These are the type of people who have taken control of the DEM party

[FishForLunch]

The root of all suffering is the Bush administration
By Linda S. Heard, Special to Gulf News



The Israeli government is behaving like an abused child who grows up to be a mass-murdering psychopath. There is one difference though. Whereas the courts would put the psychopath behind bars, Israel's starry stripy uncle pats it on the back and hands it satellite guided missiles with which to kill more women, children, UN peacekeepers and fruit pickers.

This is madness!

Yet what does the international community do? The answer is nothing at all except procrastinate for weeks before coming up with a draft UN resolution heavily biased in Israel's favour.

This was deemed "unacceptable" by the Lebanese government because it allowed Israeli troops to remain on Lebanese soil.

Worse, provisions concerning foreign troops mandated to assist the Lebanese army in disarming Hezbollah are nothing short of a recipe for civil war.

The root of all this suffering is the Bush administration, which has crudely and disingenuously labelled Israel's conflict with Hezbollah as one element of its "war on terror". It has single handedly transformed a local conflict into a regional war as a milestone on its birthing a new Middle East.

Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry, has sunk his teeth firmly into this label and refers to Hezbollah as a terrorist jihadist group.

In reality, Hezbollah is a grassroots organisation supported by 87 per cent of all Lebanese, according to two recent Lebanese polls.

As CNN's Jim Clancy pointed out from Beirut, the Lebanese people are shocked at the destruction of their cities and angry not only at the Israelis but also at the US and Britain for allowing this misery to continue.

This war could have ended weeks ago if the tin-pot emperor of "the free world" had lifted his little finger. Instead, like the man who used a mallet to kill a fly on his friend's head, Bush gave free rein to Israel to quash Hezbollah no matter how many Lebanese civilians are destroyed in the process.

Bush may have got away with sending Afghanistan back to the Stone Age and turning Iraq into a living hell, but this time he has seriously miscalculated.

The destruction of Lebanon has elicited worldwide outrage and exposed American pro-Israel bias as never before.

There has been a backlash against Israel with calls to boycott Israeli products. There have been swastikas daubed on Jewish-owned shops in Rome, while Turkish legislators have pulled out from a Turkish-Israeli friendship association.

Ireland has asked an Israeli movie-maker to refrain from attending a showing of his film. The Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has compared the Israeli campaign to Hitler's. An American Muslim angry over Lebanon walked into an American Jewish centre and began indiscriminately shooting people.

Perhaps more worryingly for Israel, its almost mythical deterrent power has been eradicated. Israel's enemies have witnessed its vulnerability. They are no doubt saying to themselves "if a small militia can inflict this amount of damage on the regional superpower, then we no longer have to be afraid?"

Laughing stock

Israeli military and intelligence has also become a laughing stock after launching what Israel calls "a daring raid" on a deserted hospital, its elite commandos returning with a middle-aged vegetable seller whose only claim to fame was sharing a name with Hassan Nasrallah.

What on earth has Israel gained apart from global disgust?

Hezbollah, conversely, has garnered support not only domestically among Shiites, Sunnis and Christians but also worldwide.

Last weekend, up to 100,000 protestors walked through the streets of central London many carrying images of the Hezbollah leader. Demonstrators on the streets of Arab capitals are hailing Nasrallah as the new Jamal Abdul Nasser.

The Lebanese prime minister who swept to power on the back of the pro-American Cedar Revolution has snubbed US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and thanked Hezbollah for defending his country.

The vicious attack on Lebanon has infuriated the Arab League, including those members who initially pointed fingers at Hezbollah.

Secretary-General of the Arab League Amr Moussa flew into Beirut as Israeli bombs were falling on its suburbs and complained about US double standard that "are killing the people of this region and agitating them".

Moussa has hit the nail on the head. If the US administration behaved like an honest broker, Israel might even be driven to take up the offer of peace fielded by the Saudis in 2004.

When will Israelis realise that the only way they can achieve security is to work hard to achieve a Palestinian state and make peace with their neighbours?

The Bush brigade is no friend to Tel Aviv. Its suited members sit in their air-conditioned offices, directing Israel in its proxy war from afar.

It would be a different story if Americans were dying instead of Israelis. There would be a few holidays in The Hamptons cancelled then.

There may be something more sinister involved.

