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8-3: Mavs buck Milwaukee in OT
2nd night of back-to-backs, no Marion, no Howard, no Damp - no problem!
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11-16-2009, 10:53 PM
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11-16-2009, 10:54 PM
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Amazing. Dirk is the man.
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11-16-2009, 10:55 PM
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Dallas's depth is certainly paying off.
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11-16-2009, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Dallas's depth is certainly paying off.
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agreed... btw Brent Barry is a much better analyst than his brother Jon... though he was better at everything than Jon so it's not surprising
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11-16-2009, 10:57 PM
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I hope this is the break out game for Gooden, now for the consistency..
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11-16-2009, 11:01 PM
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I hope this is the break out game for Gooden, now for the consistency..
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Amen to that...
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11-17-2009, 10:47 AM
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I hope this is the break out game for Gooden, now for the consistency..
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Just had a couple of comments.... when we signed Gooden I went to boards of his previous teams and was left with the feeling that he would have "break out" type games and follow them up with games that frustrate you.... which sounded like Dampier to me. I too hope he can find his niche on this team and be consistent.
As for the game... man Dirk is awesome. And Beaubois is fun to watch. It's been a few years since I can remember having a guard with such speed on the team (JUST KIDDING!!!! NOT GONNA GO THERE, well except I did.... in jest).
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11-16-2009, 10:58 PM
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Insane how no J-Ho, no Damp, no Marion, no TThomas... and Mavs gut this final end of the road trip out at 3-1... please be healthy all year Mavs
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11-16-2009, 10:58 PM
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Good stuff good stuff, 2nd place baby! Great buzzer beater, Gooden was monster.
But i hope Marion's injury isn't serious, will need him weds.
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11-16-2009, 10:59 PM
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good win... considering our history in milwaukee....
and missing 3 of our best 5 defenders in the second half with damp, marion and howard
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11-16-2009, 11:00 PM
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Dirk is the man, period.
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11-16-2009, 11:02 PM
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good win... considering our history in milwaukee...
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That's why history stays in the past...
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11-16-2009, 11:02 PM
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Deciding to play Roddy in OT really changed the game. The block at the end of the game was huge, but he played great defense the entire quarter. Jennings only scored 2 in the OT period, both on free throws.
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11-16-2009, 11:04 PM
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Also, I love how the ESPN front page tells how "Jennings played his first game after dropping 55, netting 25", not even mentioning that, you now, Dirk won it on a game winner...
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11-16-2009, 11:19 PM
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Also, I love how the ESPN front page tells how "Jennings played his first game after dropping 55, netting 25", not even mentioning that, you now, Dirk won it on a game winner...
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Seriously, are you surprised?
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11-16-2009, 11:41 PM
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Also, I love how the ESPN front page tells how "Jennings played his first game after dropping 55, netting 25", not even mentioning that, you now, Dirk won it on a game winner...
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F ESPN, we're not talking about them, we're talking about Dirk and his sexyness.
Who cares what ESPN puts on their webpage anyway.
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11-16-2009, 11:44 PM
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Also, I love how the ESPN front page tells how "Jennings played his first game after dropping 55, netting 25", not even mentioning that, you now, Dirk won it on a game winner...
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Its coo, they at least featured it at the beginning of sports center.
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11-16-2009, 11:04 PM
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Great game by Dirk and Kidd but I am very pleased about Gooden and Roddy!
I defended R.C. on the S.A. game ONLY because the team didn't give this effort that night. He ran with JJB too long again. It really needs to be adjusted like the way he had it in O.T. Roddy should be in the game until proven otherwise. His defense was great, at least compared to JJ's, he had Jennings number.
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11-16-2009, 11:07 PM
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Great game by Dirk and Kidd but I am very pleased about Gooden and Roddy!
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Yeah, those two really made up for the absence of Damp, Josh and Marion - great effort from both of them...
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11-16-2009, 11:09 PM
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Lol NBA gametime is making fun of Dirks attempted chest bump with JJB, good stuff. Gave me a good chuckle.
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11-16-2009, 11:16 PM
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Lol NBA gametime is making fun of Dirks attempted chest bump with JJB, good stuff. Gave me a good chuckle.
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Yup, I saw that. Although I had to wait about 20 minutes until they actually talked about the game...despite the dramatics and the fact that, you know, they were following that game.
