Jason Terry must be traded! - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

jamyoa · 12-10-2009, 07:48 PM

Let's face it this guy will never learn, He is the biggest reason why the Mavs have a hard time closing out games in the 4th. qtr. He turns the ball over more than anyone in the 4th. qtr. and he plays no defense. All he does at crunchtime is launch 3ptr's. or take stupid jumpshots. When all he has to do is drive to the lane. Terry is a hot and cold player, by this I mean he will have a decent game, then he will have 3 or more bad games by the time he gets it going again. He also can't make freethrows under pressure! Like it or not this guy is a liability to this team. He's got to go. Trust me Mark will make a trade before the deadline, and don't be surprised if the Jet is flown out of here. Gooden is also hurting the Mavs! I would rather see Kris H. play instead of him, damn how many easy shots has Gooden missed? Carlisle is doing a poooooooor job rotating players, ever heard of giving Roddy more playing time. I'd rather c Boubois driving to the lane, then Terry taking stupid 3pt. shots. It's common sense Rick Carlisle!

Underdog · 12-10-2009, 07:53 PM

mavsgirl4134 · 12-10-2009, 07:54 PM

pssh... honey bunches, you got it ALL wrong. JJ Barea is the reason why this team is so horrible. I mean the Mavs haven't had any injuries all season, ANNND they're barely above .500. Just another one of those seasons when the Mavs fail to make the playoffs. It's a freakin bummer.

Nice to hear from you again, it's been awhile.

iella · 12-10-2009, 08:40 PM

I agree 100%. JET misses his shots sometimes, thus he sucks and must go. Gooden sucks too, he definitely hurts the Mavs when he misses his shots. Marion is also terrible - has anyone seen how many shots he has missed lately?? We definitely need to get rid of him soon. Damp can't catch the ball to save his life, so let's give him the axe. It's common sense! Josh can't drive well on his gimpy ankle, so let's throw him in the trade, too. Jason Kidd can't make layups to save his life, so why has Cuban kept him around for so long? Why does Carlisle even give him any playing time? And don't get me started on Beaubois. That kid is like a turnover machine. AND on top of that, he misses shots sometimes, too! Come to think of it, even that Dirk guy misses his shots. He better be part of the next trade deal, or I'm through with the Mavs.

LonghornDub · 12-10-2009, 08:45 PM

This may just be the worst post on the board this season. Of course, we haven't had basketballgirl around in awhile.

Sportstudi · 12-10-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Of course, we haven't had basketballgirl around in awhile.

But that's the only understandable reason. Of course, that alone is a shame. Ban the op as fast as possible! Haven't read such a crap since a while.

LSMF · 12-10-2009, 08:49 PM

I seriously Lol'ed when I logged on and this thread caught my eye. "Jamyoa" is who we thought he was lol.

LSMF · 12-10-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

This may just be the worst post on the board this season. Of course, we haven't had basketballgirl around in awhile.

Imagine if Jamyoa and Basketballgirl got married? Wonder what the kid would be like...

Sportstudi · 12-10-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LSMF

Imagine if Jamyoa and Basketballgirl got married? Wonder what the kid would be like...

Seriously, I even don't want to imagine that...

xrobx · 12-10-2009, 09:01 PM

jamyoa must be banned!

fluid.forty.one · 12-10-2009, 09:08 PM

It's funny to watch LSMF jump in on the dogpile.

dirno2000 · 12-10-2009, 10:40 PM

nowhereman · 12-10-2009, 11:00 PM

you are a worthless human being

mac222b · 12-10-2009, 11:17 PM

posts such as these make me pine for the days of basketballgirl...

Dirkadirkastan · 12-11-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jamyoa

Let's face it this guy will never learn, He is the biggest reason why the Mavs have a hard time closing out games in the 4th. qtr. He turns the ball over more than anyone in the 4th. qtr. and he plays no defense. All he does at crunchtime is launch 3ptr's. or take stupid jumpshots. When all he has to do is drive to the lane. Terry is a hot and cold player, by this I mean he will have a decent game, then he will have 3 or more bad games by the time he gets it going again. He also can't make freethrows under pressure! Like it or not this guy is a liability to this team. He's got to go. Trust me Mark will make a trade before the deadline, and don't be surprised if the Jet is flown out of here. Gooden is also hurting the Mavs! I would rather see Kris H. play instead of him, damn how many easy shots has Gooden missed? Carlisle is doing a poooooooor job rotating players, ever heard of giving Roddy more playing time. I'd rather c Boubois driving to the lane, then Terry taking stupid 3pt. shots. It's common sense Rick Carlisle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto

