11-07-2008, 01:08 AM
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Sources: Bobcats to trade Wallace?
Not sure how legitimate this is. I've read it in several websites though.
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Multiple NBA sources have confirmed that Charlotte moving Gerald Wallace is imminent, but Pro Basketball News has yet to learn of a definitive destination at this time.
The Bobcats have apparently talked about Wallace's long-term value to the franchise (he signed a six-year, $57 million extension in July of 2007) and decided that they would be better suited allocating such a significant salary to somebody else.
Who? Word is we'll know much sooner than later.
Yahoo! Sports reported in late October that Michael Jordan was talked out of trading Wallace in the offseason, but four games have apparently been enough to convince head coach Larry Brown that the Bobcats can afford to part with Wallace.
Golden State would be an ideal destination for Wallace, who would fit right in with the Warriors' up-and-down style. Forward Al Harrington, who has fallen out of favor with head coach Don Nelson and demanded a trade that he's been told will be granted at some point, is owed $19.3 million through next season ($9.3 this year and $10 next at player option) and would be the ideal pawn in a deal.
Considering New York has also been tied as a possible destination for Harrington, the fact the Knicks have Eddy Curry collecting dust also makes them a potential partner in a multiple-team deal.
Pro Basketball News has also been hearing since preseason that the Portland Trail Blazers have been seeking out teams for a blockbuster move as well, with no one outside of Greg Oden, LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy considered untouchable.
There are rumors that Charlotte has also been said to have grown displeased with the inconsistent play of Raymond Felton and is also ready to pull the plug on Adam Morrison, so a massive shakeup could be in the works. This is not uncharted territory for Brown, who last looked to significantly shake up the Knicks roster following his disastrous first season in New York and was fired instead, replaced by then-president Isiah Thomas.
It appears that Brown has a more willing listener in his new boss, who has apparently grown tired of the product he's currently putting out there. The Bobcats have not won more than 33 games in their four-year existence and look no closer to being playoff contender than they were in their expansion season, but are about to get a face lift.
Stay tuned to more from Pro Basketball News on this developing story.
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http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbn...ing110608.html
Last edited by monty55555; 11-07-2008 at 01:11 AM.
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11-07-2008, 09:29 AM
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Wow, this really surprises me. Very curious to see where he ends up.
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11-07-2008, 09:45 AM
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Crap. Keep him in the East.
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11-07-2008, 09:57 AM
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The Mavs were never in the Gerald Wallace race in the first place...
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11-07-2008, 10:11 AM
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Our best chance:
Dallas Gets:
Gerald Wallace
Nazr Mohammed
Adam Morrison
Charlotte Gets:
Erick Dampier
Brandon Bass
Jerry Stackhouse
Dallas Lineup:
Diop / Nazr
Dirk / Singleton
Wallace / Green / George
Howard / Wright / Morrison
Kidd / Terry
Charlotte Lineup:
Damp / Hollins
Okafor / Bass / May
Stack / Dudley
Richardson / Carroll
Felton / Augustin
Larry Brown likes tough vets and Stackhouse fits the bill. Furthermore, Charlotte has been disenchanted with Sean May and need something to bolster their front line. Damp is a big bruiser of a center and Bass is an up and coming PF who can provide scoring spark off the bench and depth at the 4 spot. Additionally, Charlotte gets to unload Adam Morrison, cut costs, and improve their starting lineup.
For Dallas it's risky as there are some unkowns. It obviously creates a fearsome starting lineup but it also creates a weakness in the depth of our front line. Additionally, it moves Howard to a position no one is really sure he can excel at and it brings in Wallace who, while very talented as a defender and transition player, is not a very good shooter and happens to be injury prone.
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Last edited by Dirkenstien; 11-07-2008 at 10:21 AM.
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11-07-2008, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkenstien
Our best chance:
Dallas Gets:
Gerald Wallace
Nazr Mohammed
Adam Morrison
Charlotte Gets:
Erick Dampier
Brandon Bass
Jerry Stackhouse
Dallas Lineup:
Diop / Nazr
Dirk / Singleton
Wallace / Green / George
Howard / Wright / Morrison
Kidd / Terry
Charlotte Lineup:
Damp / Hollins
Okafor / Bass / May
Stack / Dudley
Richardson / Carroll
Felton / Augustin
Larry Brown likes tough vets and Stackhouse fits the bill. Furthermore, Charlotte has been disenchanted with Sean May and need something to bolster their front line. Damp is a big bruiser of a center and Bass is an up and coming PF who can provide scoring spark off the bench and depth at the 4 spot. Additionally, Charlotte gets to unload Adam Morrison, cut costs, and improve their starting lineup.