There have been leaks to the effect Israel planned this war on Hezbollah an ally of Iran and Syria and was waiting for a pretext.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh and others believe the US has plans to attack Iran.

Last year, the US president hinted Israel might bomb Iran to take out its nuclear facilities.

Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair recently warned Syria and Iran of the risk of confrontation.

I'll leave it to you to join the dots.

Linda S. Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be contacted at lheard@gulfnews.com

[dude1394]

Since Israel is so "psychopath", maybe they should quite screwing around and just drop the big on on iran and be done with this crapola. It appears it's going to have to happen anyway.

[mkat]

Originally Posted by FishForLunch

The root of all suffering is the Bush administration
By Linda S. Heard, Special to Gulf News



The Israeli government is behaving like an abused child who grows up to be a mass-murdering psychopath. There is one difference though. Whereas the courts would put the psychopath behind bars, Israel's starry stripy uncle pats it on the back and hands it satellite guided missiles with which to kill more women, children, UN peacekeepers and fruit pickers.

This is madness!

Yet what does the international community do? The answer is nothing at all except procrastinate for weeks before coming up with a draft UN resolution heavily biased in Israel's favour.

This was deemed "unacceptable" by the Lebanese government because it allowed Israeli troops to remain on Lebanese soil.

Worse, provisions concerning foreign troops mandated to assist the Lebanese army in disarming Hezbollah are nothing short of a recipe for civil war.

The root of all this suffering is the Bush administration, which has crudely and disingenuously labelled Israel's conflict with Hezbollah as one element of its "war on terror". It has single handedly transformed a local conflict into a regional war as a milestone on its birthing a new Middle East.

Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli foreign ministry, has sunk his teeth firmly into this label and refers to Hezbollah as a terrorist jihadist group.

In reality, Hezbollah is a grassroots organisation supported by 87 per cent of all Lebanese, according to two recent Lebanese polls.

As CNN's Jim Clancy pointed out from Beirut, the Lebanese people are shocked at the destruction of their cities and angry not only at the Israelis but also at the US and Britain for allowing this misery to continue.

This war could have ended weeks ago if the tin-pot emperor of "the free world" had lifted his little finger. Instead, like the man who used a mallet to kill a fly on his friend's head, Bush gave free rein to Israel to quash Hezbollah no matter how many Lebanese civilians are destroyed in the process.

Bush may have got away with sending Afghanistan back to the Stone Age and turning Iraq into a living hell, but this time he has seriously miscalculated.

The destruction of Lebanon has elicited worldwide outrage and exposed American pro-Israel bias as never before.

There has been a backlash against Israel with calls to boycott Israeli products. There have been swastikas daubed on Jewish-owned shops in Rome, while Turkish legislators have pulled out from a Turkish-Israeli friendship association.

Ireland has asked an Israeli movie-maker to refrain from attending a showing of his film. The Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has compared the Israeli campaign to Hitler's. An American Muslim angry over Lebanon walked into an American Jewish centre and began indiscriminately shooting people.

Perhaps more worryingly for Israel, its almost mythical deterrent power has been eradicated. Israel's enemies have witnessed its vulnerability. They are no doubt saying to themselves "if a small militia can inflict this amount of damage on the regional superpower, then we no longer have to be afraid?"

Laughing stock

Israeli military and intelligence has also become a laughing stock after launching what Israel calls "a daring raid" on a deserted hospital, its elite commandos returning with a middle-aged vegetable seller whose only claim to fame was sharing a name with Hassan Nasrallah.

What on earth has Israel gained apart from global disgust?

Hezbollah, conversely, has garnered support not only domestically among Shiites, Sunnis and Christians but also worldwide.

Last weekend, up to 100,000 protestors walked through the streets of central London many carrying images of the Hezbollah leader. Demonstrators on the streets of Arab capitals are hailing Nasrallah as the new Jamal Abdul Nasser.

The Lebanese prime minister who swept to power on the back of the pro-American Cedar Revolution has snubbed US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and thanked Hezbollah for defending his country.

The vicious attack on Lebanon has infuriated the Arab League, including those members who initially pointed fingers at Hezbollah.

Secretary-General of the Arab League Amr Moussa flew into Beirut as Israeli bombs were falling on its suburbs and complained about US double standard that "are killing the people of this region and agitating them".

