I was SO wrong about Jet - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

nowhereman · 05-08-2011, 04:06 PM

where's the crow i'm gonna go eat it

iella · 05-08-2011, 04:10 PM

It's nice to see the Mavs on the delivering end of a performance like this for once.

Kante · 05-08-2011, 04:19 PM

New thread, really?

Underdog · 05-08-2011, 05:03 PM

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New thread, really?

100% thread-worthy.

Nowhereman took that one like a man.

markus1234 · 05-08-2011, 05:08 PM

Wrong ?

You can't be wrong about Jet. Jet is an ON and OFF guy. In the next games maybe he goes 1-20...

LonghornDub · 05-08-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

You can't be wrong about Jet. Jet is an ON and OFF guy. In the next games maybe he goes 1-20...

Gee, like all shooters.

JeffViggiano · 05-08-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

Wrong ?

You can't be wrong about Jet. Jet is an ON and OFF guy. In the next games maybe he goes 1-20...

right.i hope RC understand when Terry is OFF and when is he ON.

go mavssssssssssss

Mav Addict · 05-08-2011, 05:32 PM

Props to JET b/c I want him traded for a bigger guard

EDIT- ...and still do...a starter preferably

The Crippler · 05-08-2011, 05:55 PM

Me too. Me too.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-08-2011, 06:32 PM

I was wrong about Jet.

Underdog · 05-08-2011, 06:40 PM

We were all wrong about JET - even the biggest Terry nut-hugger couldn't see this coming.

It's not just this one game, not just this series, but the entire playoffs - he seems to be getting more focused with every game...

Axilla · 05-08-2011, 06:46 PM

has Jason Terry....dare i say it?.... grown up?

this is a changed man

Underdog · 05-08-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Axilla

has Jason Terry....dare i say it?.... grown up?

this is a changed man

Maybe that ejection in the last regular season game against LA put things into perspective for him?

Whatever it is, it seems like he's turned a corner of some sorts - the man has ice in his veins...

Dirkadirkastan · 05-08-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

Wrong ?

You can't be wrong about Jet. Jet is an ON and OFF guy. In the next games maybe he goes 1-20...

This team's identity lies on the defensive end. Unlike other teams that shoot a lot of threes (such as Orlando), they don't simply "live by the three, die by the three". On nights when their shot is off, they rely on their defense to give them just enough opportunities for the points they need to win. On nights when their shot is on... well, they stomp the champs by 36 in an elimination game.

The story for Jason Terry individually is very similar, but only a microcosm of the whole.

ghazi · 05-08-2011, 06:58 PM

go Mavs

Axilla · 05-08-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Maybe that ejection in the last regular season game against LA put things into perspective for him?

Whatever it is, it seems like he's turned a corner of some sorts - the man has ice in his veins...

honestly, i don't think i have one complaint about JET other than the stupid foul on odom--which was mostly unlucky. he was just trying to play it tight

Underdog · 05-08-2011, 07:02 PM

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honestly, i don't think i have one complaint about JET other than the stupid foul on odom--which was mostly unlucky. he was just trying to play it tight

Yeah, I almost forgot about that - Terry has done so much since then to erase that mistake...

wilmtalk · 05-08-2011, 07:34 PM

Terrys main problem seems to be between his ears. He always had the ability to put up big numbers on any given day when he got hot. He just needs to control his ego. When he gets too full of himself he begins to force things and thats what leads him to play like sh#t. He is most effective when he plays within the offensive flow. I do remember some years back right before Kidd got here he played really well for an entire year so it is possible.

Most of the posters on this site have short memorys. They roast him when he is on a sh#t streak and think he is god when he gets hot. He is both. He is a streak shooter. They can be very valuable if they are used correctly. He will never be consistant shooter but he could be a consistant player. Thats where coaching plays a major part in his effectiveness for this team. Dallas is fortunate that he has hit his hot streak at the right time. I just hope this is one of his longer streaks.