For Dallas it's risky as there are some unkowns. It obviously creates a fearsome starting lineup but it also creates a weakness in the depth of our front line. Additionally, it moves Howard to a position no one is really sure he can excel at and it brings in Wallace who, while very talented as a defender and transition player, is not a very good shooter and happens to be injury prone.
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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11-07-2008, 10:35 AM
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Throw in Felton and the numbers still work. Kick back our 2009 1st (we're not going to get a better PG than Felton with that pick) and some cash.
Charlotte saves $4.5MM this season, and is only on the hook for $2MM to Stack and the remainder of Damp's contract next year (they can decide whether or not to re-up Bass). Add the $3MM cash that we could send them and they make out like bandits from a cash standpoint.
It's very obvious why the Mavs do this deal--we get Wallace, our PG of the future in Felton, a center to back up Diop. Oh yeah, and Morrison, whose contract expires in a year or two.
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11-07-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
Throw in Felton and the numbers still work. Kick back our 2009 1st (we're not going to get a better PG than Felton with that pick) and some cash.
Charlotte saves $4.5MM this season, and is only on the hook for $2MM to Stack and the remainder of Damp's contract next year (they can decide whether or not to re-up Bass). Add the $3MM cash that we could send them and they make out like bandits from a cash standpoint.
It's very obvious why the Mavs do this deal--we get Wallace, our PG of the future in Felton, a center to back up Diop. Oh yeah, and Morrison, whose contract expires in a year or two.
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Can't trade the 2009 first. At least not until the day of the draft.
Last edited by jthig32; 11-07-2008 at 10:44 AM.
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11-07-2008, 11:59 AM
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I hate to admit it, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. Would Brown though?
Kidd, Felton, JJB
JHo, JET, Wright,
Wallace, Morrison, Green
Dirk, (Williams/Singleton will have to get some burn here)
Diop, Nazr
12 actual players (If Williams can hold down the PF position)
I am sure that GWallace would get some burn there, with Dirk at the 5.
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11-07-2008, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Can't trade the 2009 first. At least not until the day of the draft.
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True, but they can agree to draft for Charlotte then trade the rights for Charlotte's second-round pick in 2011 or something. So while they technically can't trade the pick, they can effectively include it as part of a deal if that's what it takes.
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11-07-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
True, but they can agree to draft for Charlotte then trade the rights for Charlotte's second-round pick in 2011 or something. So while they technically can't trade the pick, they can effectively include it as part of a deal if that's what it takes.
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....YEA and if anyone asks management just says "no comment."
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11-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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I think Wallace is a calibur of player would could get if we trade Bass + Stack's expiring. He's a great player, but not really talked about so I think we'd get him a little cheaper than his actual value. I also think a team like the Bobcats would love an explosive young guy like Bass rather than someone with a few loose screws like Harrington.
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11-07-2008, 02:00 PM
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doubt it. it'd be nice if he came to mavs though.
throw in gerald green :P
Last edited by scorched03; 11-07-2008 at 02:02 PM.
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11-12-2008, 11:18 AM
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trade to us~
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11-12-2008, 01:34 PM
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I'm not sure if Porkdiop would be a good starting center...
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11-12-2008, 03:06 PM
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^No, I would start NAzr over Diop. At least he has some offensive game. I would have like us to go after Theo Ratliff this offseason instead of Diop. Nice shot blocker, solid Defender.
Diop had his worst game of the year, possibly as a Mav yesterday.
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11-12-2008, 03:22 PM
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Theo is too old. Diop is still young and can be a viable big man for us for years to come.
I like Dirkenstein's trade.
Dallas Gets:
Gerald Wallace
Nazr Mohammed
Adam Morrison
Charlotte Gets:
Erick Dampier
Brandon Bass
Jerry Stackhouse
I would go even further and include Terry for Felton/Carroll
Nazr/Diop
Dirk/who cares?/Morrison
Wallace/Morrison/Wright
Howard/Green/Carroll/Wright
Kidd/Felton/Barea
athletes with Kidd.
shooters off the bench.
we get younger/faster/quicker.
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11-12-2008, 04:06 PM
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The Bobcats can get more for Felton than Terry and his bad contract.
But if we're planning on winning now we would be wise to find some way, any way, of obtaining Wallace.
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11-12-2008, 05:36 PM
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If the reports are true they approached the Clippers regarding Kaman then I think we definitely have a package worth considering because that means they're probably looking for a solid center. Granted, Kaman>Damp but they'd also get some desperately needed front court depth with Bass and an expiring in Stack.
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Last edited by Dirkenstien; 11-12-2008 at 05:36 PM.
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