Moussa has hit the nail on the head. If the US administration behaved like an honest broker, Israel might even be driven to take up the offer of peace fielded by the Saudis in 2004.

When will Israelis realise that the only way they can achieve security is to work hard to achieve a Palestinian state and make peace with their neighbours?

The Bush brigade is no friend to Tel Aviv. Its suited members sit in their air-conditioned offices, directing Israel in its proxy war from afar.

It would be a different story if Americans were dying instead of Israelis. There would be a few holidays in The Hamptons cancelled then.

There may be something more sinister involved.

There have been leaks to the effect Israel planned this war on Hezbollah an ally of Iran and Syria and was waiting for a pretext.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh and others believe the US has plans to attack Iran.

Last year, the US president hinted Israel might bomb Iran to take out its nuclear facilities.

Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair recently warned Syria and Iran of the risk of confrontation.

I'll leave it to you to join the dots.

Linda S. Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be contacted at lheard@gulfnews.com

is Linda S. Heard 12?

honestly....arabic and palestinian terror isn't going to stop at the construction of a Palestinian state.

idealism is all well and good in philosophy classes, but let's be real.

israel has offered, MANY TIMES, land to the palestinians, and was nice enough to give back Gaza...and what do they do? they go and build more terror camps and say "we want ALL the land or none of it".

you don't fight Hezbollah with flowers and offers of land....

[mkat]

a proxy war? are you kidding me?

haha....yes. let's piss off some more arabic states...that way they won't give us our oil. i'm sure that's the US's plan.

not only that, but the US's involvment with Israel has never been as thick as the media plays it up to be.

[dude1394]

Unfortunately it's starting to look like Iran DOES need to get attacked. Nutty as fruitcakes and getting more dangerous by the day.

It will be pretty interesting let's say that Aug22 rolls around and the mullahs give a nuke to some of their nutcase terrorist hezbollah buddies to blowup on a saudi oilfield, or lob into the middle of Israel. Then see if we have the cajones to do anything about it.

[AxdemxO]

Listen to what this Jewish group has to say...and it is very very true. Muslims and Jews have lived together in peace for centuries, until Israel was created.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

[EricaLubarsky]

Jews and Muslims lived in peace for years, but dissolving Israel isnt going to stop the fanaticism of either the christian/jewish side or the muslim side.

Anyway, who is Linda S. Heard and why are you strawmanning her?

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Listen to what this Jewish group has to say...and it is very very true. Muslims and Jews have lived together in peace for centuries, until Israel was created.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

Well heck if we just let them kill all of thos jooos then we'll have some peace and quiet around there. Except of course for Iran and the rest of the islamics wanting to create a new caliphate. Then maybe we could let them overthrow the rest of the governments there and THEN we might get some peace.

And then if we let them get back their holy land in Spain, maybe THEN we could get some peace..Until they decide that the rest of the world needs to be muslim as well.

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Listen to what this Jewish group has to say...and it is very very true. Muslims and Jews have lived together in peace for centuries, until Israel was created.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

Here's an idea....move your ass to Lebanon since you love them so much and hate Israel blindly. Maybe there you will find someone who actually believes the kind of shit that you have been spewing here for weeks.

[Mavdog]

linda heard is (as far as I can tell) a british freelance writer. odd to call her a "dem" when she isn't even american...

she does make some valid points on how the military campaign is giving more credibility to hezbollah and actually improving their image among lebanese. most of her vitrol against israel is recycled crap about how they "mistreat" the poor terrorist which they fight against.

israel is merely a symbol. the islamist want a purity to their ancient lands which the presence of jews, christians, ba'hai or anyone not islamic violates. seems that there are even some muslims that aren't "pure" enough for them as well.

the problem is not the israelis, it is the mindset that says to kill anybody not muslim and that everyone should be under islamic law that is the problem.

[AxdemxO]

Well if u were not soo dumb you would relize that everything i have posted have been interviews and what people have to say from here. Soo obviously there are many people that see this the way i do here and not to mention around the world.

[AxdemxO]

The muslims there dont want to kill all the jews..there are probably some that do, but thn again you can find that in every religion. The muslims want the land thats Israel back and they want to create a muslim state in which they would have no problem lettin Jews and Christians live alongside as long as its considered muslim land.