esoteric562 · 12-11-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jamyoa

Let's face it this guy will never learn, He is the biggest reason why the Mavs have a hard time closing out games in the 4th. qtr. He turns the ball over more than anyone in the 4th. qtr. and he plays no defense. All he does at crunchtime is launch 3ptr's. or take stupid jumpshots. When all he has to do is drive to the lane. Terry is a hot and cold player, by this I mean he will have a decent game, then he will have 3 or more bad games by the time he gets it going again. He also can't make freethrows under pressure! Like it or not this guy is a liability to this team. He's got to go. Trust me Mark will make a trade before the deadline, and don't be surprised if the Jet is flown out of here. Gooden is also hurting the Mavs! I would rather see Kris H. play instead of him, damn how many easy shots has Gooden missed? Carlisle is doing a poooooooor job rotating players, ever heard of giving Roddy more playing time. I'd rather c Boubois driving to the lane, then Terry taking stupid 3pt. shots. It's common sense Rick Carlisle!

QFT!

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-11-2009, 12:44 AM

Dirk missed a shot one time I member. TRADE DIRK! BUT PROALLY NO TEAM WANTS HIM SO JUST CUT HIM!

sefant77 · 12-11-2009, 02:40 AM

Yeah lets trade him!

For Kaman, Biedrins, JJ, Kevin Martin...

ShaggyDirk · 12-11-2009, 03:51 PM

this is awesome!

EricaLubarsky · 12-11-2009, 03:57 PM

Holy crap this is a new thread? I thought someone just bumped one of the best of Jamyoa series. I didnt think Jam was even allowed to use the internet anymore let alone still have a D-M.com account.

May god have mercy on our souls.

dude1394 · 12-11-2009, 04:12 PM

The unfortunate thing is....I think he needs to be traded also but I hate to encourage this poster.

EDIT: Although he's been giving it a MUCH better defensive effort lately, he's no longer just a sieve.

quietsavant · 12-11-2009, 04:17 PM

DELETE THREAD

LonghornDub · 12-11-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

The unfortunate thing is....I think he needs to be traded also but I hate to encourage this poster.

EDIT: Although he's been giving it a MUCH better defensive effort lately, he's no longer just a sieve.

You want to trade the reigning 6th Man of the Year, the second best shooter on the team, and either the most clutch or second most clutch player on the team?

I will never understand stuff like this. There are 29 teams in the NBA who would love to have Terry.

esoteric562 · 12-11-2009, 04:32 PM

every GDT, i go lurkin into the opposing team forums and all i can say is that Terry is feared whenever he steps onto the court. Usually known as a Team killer. Their fans know how dangerous terry is when playing.

u2sarajevo · 12-11-2009, 04:46 PM

There is a reason that Spurs fans hate him so badly. And it's not because he's a horrible player and they are scared we will trade him to them. When he punched Finleys nads that added to their hatred of him.

alexamenos · 12-11-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jamyoa

Let's face it this guy will never learn, He is the biggest reason why the Mavs have a hard time closing out games in the 4th. qtr. He turns the ball over more than anyone in the 4th. qtr. and he plays no defense. All he does at crunchtime is launch 3ptr's. or take stupid jumpshots. When all he has to do is drive to the lane. Terry is a hot and cold player, by this I mean he will have a decent game, then he will have 3 or more bad games by the time he gets it going again. He also can't make freethrows under pressure! Like it or not this guy is a liability to this team. He's got to go. Trust me Mark will make a trade before the deadline, and don't be surprised if the Jet is flown out of here. Gooden is also hurting the Mavs! I would rather see Kris H. play instead of him, damn how many easy shots has Gooden missed? Carlisle is doing a poooooooor job rotating players, ever heard of giving Roddy more playing time. I'd rather c Boubois driving to the lane, then Terry taking stupid 3pt. shots. It's common sense Rick Carlisle!

It doesn't take a brain seargent to know the problems with Jason Terry.

left texas · 12-11-2009, 06:08 PM

Just tell me is jamyoa a total imbosol?

nowhereman · 12-11-2009, 06:16 PM

We were never in the trade jason terry race to begin with.

dude1394 · 12-12-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

You want to trade the reigning 6th Man of the Year, the second best shooter on the team, and either the most clutch or second most clutch player on the team?

