked him to chill out or tone it down.
The issue I had with this tech again goes back to the game situation they were by like 20 points it's not going to change the outcome of the game if the ref's miss that call. You simply can't afford to risk it (getting a tech) in that situation.
Mark Cuban didn't win that battle after he spent years going after the ref's and doubt Luka ever wins that battle.
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04-09-2022, 07:43 AM
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OK, but this excuse by one of the worst refs ever certainly boosts Luka's case. 15 feet in the back court? Wtf?
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/st...35645344235523
The league won't do anything to fix the reffing...ever. Even if Luka didn't complain, that player fouled him like three times without a call. When will it stop?
I agree that Luka just makes it worse for himself by overly complaining, but that doesn't mean it should be OK to just let refs be awful.
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04-09-2022, 09:12 AM
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OK, but this excuse by one of the worst refs ever certainly boosts Luka's case. 15 feet in the back court? Wtf?
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/st...35645344235523
The league won't do anything to fix the reffing...ever. Even if Luka didn't complain, that player fouled him like three times without a call. When will it stop?
I agree that Luka just makes it worse for himself by overly complaining, but that doesn't mean it should be OK to just let refs be awful.
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Exactly. Again, both things can be true.
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04-09-2022, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Silver: teams don’t play their stars enough and it’s hurting tickets and $
Also Silver: let the refs eliminate player just because they are arguing a call
Silver and the refs just cost 20,000 people the ability to see the one star the Mavs have in the final game of the season
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True. They will be lucky to have 3/4 in attendance because of this.
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04-09-2022, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Honesty time? Brothers totally did flub the call. Luka was fouled 4-5 times on that play and Luka was right. Shove, handcheck, grab, and then undercutting the shooter.
Also you can criticize him for laying down but it was at the end of the quarter. It wasn’t a delay of game.
https://youtu.be/dPGXds6Ep3U
It’s bullshit how inconsistent refs are and it’s bullshit that Kidd couldn’t challenge the five non-calls because you can only challenge actual calls.
I know it’s moot since we wrecked them by 50, but NBA has a real problem with consistency, making right calls, and allowing players to show emotion. Games are boring now because one sign of passion and it’s an ejection. Sorry bucko, emotion and passion is strictly forbidden without the express written consent of Adam Silver.
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Fouled once across the right arm and waist on reach in. Fouled again on the left shoulder. Then undercut where his left foot was clearly clipped and maybe on His lower back. Idc about the other techs, you can't expect to blow 3 consecutive fouls in a 3 second span right in front of you and the player not have a problem with it. If that player isn't making gestures or cursing over the top, then it's not a tech. If the league has any integrity they will admit there were blown calls and rescind the tech.
On the same note, if my star has 15 techs, as a coach or teammate I'm pulling Luka away and bitching about it myself.
It's laughable that a ref wouldn't call blatant obvious fouls because a team is getting their asses blasted. It's sad if he really didn't see any of them.
Im all for blaming Luka for getting some of the techs he has gotten but ffs this isn't one of them.
You mean to tell me that Brothers didn't know he had 15 techs??? And that he didn't see 1 single foul in the span? F out.
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04-09-2022, 06:45 PM
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Glad to see the NBA rescind that awful tech. I think that, since his 14th tech, Luka has done a good job of showing restraint. Tony Brothers has not. Looks to me like he was trying to make a point at Luka's and the Mav's expense. He's already tossed Kidd for defending Luka, and I'm sure he knew that tech would cost the Mavs a chance at rising to third place. That is exactly the time a ref should swallow his whistle, instead of making himself the center of attention.. Apparently, the league agrees with me.
If you are a ref and everybody knows your name, you are doing something wrong.
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