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Old 11-05-2003, 10:58 AM   #1
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Knee Pain From Arthritis? Try Leeches
Leech Saliva Relieves Osteoarthritis Pain; Could Lead to New Drug

By Jeanie Lerche Davis


Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Monday, November 03, 2003
WebMD Medical News


Nov. 3, 2003 -- A new study shows the ancient medical practice of using leeches may provide a new arthritis pain reliever.


The study appears in the latest Annals of Internal Medicine.


In recent times, several anti-inflammatory and anticlotting substances have been found in leech saliva, writes researcher Andreas Michalsen, MD, with the University of Duisburg-Essen in Essen, Germany.


A pilot study shows that a single treatment with three leeches to the knee rapidly relieved osteoarthritis pain. In fact, topical creams containing nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) also work to relieve arthritis pain, he says.


In this study, Michalsen and colleagues worked with 51 patients with knee osteoarthritis. Each was given a single treatment of four to six leeches applied to the knee -- or a 28-day topical cream containing the nonsteriodal anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac. Researchers monitored each patient's pain, function, and stiffness.


They found that, at day seven, arthritis pain was reduced considerably after leech therapy -- more so than with the topical cream. The leech therapy group also had better function and relief from stiffness.


After day seven, the improvements continued in the leech therapy group, until the study's end at day 28 --and although there was less improvement as time went on, patients who had received the leech therapy still reported better symptoms relief scores, writes Michalsen.


The research could lead to a new topical pain reliever -- minus the leeches, says Marc C. Hochberg, MD, MPH, with the University of Maryland School of Medicine. His commentary also appears in Annals of Medicine.


This discovery could ease not only patients' arthritis pain, but also help people with other causes of pain, he writes.


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Old 11-05-2003, 11:20 AM   #2
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I wonder how long the things are applied? Call me a sucker, but I think I would take a pass.

I'll wait until they can figure out how to make the leeches spit into a bucket and turn that into some sort of ointment.
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I wonder how long the things are applied? Call me a sucker, but I think I would take a pass.

I'll wait until they can figure out how to make the leeches spit into a bucket and turn that into some sort of ointment.
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:38 PM   #4
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U2- if you had severe knee pain like some folks I know, you would literally try anything. I have a friend in my neighborhood that used to play in NFL and he can barely walk at times. Knowing what he has done in the past for relief, I'm sure a few leaches wouldn't phase him a bit.
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Old 11-05-2003, 01:27 PM   #5
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U2- if you had severe knee pain like some folks I know, you would literally try anything. I have a friend in my neighborhood that used to play in NFL and he can barely walk at times. Knowing what he has done in the past for relief, I'm sure a few leaches wouldn't phase him a bit.
I get knee pain, but only in the winter... left over from a football injury. I certainly am at no point where I would let leeches suck on my knee. But my pain is not that great. I'll still wait for the spit. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


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Old 11-05-2003, 01:29 PM   #7
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I am ignoring the area above that post U2. Therefore I won't comment on it.
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all i want to know is, will we get shaq_attack's opinion on this new arthritis treatment?

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all i want to know is, will we get shaq_attack's opinion on this new arthritis treatment?

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Good call. And thanks for bringing this back to the topic.

If leaches help Shaq they must be legit. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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speaking of leeches....






i'll always think about Stand By Me when hearing the word 'leech'
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I had a leech on me once or twice while hiking in the wilderness. That's a big deal for a city boy.
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