I will never understand stuff like this. There are 29 teams in the NBA who would love to have Terry.

I agree and disagree.. Last year his defense SUCKED!! Much,much worse than JJB for example, it was a don't care.

IMO he causes us problems defensively, if you give me a shooter that is close to what jet gives me but is 4 inches taller than I can then trade josh for example. If he continues to put the effort in on the defensive end, I'll change my mind...but until this year I have felt that he was the one player playing out of position terribly. A 6'2 point guard having to play the shooting guard..it causes issues.

mary · 12-12-2009, 12:21 AM

This thread would make SilkXpert very angry.

LonghornDub · 12-12-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I agree and disagree.. Last year his defense SUCKED!! Much,much worse than JJB for example, it was a don't care.

IMO he causes us problems defensively, if you give me a shooter that is close to what jet gives me but is 4 inches taller than I can then trade josh for example. If he continues to put the effort in on the defensive end, I'll change my mind...but until this year I have felt that he was the one player playing out of position terribly. A 6'2 point guard having to play the shooting guard..it causes issues.

First of all, just to be clear, I obviously respect you as a poster and this response shouldn't be taken as something similar to what the OP got (which was deserved). I just don't think you're appreciating how rare a player is that's 1) close to as good offensively as Terry and 2) better than average defensively in size and skill. There just aren't very many. We're not going to give up Terry and get Kobe.

You say it "causes issues" to have a guy like him at that position, which is undeniably true, but any player outside of the top 15 or 20 in the NBA (if that) is going to cause some issues somewhere. Everybody outside that very elite class of players has some glaring weakness. Terry's strengths--ones which really nobody else on the team has--outweigh his weaknesses by far. Over the past 4-5 years, for every 1 game we lost because of Terry's defense, we probably won 3 or 4 because of his offense.

That's all I'll say on this, since this terrible thread by a terrible poster shouldn't warrant any legitimate discussion of anything.

sefant77 · 12-12-2009, 01:25 AM

Hmmm...

If we upgrade in a trade we trade him. If it isnt an upgrade we of course dont trade him.

Thats sums it up

dude1394 · 12-12-2009, 01:52 AM

If jet embraces a defensive mindset then I think he'll really help the team, iif not I'd have to look at finding something for him. Having a defensive sieve at the end of the game is murder, absolute murder and it will not get a championship.

He's not a point we've been down that path. And if he's not able to at least be energetic defensively then his offense, imo, isn't enough to make up for it because it isn't consistent enough in the playoffs (if he's hot, great, if he's not, he can't help in other ways). He's going to be on the floor at the end of games and I do not think his game complements the teams in some respects, he doesn't draw enough fouls for my taste and he doesn't draw and kick consistently. Because of that I don't have much of a problem with josh trying the shooting guard, but I'm not sure he has the bbiq to handle it. We'll see...I've liked the way he's played this year.

What we are going to see (it appears) is that we'll have dirk, shawn, josh, jet, jkiddo on the floor...and one of the reasons imo is because jet has to be on the floor...I guess we could find a way to keep him off the floor, but I don't see it on this team.

Sooo.....I would NEVER give away jet, he's way too valuable for that...but if I could use jet+ to facilitate a better player I'd do it, even if it wasn't "quite" as good of an offensive player, but a more rounded and especially taller one.

nowhereman · 12-12-2009, 04:12 AM

I don't know how much you guys buy into it, but I'm putting a lot of stock into the importance of his locker room presence. I'd take JET over, say, Vince Carter anyday, even with the talent dropoff, if it means solid chemistry and excellent player rapport.

horse900703 · 12-12-2009, 09:49 AM

wow really? I think Josh Howard should be traded!!! NOT JET

AO41 · 12-12-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

If jet embraces a defensive mindset then I think he'll really help the team, iif not I'd have to look at finding something for him. Having a defensive sieve at the end of the game is murder, absolute murder and it will not get a championship.

He's not a point we've been down that path. And if he's not able to at least be energetic defensively then his offense, imo, isn't enough to make up for it because it isn't consistent enough in the playoffs (if he's hot, great, if he's not, he can't help in other ways). He's going to be on the floor at the end of games and I do not think his game complements the teams in some respects, he doesn't draw enough fouls for my taste and he doesn't draw and kick consistently. Because of that I don't have much of a problem with josh trying the shooting guard, but I'm not sure he has the bbiq to handle it. We'll see...I've liked the way he's played this year.

