12-11-2009, 10:38 PM
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16-7: Seriously, no recap?
DAMP = BAMF
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12-11-2009, 10:41 PM
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i missed the game tonight but i'm looking at the stat line, looks like damp dominated, anything else notable to talk about? anyone look especially good/bad?
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12-11-2009, 10:44 PM
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Ladies and gents, we got them, we got them good!
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12-11-2009, 10:47 PM
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I miss the great recaps we used to have.
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12-11-2009, 10:47 PM
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12-11-2009, 10:48 PM
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16-7. Delete thread, ban user.
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12-11-2009, 10:50 PM
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hurry and do it before he cracks 10,000
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12-11-2009, 10:54 PM
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Putting 15-7 there screwed our mojo for the rest of the year. Way to go, UD.
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12-11-2009, 11:25 PM
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Barea was awesome.
Big Damp was a giant amongst men.
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12-11-2009, 11:27 PM
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12-11-2009, 11:43 PM
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sums it up nicely
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12-11-2009, 11:43 PM
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I thought our guys really brought a lot of energy tonight. I don't remember many possessions at all where we just ISO'd someone and let them spend 15 seconds standing there and then shoot a jumper. There was a lot of off-the-ball movement, a lot of passing, and a lot of stuff going on in the paint. I thought it was a great effort.
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12-11-2009, 11:45 PM
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MIAMI -- Good thing the NBA title isn't decided in the regular season, or the Miami Heat probably wouldn't have a championship banner swaying from their rafters.
Unless it's June, they just can't beat the Dallas Mavericks.
Dirk Nowitzki scored 25 points, Erick Dampier finished with 20 points and 17 rebounds, and the Mavericks added to Miami's home woes with an 106-93 win Friday night -- their 11th straight regular-season victory over the Heat since March 2004.
"They're a good team," said Heat guard Dwyane Wade, the MVP of Miami's six-game win over Dallas in the 2006 NBA finals. "It's as simple as that."
Jason Terry scored 16 points, J.J. Barea added 12 points and 10 assists, and former Heat forward Shawn Marion scored 12 for Southwest Division-leading Dallas. The Mavs never trailed and are 9-4 on the road, more wins away from home than anyone so far in the Western Conference.
"We were fortunate they missed some shots early they normally make," Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. "As the game went on, our shot making was pretty good."
Wade scored 28 points and matched a career high with 11 rebounds for the Heat, 2-5 at home since Nov. 10. Udonis Haslem made his first eight shots and finished with 22 points and 10 rebounds for otherwise cool-shooting Miami, which started 0 for 10 from the floor and was in a double-digit hole by the time the game was 5 minutes old.
Michael Beasley added 16 points and 11 rebounds for the Heat, who got 11 points from Mario Chalmers. Jason Kidd finished with 10 assists for Dallas, which had 30 as a team compared with 14 by Miami.
"Give them credit, they played well," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "They moved the ball, 30 assists, they played unselfishly. They played good basketball tonight."
Wade shot only 8 of 24, and left with a brace protecting his right hand. Wade said he got hurt after trying to get past Nowitzki for a layup and falling hard to the floor.
The Mavericks had a 24-7 lead with 3:28 left in the first, and every time the Heat drew near, Dallas hit the gas and pulled away again.
Miami got within three points five times in the second quarter, never any closer. It was 53-46 at the half, and the start of the third quarter was nearly as dominant for Dallas as the start of the first.
The Mavs opened the second half on a 10-4 run, a pair of 3-pointers from Kidd -- his only field goals in 36 minutes -- serving as the big blows. Dallas' starting five combined to shoot 8 for 10 from the floor in the third period, stretching the lead back to 15 at one point before settling on an 84-73 edge entering the final quarter.
"It's very difficult for a team to come back from a deficit like that," Barea said. "Sometimes it is very tiring. I believe they got tired."
And with boxing star Floyd Mayweather Jr. courtside, just a few steps from the Dallas bench, the Mavs landed the knockout blow.
Drew Gooden came off the Mavericks' bench to score five points in the first 1:33 of the fourth quarter, the Dallas lead was quickly built back to 17, and Miami's fate was sealed.
"We knew they were going to fight back," Nowitzki said. "Any time you have a player like Wade and talented players around him, they aren't just going to lay down."
Take away Haslem's 9 for 10 night, and the rest of the Heat were 24 for 72 -- just 33 percent. A four-day layoff following a West coast trip probably didn't help.
"Flat," Wade said.
Miami was without starting center Jermaine O'Neal, who missed the game to remain with relatives in South Carolina following a family funeral. He is expected to work out Saturday in Miami and play Sunday when the Heat host the Memphis Grizzlies.
They could have clearly used O'Neal against Dampier, who controlled the paint.
"When you double team, you're going to give up something," Dampier said. "They double-teamed Dirk tonight and it gave guys open shots or hit me for easy shots around the basket."
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12-12-2009, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
DAMP = BAMF
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Hey!! Greatness....He is a bad,bad man.
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12-12-2009, 01:06 AM
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Jho took too many J's and 3's for me though.
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12-12-2009, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dmavs1980
Jho took too many J's and 3's for me though.
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Were they wide open or contested?
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12-12-2009, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan
Were they wide open or contested?
