Keith Van Horn...starter? - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Hitman · 09-13-2005, 08:20 PM

Any chance that Keith starts as the small forward this year?

If Josh started at the 2, that would give us a starting lineup of Jet, Josh, Keith, Dirk and Damp.

We would have 3 great 3 point shooters, 4 great rebounders, and tons of versatility.

In the case of a Marion or a McGrady, Keith would force the smaller defender to guard HIM in the post.

We could come off the bench with Devin at the 1, Quis at the 1 and 2, Stack at the 2 and 3, Doug at the 3 and 4 and Diop at the 5.

I have watched KVH all my life, from Utah to the Nets to the Sixers to the Knicks to the Mavs.

He is much maligned but the boy can play. He can board, he can score, he is an underrated defender.

I think he would do great as a starter on this team, and I think that he would be a much better fit as a starter than Stack.

dirno2000 · 09-13-2005, 08:23 PM

I don't know that Josh is quick enough to guard 2's night in and night out.

SiberianShaq · 09-13-2005, 09:00 PM

Doug at the 4?

SiberianShaq · 09-13-2005, 09:02 PM

Doug at the 4?

Thespiralgoeson · 09-13-2005, 09:03 PM

Josh will start at 3.

Ninkobei · 09-13-2005, 09:31 PM

I vote yes. Maybe not every game, but if the matchup is favorable..KVH and Dirk on the court at the same time must wreak terror into the heart of opponents. Though I can see some downside, I think it'd be fun to try it for a few games. why not? I can't think of a reason

dirk2003 · 09-13-2005, 09:36 PM

He is too slow to be an effective 3

Thespiralgoeson · 09-13-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by: Ninkobei
I vote yes. Maybe not every game, but if the matchup is favorable..KVH and Dirk on the court at the same time must wreak terror into the heart of opponents. Though I can see some downside, I think it'd be fun to try it for a few games. why not? I can't think of a reason

Avery is not a matchup coach. He wants a solid, established, undisputed starting lineup. Barring injuries of course, I think he's gonna start the same 5 guys every game. Of course, if the matchup is favorable, he'll heavily utilize the KVH/Dirk tandem, but I guarantee you the starting lineup is gonna be Terry/Christie or Stackhouse/Howard/Dirk/Damp for every game of the season, so long as they're all available.

Ninkobei · 09-13-2005, 10:45 PM

I, optimistically, think that they should try it out for a week or so. It would give opponent coaches something else to have to learn in the locker room, possibly taking away from their time studying our usual lineup. If we can find a way to exploit the clear height advantage every posession or if the on-court chemistry is simply amazing, I don't see how avery could refuse to use this lineup. I guess what I am 'really' argueing for is the lineup, not so much the starting 5. We all know that just because one starts the game doesn't mean one will finish it. I can see how this tandum could be a very potent end-game comeback crew.

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-13-2005, 11:27 PM

The reason is you have Stack, Quis, and Christie on the bench. What was the point of even signing Christie if we do that?

snoop · 09-13-2005, 11:31 PM

Van horn does not have the perimter d to handle 3's. So with avery being a d first coach i find it unlikely. You might see it on nights where hte mavs match up aginst spot up shooters like peja or fin at the 3.

grndmstr_c · 09-14-2005, 03:18 AM

You'll have a hard time finding anyone on this site that backs Keith more than me, but I don't like him in the starting lineup on this team. Josh needs to stay the starting SF, and if none of our three SG's deserves a start then we need to make a trade, not try to bring all of them off the bench just so that we can feature two guys playing out of position against the opponents' top lineups.

sike · 09-14-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by: grndmstr_c
You'll have a hard time finding anyone on this site that backs Keith more than me, but I don't like him in the starting lineup on this team. Josh needs to stay the starting SF, and if none of our three SG's deserves a start then we need to make a trade, not try to bring all of them off the bench just so that we can feature two guys playing out of position against the opponents' top lineups.

agreed. Keep Josh in as much as possible and play JT at two if Stack and Daniels can't cut it....KVB (remember that?) will (sadly) likely be the odd man out when the minutes are divied up...

grndmstr_c · 09-14-2005, 02:28 PM

I don't know that he will/should be the odd man out. Granted, he has the pt misfortune of playing behind Dirk, but he's clearly the best backup option at the 4, seemed last year to be an excellent backup option for Damp, and could very well end up being the best backup option for Josh as well now that Fin's gone (and depending on how Doug can handle SF duties).

Red-Phase · 09-14-2005, 03:46 PM

thats stackhouses spot

birdsanctuary · 09-14-2005, 09:36 PM

0% Chance

snoop · 09-15-2005, 12:21 AM

KVH will get 15-18 mins a game somehow, he is too good not to. He will play the 3,4, and some five against some teams. I think it is vital he plays because he is a great shooter and the best back up dirks ever had.

cripple balls · 09-20-2005, 11:13 AM

this thread makes me want to die of aids

Drbio · 09-20-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by: cripple balls
this thread makes me want to die of aids

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