Underdog · 05-08-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wilmtalk

Terrys main problem seems to be between his ears. He always had the ability to put up big numbers on any given day when he got hot. He just needs to control his ego. When he gets too full of himself he begins to force things and thats what leads him to play like sh#t. He is most effective when he plays within the offensive flow. I do remember some years back right before Kidd got here he played really well for an entire year so it is possible.

Most of the posters on this site have short memorys. They roast him when he is on a sh#t streak and think he is god when he gets hot. He is both. He is a streak shooter. They can be very valuable if they are used correctly. He will never be consistant shooter but he could be a consistant player. Thats where coaching plays a major part in his effectiveness for this team. Dallas is fortunate that he has hit his hot streak at the right time. I just hope this is one of his longer streaks.

But the difference this year has been his efficiency, inside game and his willingness to defer when his shot goes cold (not to mention his sudden defensive contributions) - his worst shooting performance in the playoffs so far was Game 2 against LA where he shot 3-12, but he ended up getting 5 assists and a couple big steals to even it out.

The guy is simply playing at higher level than he has the past few years, even when his shot isn't falling...

dude1394 · 05-08-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

where's the crow i'm gonna go eat it

good for ya'...there should be a whole lot of crow eaten tonight.

dude1394 · 05-08-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kante

New thread, really?

yes really.

dude1394 · 05-08-2011, 08:30 PM

The difference with jet is that he truly has tried to play defense and he's been trying to be a playmaker instead of just a chucker. Nice stuff...

xrobx · 05-08-2011, 08:40 PM

i owe jet an apology. i think most of us do

LonghornDub · 05-09-2011, 12:17 AM

It's a pet peeve of mine, but I want to reiterate that the term "streak shooter" is redundant. There is no such thing as an outside shooter who is not streaky. Ray Allen is probably the best shooter ever, and last Finals he went from having one of the best shooting games in Finals history to one of the worst--in ONE game. Distance shooting is a physical act that's inherently streaky. Terry isn't any streakier than any of the others.

As for Terry "turning a corner," this is a guy who was a collegiate champion and was the Mavs' best player in their most important series ever (with Dirk being the focus of the Heat's defense). He was also the Mavs best player in a series where they became the third team ever to overcome a 0-2 deficit with the first two at home. He won a 6th Man award season before this one. He didn't "turn a corner." People were just overlooking the older evidence. Sports fans have short memories....

It's always been there for Terry. "Turn a corner"? No. Playing to his potential? Definitely.

*edit* Should clarify that I mean he hasn't turned a corner as a player. I think he definitely turned some sort of corner emotionally after that horrible outburst in March.

BGMaverick9 · 05-09-2011, 12:21 AM

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Maybe that ejection in the last regular season game against LA put things into perspective for him?

Whatever it is, it seems like he's turned a corner of some sorts - the man has ice in his veins...

He said after Game 3 that he uses that time in his life as a major learning experience and that he has grown due to the adversity he had to deal with on the court and off the court.

Male30Dan · 05-09-2011, 12:27 AM

I will say this... Terry has played the first half of the playoffs much better than I expected (offensively and defensively). Here is hoping that he plays the second half just as well.

Like Carlisle said, all of these guys (himself included - no rings as a coach) are in this together and are all trying to get their very first ring. Everyone is hungry, and everyone sees a window closing. We need Terry to win against the Grizzlies or the Thunder and we will need him against any of the 4 remaining Eastern conference teams if we make the Finals.

Bottom line, he has played as well as you could ask for thus far and that is most certainly a surprise to these eyes. He certainly has the talent and has been as hot as this in the past so hopefully it continues until a certain trophy is being hoisted by him and another well-known German.

Go Mavs!

41mvp · 05-09-2011, 09:35 AM

I m sorry for all Jet!!!

purplefrog · 05-09-2011, 11:03 AM

Give Jason Terry a lot of credit. He has been awesome. I also think the additions of TC and Peja have helped him immensely. Opposing defenses can no longer put their focus on just Dirk and JET because you have a bit of an inside game and another elite shooter.