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

The muslims there dont want to kill all the jews..there are probably some that do, but thn again you can find that in every religion. The muslims want the land thats Israel back and they want to create a muslim state in which they would have no problem lettin Jews and Christians live alongside as long as its considered muslim land.

What a crock of horseshit.

[AxdemxO]

Look back in history and tou will see that Muslims and Jews lived together in peace and equality in many muslim countries. When the problems started was whn Israel was created on muslim land and called a Jewish state. If Israel was a muslim country or if all of the land was Palastine then i can guarantee that Jews would be able to live there in peace just like before.

[capitalcity]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

When the problems started was whn Israel was created on muslim land and called a Jewish state.

Pretty sure it started when Abraham decided to bone Hagar.

But whatever. Your version plays alot better in pallywood.

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Look back in history and tou will see that Muslims and Jews lived together in peace and equality in many muslim countries. When the problems started was whn Israel was created on muslim land and called a Jewish state. If Israel was a muslim country or if all of the land was Palastine then i can guarantee that Jews would be able to live there in peace just like before.

More horseshit.

[AxdemxO]

Well obviously ur one ignorant person..sooo ur the horse shit.

[Drbio]

Yeah....everyone here is wrong but you. Idiot.

Why not go ahead and leave to jew-hater.com or where ever it is you prefer?

[dude1394]

Part III of Medveds column on jew-hating. The last one is a pretty nice refuatation of all the bull**** about the war-mongering jewish state.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/c...09/2006&page=2

III: ISRAEL’S SUCCESS – AND ALLEGEDLY “EXPANSIONIST” AND “IMPERIALIST” NATURE

In order to credit Islamist denunciations of an “Israeli Empire,” or worry that the perennially embattled Jewish state might indeed count as uniquely aggressive and power hungry, one must remain incurably ignorant not only of contemporary history but of rudimentary geography. The merest glance at a map reveals the incontrovertible fact that Israel remains, in every sense, a tiny nation. Egypt alone – representing only one of Israel’s twenty hostile Arab neighbors—is more than 48 times the land area of Israel. Adding together only the various Arab nations (without including other vast Islamic homelands like Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan), the Arabs control well over 300 times the area of the New Jersey-sized Jewish state. In other words, even before President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran succeeds (God forbid) in his plan to “wipe Israel from the map,” 99.7% of the Arab lands are already free of Jews.

Moreover, for nearly thirty years, Israel has been shrinking and retreating – not expanding – hardly the behavior of an aggressive empire bent on world domination. After capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza and the West Bank in a defensive war in 1967, Israel returned the vast Sinai to Egypt in 1978, agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian State on most of the West Bank and Gaza in 1993, vacated its security zone in Lebanon in 2000, abandoned Gaza entirely in 2005 and, under the current Prime Minister, committed to moving out of nearly all territory in the West Bank in the near future. In retrospect, some of these moves look like horrible policy mistakes, but they unequivocally indicate that there is no basis at all to suggest that Israeli aggression accounts for contemporary anti-Semitism.

The establishment of the modern Jewish state wasn’t a cause of Jew hatred, but a response to Jew hatred—not only in Europe, but throughout the Islamic world where some 800,000 Middle Eastern and North African Jews were driven from their ancient communities and found new homes in Israel. None of Israel’s eight major wars has been about a Jewish lust for new territory. All of them have been about a beleaguered nation’s ceaseless attempts to make its citizens secure from murderous attack in the distinctly limited area of their ancestral homeland. Every Arab child in Lebanon, in Gaza, and in the West Bank could sleep sweet, undisturbed slumber as soon as tomorrow night if the adults once-and-for-all gave up their long-standing project of driving the Jews out of the Middle East.

Contrary to anti-Semitic presumptions, Israel has never demanded special privileges of any kind, but yearns (and bleeds) only for the same rights other nations enjoy: to live undisturbed beside its neighbors without unceasing attack by terrorists, militias and, occasionally, major armies. Montenegro, the newest member of the family of nations after a referendum this year, won independence and worldwide recognition despite the fact that more than 45% of the electorate opposed bringing the nation into existence, and only a bare majority claims Montenegran (as opposed to Serbian) nationality. More than 80% of the residents of Israel are Jewish, and they have fought tenaciously for their nationhood for nearly sixty years. The desire for peaceful borders and acceptance from fanatical neighbors hardly amounts to an Israeli demand of privileged status, but the refusal to grant that recognition reflects the classical attitude of the anti-Semite: that Jews indeed deserve different treatment from all other nations on earth but in a negative, hostile and, ultimately murderous sense.