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11-16-2009, 11:35 PM
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Yup, I saw that. Although I had to wait about 20 minutes until they actually talked about the game...despite the dramatics and the fact that, you know, they were following that game.
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Hah, really? Dang, I missed it. I pointed this out right away to my dad who was watching it with me. JJB was like "yeah, great game winner, but I'm not about to get bumped into the first row for it."
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11-16-2009, 11:16 PM
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This team showed alot of fight tonight and I'm still in shock with that game winner Dirk hit.
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11-16-2009, 11:17 PM
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Man. Driving when Dirk hits a game-winner like that is kinda dangerous... would have been an awesome last moment of my life though!
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11-16-2009, 11:21 PM
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JJ does as man bad things as he does good things. He seems to be a good shooter and have a nice stroke BUT he takes bad shots quite a bit and tries to do too much. To compound that he is being outplayed on defense by a rookie. He isn't gonna be able to keep all those minutes, Roddy looks like he is going to demand them. That is probably the ideal way for this (integration) to pan out too. All the talk about R.C. force feeding him minutes or baby him along stuff just may not ever come into play. So far he is making it a no brainer!
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11-16-2009, 11:24 PM
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I hate the Kidd/Barea/JET lineup (mainly because we're too easily exploited on defense), but fault shouldn't rest solely on JJB's shoulders - he works just fine in a Kidd/Barea/Marion (or Josh) lineup... Just like Dirk, he's not good enough on D to be effective next to another weak defender (JJB/JET = Dirk/Bass, kinda...)
We need Marion back ASAP!
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11-16-2009, 11:26 PM
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Roddy needs minutes. When they say he is Rondo with a jumpshot, I believe them. The dude has Inspector Gadget like arms! And with those arms he can be a beast defensively. And offensively he can catch alley oops, as well as shoot 3s, and get to the rim.....
Give the kid minutes at the expense of Barea.
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11-16-2009, 11:34 PM
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Roddy needs minutes. When they say he is Rondo with a jumpshot, I believe them. The dude has Inspector Gadget like arms! And with those arms he can be a beast defensively. And offensively he can catch alley oops, as well as shoot 3s, and get to the rim.....
Give the kid minutes at the expense of Barea.
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His length is very very nice. Reminds me of Barbosa in that aspect. His length certainly bothered Jennings in SL and tonight. He still seems lost on team defense at times, but that will get better with minutes. His man defense looks good. His jumpshot seems very fluid and he's definitely quick to the cup. He has had some nice drives to the hoop, dishing to the cutter. Haven't seen much on the drive and kick out front, but the drive and dish to the cutter he definitely has down. I cannot fathomably see any justification for RC not to cut into JJB's minutes with Roddy. Hopefully OT was a start for RC.
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11-16-2009, 11:34 PM
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Roddy needs minutes. When they say he is Rondo with a jumpshot, I believe them. The dude has Inspector Gadget like arms! And with those arms he can be a beast defensively. And offensively he can catch alley oops, as well as shoot 3s, and get to the rim.....
Give the kid minutes at the expense of Barea.
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The kid has value on this team...that is saying something.
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11-16-2009, 11:31 PM
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Milwaukee got DIRKED.
The end.
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11-16-2009, 11:31 PM
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I know everyone is going to be sucking on Dirk and that is fine because his shot was big and Dirklike...he is the man. BUT Goodens tip in was just as big, without that we don't go to O.T. That was flat out smarts meeting hustle. He was refreshing, thats what I saw in the preseason.
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11-16-2009, 11:36 PM
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I know everyone is going to be sucking on Dirk and that is fine because his shot was big and Dirklike...he is the man. BUT Goodens tip in was just as big, without that we don't go to O.T. That was flat out smarts meeting hustle. He was refreshing, thats what I saw in the preseason.
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Gooden was big tonight.
Players of the Game
1. Dirk (just for game winner)
2. Gooden
3. Kidd
4. Roddy
5. JET
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11-16-2009, 11:48 PM
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I love that the Mavs won, but seriously, have you ever seen a team that seems to play so bad so often, and somehow wins the game? I mean, we continue to miss laypups, point blank jumpers(JET, who used to be money on these 12 footers), and allow the opponents to drive the lane with impunity.