Mavericks Rockets Fan · 05-09-2011, 11:09 AM

Can someone make one of those "where amazing happens" videos for JET? His performance truly deserves one.

Underdog · 05-09-2011, 11:35 AM

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*edit* Should clarify that I mean he hasn't turned a corner as a player. I think he definitely turned some sort of corner emotionally after that horrible outburst in March.

Your edit here is actually what I meant by "turn the corner" - not talent-wise, but attitude-wise...

Underdog · 05-09-2011, 11:37 AM

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He said after Game 3 that he uses that time in his life as a major learning experience and that he has grown due to the adversity he had to deal with on the court and off the court.

It definitely shows - like I said before, ice in his veins... He's cooler than the other side of the pillow.

LonghornDub · 05-09-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Your edit here is actually what I meant by "turn the corner" - not talent-wise, but attitude-wise...

I assumed you did. The post you were responding to was sort of ambiguous, though.

Underdog · 05-09-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I assumed you did. The post you were responding to was sort of ambiguous, though.

It was more biguous in my head...

(you get to make up new words when your team sweeps the champs in the 2nd round!)

Kidd Karma · 05-09-2011, 12:02 PM

I think this series Jet was amazing, he played within the structure of the offense, moving the ball around, when he got the hot hand, teammates were looking for him clearing space for him. The thing is even if he went 4-11, Mavs would have won the game, the attitude he has now in terms of playing as a team, facilitating the offense, moving the ball around, letting the game come to him, rather than just chucking for the the sake of chucking.

fluid.forty.one · 05-09-2011, 06:43 PM

Another sub-plot for JET... I think he took the loss to Miami almost as hard as Dirk did. He has been waiting to face them again.

I think, IF we make the finals and face Miami, JET will go ape-shit crazy. I'm not sure if it will be enough because I think Miami would be our toughest match up, but no way does he go out there and lay an egg.

Underdog · 05-09-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Another sub-plot for JET... I think he took the loss to Miami almost as hard as Dirk did. He has been waiting to face them again.

I think, IF we make the finals and face Miami, JET will go ape-shit crazy. I'm not sure if it will be enough because I think Miami would be our toughest match up, but no way does he go out there and lay an egg.

LeBron/Wade/Bosh have yet to beat Dallas as a trio (0-2) and none of them have had much luck against us individually since 2006.

If JET somehow manages maintain this level of play against Miami (assuming either of us make the Finals), not even the refs will be able to save them...

LonghornDub · 05-09-2011, 07:17 PM

I'm not sure Miami is our toughest matchup. They have two great players and a bunch of junk. Bosh is garbage. We have an immense size and talent advantage in the frontcourt. Concede some baskets to LeBron and Wade and shut down the rest. They have nobody that can guard Dirk, especially with a Haslem coming off a massive injury. They don't have a fierce Shaq+Zo paint presence to clog the lane on defense for their zone like the '06 team did.

dude1394 · 05-09-2011, 07:21 PM

I'm really through worrying about who the heck we play. Bring 'em all on, if we are the best, we'll win it, if not, well not.

mavsman · 05-09-2011, 08:20 PM

Fun fact question, cause I didn't read it all: Those 86 pts our bench scored yesterday must rank really high in NBA playoff history. Anybody got the stats?

BGMaverick9 · 05-09-2011, 09:39 PM

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I'm not sure Miami is our toughest matchup. They have two great players and a bunch of junk. Bosh is garbage. We have an immense size and talent advantage in the frontcourt. Concede some baskets to LeBron and Wade and shut down the rest. They have nobody that can guard Dirk, especially with a Haslem coming off a massive injury. They don't have a fierce Shaq+Zo paint presence to clog the lane on defense for their zone like the '06 team did.

Plus Bosh needs a change of shorts the second the road crowd starts chanting. It's a bad look.