In conclusion, none of the three obsessive fears of Jew haters—the “Chosen People” concept, Jewish prosperity in the Diaspora, and Israel’s success (so far) in nation-building and self-defense –demonstrates in any way a push for world conquest or superior standing for the children of Abraham. How, then, can we understand the imperishable belief that Jews function as an arrogant, imperious, overbearing people? In a few words, that resentment stems in truth from the age-old Jewish refusal to abandon our separate identity, our irreducible distinctiveness through the millennia. My friends Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin provide the most compelling exposition on this dynamic in their invaluable book, Why the Jews?, recently reissued.

In any event, the logic becomes most accessible when considered in personal, intimate terms. If a small group among your neighbors refuses invitations to worship in your churches and mosques, to eat the food you prepare in your homes, to marry your daughters, to embrace your nationalisms, or to share your enthusiasm for the ultimate, universally applicable perfection of your Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Catholic, Islamic, Nazi or Communist worldview, then it’s all but certain you will resent the members of that stubborn group – and assume that they exclude themselves from elements of your society due to an innate, obnoxious sense of superiority.

For Jews who try to remain faithful to the old covenant, there’s no choice about the unyielding refusal to assimilate and disappear—and no surprise at the angry reaction in much of the world. After all, the Bible repeatedly predicts that response. This realization doesn’t make it any easier to cope with anti-Semitism, but it does make the eternal hatred comprehensible. No matter how inconvenient or unpopular, we get our marching orders from the commandments--including the crucial and celebrated injunction to choose life, for ourselves and our people.

[mkat]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Well obviously ur one ignorant person..sooo ur the horse shit.

i'm betting you're wrong on this. just because it was never so personal a war between the two as it is now. there will NEVER be peace there, no matter what. hell, islamics are such a tribal based people. if they don't fight the israelis, they'll fight each other.

[FishForLunch]

This is too good, so why dont the Sunnis and Shias in Iraq live peacefuly side by side? As far as we know it is muslim land. "ROP" is more like a political movement than a religion.

[AxdemxO]

Well they lived a lot better under Hussein than they are living now that Bush has fucked things up.

[FishForLunch]

It depends on what "lot better" is, may be for the sunnis.

[Rhylan]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Well they lived a lot better under Hussein than they are living now that Bush has fucked things up.

The Kurds would disagree.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Well they lived a lot better under Hussein than they are living now that Bush has fucked things up.

Really....care to prove that? How many unmarked graves have we started? How many rape camps?

How many folks were killed/raped/tortured by saddaam verus now?

[dude1394]

Is this you Ax?

On what the "conducive conditions" would be for Iran to establish relations with the U.S., the president said, "Well, please look at the makeup of the American administration, the behavior of the American administration. See how they talk down to my nation. And this recent resolution passed about the nuclear issue, look at the wording. They have given us — presented us with a package which we are studying right now. We even gave them a date for our response. Ignoring that, they passed a resolution. They want to build an empire. And they don't want to live side-by-side in peace with other nations. The American government, sir, it is very clear to me they have to change their behavior and everything will be resolved. (George W. Bush) believes that his power emanates from his nuclear warhead arsenals. The time of the bomb is in the past, it's behind us. Today is the era of thoughts, dialogue and cultural exchanges."

[FishForLunch]

You dont understand, Sunni's are the true followers of Islam. Shia's are not supposed to be in any position of power.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by FishForLunch

You dont understand, Sunni's are the true followers of Islam. Shia's are not supposed to be in any position of power.

Or living either it seems.

[AxdemxO]

Hay Dude keep watchin the tv and ull run across the rape and murder trial US soldier are on now.......Ohh and u can go and ask the people of Iraq and 99 % would say they had it better with Hussein.

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Hay Dude keep watchin the tv and ull run across the rape and murder trial US soldier are on now.......Ohh and u can go and ask the people of Iraq and 99 % would say they had it better with Hussein.

Wow. Just wow. The dumbf*ck gene is really pinging tonight.