And what was with all the standing around while the player with the ball dribbles the shot clock away in the 4th qtr and OT? Nobody was setting picks or cutting to the goal. I hate those isolation plays, with the possible exception of Dirk, who can actually make something good happen.
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I love that the Mavs won, but seriously, have you ever seen a team that seems to play so bad so often, and somehow wins the game? I mean, we continue to miss laypups, point blank jumpers(JET, who used to be money on these 12 footers), and allow the opponents to drive the lane with impunity.
And what was with all the standing around while the player with the ball dribbles the shot clock away in the 4th qtr and OT? Nobody was setting picks or cutting to the goal. I hate those isolation plays, with the possible exception of Dirk, who can actually make something good happen.
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Playing poorly and still winning is exactly what championship teams (or 67-win teams that lose in the first round) do. It is absolutely impossible to play well for anywhere near 82 games. What makes a team really good is winning most of the time when it plays well and winning some of the time when it plays poorly.
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Originally Posted by tgfan
I love that the Mavs won, but seriously, have you ever seen a team that seems to play so bad so often, and somehow wins the game? I mean, we continue to miss laypups, point blank jumpers(JET, who used to be money on these 12 footers), and allow the opponents to drive the lane with impunity.
And what was with all the standing around while the player with the ball dribbles the shot clock away in the 4th qtr and OT? Nobody was setting picks or cutting to the goal. I hate those isolation plays, with the possible exception of Dirk, who can actually make something good happen.
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Coming into tonight the Bucks were 4th in the league in defensive efficiency and we shot 51%. I wouldn't call this a bad night. Give the Bucks some credit for getting hot midway through the 3rd and having enough left in the tank to stay close in the 4th when it looked like we might extend the lead again. They're a dangerous team.
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11-17-2009, 02:58 PM
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I love that the Mavs won, but seriously, have you ever seen a team that seems to play so bad so often, and somehow wins the game? I mean, we continue to miss laypups, point blank jumpers(JET, who used to be money on these 12 footers), and allow the opponents to drive the lane with impunity.
And what was with all the standing around while the player with the ball dribbles the shot clock away in the 4th qtr and OT? Nobody was setting picks or cutting to the goal. I hate those isolation plays, with the possible exception of Dirk, who can actually make something good happen.
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That's the difference between Kidd and Barea, Kidd will force you to move and pay attention, Barea's out there pouonding the rock. We need much more movement, in turn it creates easy buckets. This is the NBA today. Isolation. I remember when Kidd first got to the Nets, they got so many easy buckets, using the Princeton offense, back cuts, give and gos, lots of weakside action. I thought their biggest mistake was essentially moving KVH for Rogers as the shooter. KVH went to Philly for Deke and Rogers was signed to their MLE at the time. Rogers was horrid. Even though KVH was not consistent, but that homerun threat parked out there, created wide open driving, cutting and passing lanes. The Mavs have the tools to run something very similar. With Dirk and jet on the perimeter, JHo and Marion slashing, Kidd running the floor and Damp setting the back weakside picks. Unfortunately for whatever reason, it is not run. Any team running this type of offense is at a huge advantage because it is rare for any team to see it, ala the NFL's 3-4 defense.
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That's the difference between Kidd and Barea, Kidd will force you to move and pay attention, Barea's out there pouonding the rock. We need much more movement, in turn it creates easy buckets. This is the NBA today. Isolation.
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Thats what i hate the most on NBA these days. There are so many teams that (on a last possession) not even try to create a nice shot opportunity.
Sammy superstar gets the ball, clock is running down and then he just run into the crowd under the basket for a layup (because defenders cant defend anymore) or to get the call for the slighest touch...make me puke.
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11-16-2009, 11:34 PM
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If Marion is healthy and ready to go for Wednesday, I will sh*t myself with glee. I just don't see it happening.
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11-16-2009, 11:44 PM
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I know people are mad at Rick Carlisle for playing JJ to much but you have to give Rick some credit for his gameplan tonight....Jennings only had 25 point's and most people thought Jennings was gonna go off on Dallas, I'm not suprised by the job Roddy did on Jennings because Roddy did the same thing to him in summer leauge, the Mavs where coming off a back to back and missing 3 starters and still won so I give the game ball to the entire team for not giving up.
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