What we are going to see (it appears) is that we'll have dirk, shawn, josh, jet, jkiddo on the floor...and one of the reasons imo is because jet has to be on the floor...I guess we could find a way to keep him off the floor, but I don't see it on this team.

Sooo.....I would NEVER give away jet, he's way too valuable for that...but if I could use jet+ to facilitate a better player I'd do it, even if it wasn't "quite" as good of an offensive player, but a more rounded and especially taller one.

Okk soo you are suggesting that because Jet was "bad" on D over the years it ossibly cost us a championship????? or that if he continues to be "bad" that we will never win one, just because hes "bad" on D.

So I fell like I am gonna get it for this..BUT I dont believe that Dirks D helped much over the years either especially at his position. Dirk over the years has been just as bad...but IMO they have both been OK and this year they have both improved. Dirk has slacked off a bit since the forst 10 games...but theyr both doing great. Its funny how everyone always blamed Damp for foul trouble..yet it was always obvious that Damp had to guard 2 people whether that meant his man and Dirks man or a guard thats driving past Terry and Dirk while hes swiping. So I think they both have some issues but none are significant...GOO MAVS

AO41 · 12-12-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

I don't know how much you guys buy into it, but I'm putting a lot of stock into the importance of his locker room presence. I'd take JET over, say, Vince Carter anyday, even with the talent dropoff, if it means solid chemistry and excellent player rapport.

No question there.

THERE IS NO WAY...to trade Jet now and expect the morale of the team to stay at the same level. During the offseason maybe, but to do it in the middle of a season it would be devastating to the team.

dude1394 · 12-12-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

Okk soo you are suggesting that because Jet was "bad" on D over the years it ossibly cost us a championship????? or that if he continues to be "bad" that we will never win one, just because hes "bad" on D.

So I fell like I am gonna get it for this..BUT I dont believe that Dirks D helped much over the years either especially at his position. Dirk over the years has been just as bad...but IMO they have both been OK and this year they have both improved. Dirk has slacked off a bit since the forst 10 games...but theyr both doing great. Its funny how everyone always blamed Damp for foul trouble..yet it was always obvious that Damp had to guard 2 people whether that meant his man and Dirks man or a guard thats driving past Terry and Dirk while hes swiping. So I think they both have some issues but none are significant...GOO MAVS

Yes...I'm saying if jet is as bad as he last year was on defense we will never win a championship with him on the floor at the end of games. And his lack of defense (dirks also, but dirk is a different beast) has possibly cost us a championship. . Also his lack of pg skills may have also had just about the same effect. I really like jet, but he's a pretty limited player imo.

Dirk hasn't been great but I"m not sure he was ever as bad a jet was last year. Also you cannot compare dirk to jet offensively in any form or fashion, it's just not even close. A double team would destroy jet, if jet's shot isn't falling he never gets to the rim. Not to mention that even when dirk wasn't playing decent defense (which I will give you) he still was pulling down 8-9 rpg.

What does jet do for you when his shot isn't falling? Assits-nope, rebounds-nope, fta's-nope, steals-nope, etc.

Don't get me wrong I think jet is the second best scorer on this team so he has to be on the floor(well I might debate myself because josh could easily get there), but if he was to continue playing defense like last year I do not believe the team would have any recourse but to find away to get him off the floor at the end of games.

Happily I have not seen the sieve-like jet this year. But because of his lack of doing much else than score I think that has to continue. He also needs to be willing to get into the lane more ala little nicky, he can hit that floater and mid-range shot well, I'd like to see more of that so he would not be so streaky, instead of looking for 3-balls so much.

dude1394 · 12-12-2009, 01:00 PM

There is one thing that jet definitely brings to this team and that is enthusiasm, energy and competitiveness. What I want to see him do is bring that competitiveness on both ends...

This video was really good by jet. Third video down, jet and rick carlisle talking about the heat.
http://www.nba.com/video/mavericks/

"We hate miami"
"I've never had a good vacation in miami"
"Free throws and diva wade are bad words together around here".
"Donaghey(sp) coming out and saying some things"

Then you could see it on the mavs faces last night, whenever diva got a silly ass call, they still couldn't believe it, I wish nothing good on that franchise or diva.