[AxdemxO]

Hay Drbio thats the facts U dumbass and that is not the only incident either.

[Drbio]

No you are very much wrong dumbf*ck. 99% of Iraqis are not going to want Saddam back. So that's a fact huh? Got proof of that survey asshat? You are so filled with hate on Jews and Christians that you have no ability to think rationally.

Tool.

[mkat]

grow up. enough with the name calling.

look at it this way:

with saddam: possibility of being rounded up and shot or executed for no reason, among other facist-y things....

without: power outages in certain areas, terrorist bands roaming the country side, car bombs, IEDs in general...

i'd say it's equally bad.

[Usually Lurkin]

I'm sure their memories of Saddam's regime are a bit more serious than "facist-y."

here's an actual poll.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/31/news/poll.php

It looks like even though a lot of Iraqis don't trust that the US will ever leave, they think they are better off without Saddam. Keep in mind that for this poll, there was a deliberate oversampling of sunnis. Here's a relevant paragraph:

Seventy-seven percent said the U.S.-led invasion to remove Saddam had been worth it, even keeping in mind "any hardships you might have suffered," while 22 percent disagreed.

Sixty-four percent said Iraq was headed in the right direction, to 36 percent who believed it was headed in the wrong direction. That represented a significant rise since November when, according to a poll by the International Republican Institute, just under half said the country was headed in the right direction.

Two in three Iraqis said the recent parliamentary elections were free and fair, and a similar number said that the new Parliament would be "the legitimate representative of the Iraqi people."

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by mkat

grow up. enough with the name calling.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to inspire you to become a pompous ass.

[Drbio]

From UL's very interesting poll.....

Seventy-seven percent said the U.S.-led invasion to remove Saddam had been worth it, even keeping in mind "any hardships you might have suffered," while 22 percent disagreed.

Sixty-four percent said Iraq was headed in the right direction, to 36 percent who believed it was headed in the wrong direction. That represented a significant rise since November when, according to a poll by the International Republican Institute, just under half said the country was headed in the right direction.






But wait a minute....100 - 77 = 23 I thought 99% of Iraqis want Saddam back? At least that is what the jew hater would have us believe are facts.

[FishForLunch]

What is this obsession about power outages. Has it been declared a crime by the so called Human right groups.

[AxdemxO]

I didnt say that the 99% was a fact or that they want Hussein back. But most of them would say that it was better under him than it is now.

THE FACTS ARE: Ths same things are going on with the US soldiers that were going on with Saddam, even worse. Rape of young girls ,killing of whole families, pre meditated murders, and soo on...these are the fact and i believe some1 had asked earlier to show what the US has done wrong in Iraq.

[Five-ofan]

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I didnt say that the 99% was a fact or that they want Hussein back. But most of them would say that it was better under him than it is now.

THE FACTS ARE: Ths same things are going on with the US soldiers that were going on with Saddam, even worse. Rape of young girls ,killing of whole families, pre meditated murders, and soo on...these are the fact and i believe some1 had asked earlier to show what the US has done wrong in Iraq.

Where are all of these facts. I have heard about a couple of rapings and I dont want to diminish that but do you really think that more rapings have occured under the US watch than Husseins? Killing of whole families and pre meditated murders? Really? When? I think i remember hearing of 2 killings but i didnt know they were premeditated murders.

The biggest difference is that the US media is cannabilistic. Our media attempts to portray America in a bad light because quite frankly enough Americans are stupid enough to want to see this country that way. When Hussein was in charge, these things happened but the media of Iraq wouldnt and couldnt report them. Even then we still know of many horrible things he did. If you want to ask some who they prefer ruling why dont you ask the thousands that he murdered who they prefer?

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Part III of Medveds column on jew-hating. The last one is a pretty nice refuatation of all the bull**** about the war-mongering jewish state.

a good piece by medved, written from a personal vantagepoint of dealing with prejudice. if anybody isn't aware, there is a great deal of that running around in spite of the "modern" aspect of (supposed) cultural tolerance.

there is also a wonderful discussion on medved's page in regard to the ridiculous accusations that people who criticize Israel are "anti-semetic" and "jew haters". while there is a great deal of anti-semetism in the world, that association is many times false. one can be critical of an israeli policy/act while not having a single anti-semetic thought in their mind.