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Open, as I recall. Still, it wasn't just open at the 3 pt line, it was generally an open lane all the way to the hoop. He should always drive in that situation. The one time he did, he got an easy 6-foot floater to drop.
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12-12-2009, 04:07 AM
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Barea and Damp were studs tonight. Damp did a great job of shutting down the middle and finishing down low, and Barea did a great job finding the open man, setting off the ball screens (which is really weird to see a 5'10" guy set a screen for a 7' guy), and even drawing a couple of turnovers. I mean, this team has a lot of superstars, but if we can get production like that out of those guys then good night nurse.
Side note: underrated tonight: Kidd and Marion's defense.
JET also seemed to be putting up a lot of 3s that caught too much iron. Josh wasn't aggressive, but that's to be expected at this stage in the recovery I guess. Offense and interior defense looked flat out awful tonight with dirk and damp out of there (read, with Gooden in there), but with the starting frontcourt in, it was a beautiful thing to behold.
The team just looked so versatile out there. 2 capable ballhandlers (kidd/barea/terry) in there always, potent deep threats, strong inside defense. I'm very impressed with our lineup. And when they play smart (aggressive defense, excellent ball rotation - we moved to #3 in the league in assist ratio tonight>, good rebounding, getting out in transition) this team looks awesome.
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12-12-2009, 04:54 PM
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I mean, this team has a lot of superstars
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I guess you don't know what a "superstar" is.
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12-12-2009, 05:47 PM
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I guess you don't know what a "superstar" is.
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man ain't it the truth..and the one that IS on the team must be WAY underappreciated.
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12-12-2009, 08:39 AM
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You know what's stunning? We're getting to the point that Dwyane Wade shoots 8-24 from the floor and we don't really even mention the defensive effort. What an incredible luxury it is to have such a flexible perimeter defense.
Another nice game from Barea. Playing the majority of his minutes with our starting lineup has had a predictably positive effect on his performance and numbers.
Marion tweaked his left ankle a little bit; hope he's ok to go tonight.
I'm about ready to call Drew Gooden the dumbest basketball player I've ever watched on a regular basis. He wasn't horrible last night (although he's starting to get exposed by people attacking the rim), but he just makes so many nonsensical decisions on the court. It can be very frustrating.
Very nice win last night.
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12-12-2009, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
You know what's stunning? We're getting to the point that Dwyane Wade shoots 8-24 from the floor and we don't really even mention the defensive effort. What an incredible luxury it is to have such a flexible perimeter defense.
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I've never worried about his FG%, but always his FTA...
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12-12-2009, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
I'm about ready to call Drew Gooden the dumbest basketball player I've ever watched on a regular basis. He wasn't horrible last night (although he's starting to get exposed by people attacking the rim), but he just makes so many nonsensical decisions on the court. It can be very frustrating.
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Very unfortunately, I might be right there with you soon.
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12-12-2009, 09:39 AM
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Very unfortunately, I might be right there with you soon.
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LOL I kinda agree. The funniest thing to me is his D...he will start jumping around and the player will just keep dribbling. Drew finally jumps for no apparent reason and by the time he lands the [player i by him and making a lay up. He makes some bad Offensive decisions too...but I have seen dumber players.
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12-12-2009, 09:36 AM
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"The big fella has to play, plain and simple," Jason Terry said. "We got to have Erick Dampier on the court. I don’t care what team we’re playing against — big lineup, little lineup, what have you. He has to be out there. He’s having an outstanding year and whatever we have to do to keep him out there, we have to do."
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12-12-2009, 09:56 AM
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Gooden has got to have the lowest IQ on the team. Bar none. He has a lot of skill, but you can see why he doesn't get more PT. He looks like a rookie out there on most days.
The two plays last night I remember is the offensive inteference, and him fouling Wade 30 feet from the hoop when they were in the bonus.
And there is always a play or two where he doesn't pass the ball (swing it) but instead goes 1 on 5... bricking his layup attempt.
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12-12-2009, 10:06 AM
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posted this in the game day thread -should have posted it here
...................................DALLAS......... .......MIAMI
Points................................106......... ..........93
FG Made-Attempted..........39-80 (.488).......33-82 (.402)
3P Made-Attempted..........10-25 (.400).........2-12 (.167)
FT Made-Attempted..........18-23 (.783).........25-32 (.781)
Rebounds (Offensive-Total).....7-42..............12-46
Assists..................................30....... ...........14
Turnovers..............................10......... .........10
Steals....................................5....... .............4
Blocks....................................4....... .............6
Fast Break Points.....................7...................6
Fouls (Tech/Flagrant)...........26 (0/0)..........18 (1/0)
Largest Lead..........................17.................. ..0
look at the assists --- we were really swinging the ball
when was the last time we had 2 guards with 10 assists in the same game??
look at the foul differential--26 for Mavs -to- 18 for Heat
ever notice how "whistle" and "wade" both start with "W"
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12-12-2009, 01:15 PM
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Destruction.
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12-12-2009, 07:38 PM
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I didn't see the game, but just from watching the highlights you can see the outstanding ball movement. Maybe not any 5 people touch the ball on 8 passes crap, like the Cavs did vs us a couple weeks ago, but good passes finding the open man. Lots of hockey assists.
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