05-03-2012, 11:18 PM
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PGT: 0-3 Mavs fold, fake-ass Mavs "fans" gloat about predicting the loss
I hope it feels good to be right when you bet against your team - I got to be right last year when these same people were predicting a quick playoff exit (although they'll deny it now), and it felt damn good to watch my Mavs piss in their Cheerios.
Enjoy your victory, fellas...
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05-03-2012, 11:18 PM
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Whatever, bullshit season.
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05-03-2012, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I hope it feels good to be right when you bet against your team - I got to be right last year when these same people were predicting a quick playoff exit (although they'll deny it now), and it felt damn good to watch my Mavs piss in their Cheerios.
Enjoy your victory, fellas...
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oh high and mighty Underdog
You speak as if those taking punches at how bad we are and how we have no chance aren't simply Mavs fans that like to play the pessimist card and hope for better.
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05-03-2012, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
oh high and mighty Underdog
You speak as if those taking punches at how bad we are and how we have no chance aren't simply Mavs fans that like to play the pessimist card and hope for better.
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Is that what you were doing when you made this thread after a loss in the Portland series on our way to winning a ring?
Neat spin...
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05-03-2012, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Is that what you were doing when you made this thread after a loss in the Portland series on our way to winning a ring?
Neat spin...
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neat attitude.
Should I give you a puppy treat?
Don't know whats worse: negative fans or holier-than-thou jerks that think they are winning points by making fun of others.
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05-04-2012, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Is that what you were doing when you made this thread after a loss in the Portland series on our way to winning a ring?
Neat spin...
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Ahem...I'll just point out that the referenced thread was created well before the playoffs even started. April 6, 2011, to be exact. After a regular-season loss at Portland.
I don't mean to slam Erica (although I think she should never live down good-natured ribbing from creating that thread), though. More generally, it seems people just deal with potential disappointment in different ways. Some people combat it preemptively by setting expectations very, very low. For my money, that approach is personally burdensome and damaging in the long term, but that's just my take on this.
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05-04-2012, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Ahem...I'll just point out that the referenced thread was created well before the playoffs even started. April 6, 2011, to be exact. After a regular-season loss at Portland.
I don't mean to slam Erica (although I think she should never live down good-natured ribbing from creating that thread), though. More generally, it seems people just deal with potential disappointment in different ways. Some people combat it preemptively by setting expectations very, very low. For my money, that approach is personally burdensome and damaging in the long term, but that's just my take on this.
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Much better said than my snarky remark. Thank you.
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05-03-2012, 11:21 PM
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I'm not even mad at the players, but I'm mighty pissed at management though...
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05-04-2012, 03:59 AM
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I'm not even mad at the players, but I'm mighty pissed at management though...
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Well, I, for once, am very mad at the players. It's like they refused to put their hearts on the floor. I mean, really, Dirk? That was some Kobe vs PHX game 7 sh*t in the 2nd half.
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05-03-2012, 11:21 PM
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ok. time for stage of acceptance.
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05-04-2012, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by beatLA
ok. time for stage of acceptance.
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Yep.
Rest in peace world champion Dallas Mavericks. We hardly knew you, but we loved you while we had you.
Thanks for the magic and the memories Dirk. You're the greatest.
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05-03-2012, 11:22 PM
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Can't wait until this team is a contender again.
Wonder what it would take to trade for Tyson Chandler.
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05-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nowhereman
Can't wait until this team is a contender again.
Wonder what it would take to trade for Tyson Chandler.
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Some picks and some youth so the Knicks can blow it up for the 5th time in 12 years?
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05-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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Hahahah if I'm one of those people you're implying, this is hilarious!
I'm not happy the mavs lost. I just think a bunch of the mav fans on here are unbelievably delusional. That includes you. You said the mavs were going to win the next 4 after game 2! Come on man! Just because you called one playoff season right last year doesn't make you a basketball genius.
So stop saying we are gloating. I can't speak for everyone, but a lot of people who said we weren't going to win were looking at things realistically. This team is horrible. And still, game after game, I would see people like you making excuses.
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05-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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This team jut never got in synch this season. Whether it be because of injuries, the condensed season, and of course the Lamar Odom fiasco. I just hope the Mavs win one game to stave off elimination.
Just about time to prepare for next season and hopefully a big FA splash.
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05-04-2012, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
This team jut never got in synch this season. Whether it be because of injuries, the condensed season, and of course the Lamar Odom fiasco. I just hope the Mavs win one game to stave off elimination.
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They never had the pieces. That's all. Cuban didn't get them... and he failed to get them intentionally. Everything happened the way it was supposed to, really.
I'm not saying it's a good plan, but we shouldn't be disappointed.
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05-04-2012, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JHT
I'm not saying it's a good plan, but we shouldn't be disappointed.
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We simply should not have watched this s*. Such a waste of time.
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05-04-2012, 12:43 AM
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We simply should not have watched this s*. Such a waste of time.
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Now that's 100% true.
Normally I wouldn't say that... but because of the lockout none of the games have really been enjoyable this year. It's been a horrible year, horrible waste of time.
NBA should refund NBA League Pass subscribers who root for any team that doesn't make the conference finals for stealing them blind and Cuban should pitch in for intentionally putting out a half-assed roster.
It's one thing if you try and fail, it's another if you don't try, but pretend to so people will still give you their money, and then also still fail.
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05-04-2012, 12:45 AM
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Players the Mavs should definitely keep:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Ian Mahimi
3. Rodrigue Beaubois (but only because he's relatively young still)
Otherwise, whatever. Would be nice to keep Marion, but do what you've gotta do. Even if the Mavs somehow get DWill (which I doubt) most of this team needs to be swept out for youth. If you can keep a Terry and a Marion and still do that, great. If not, oh well.
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05-04-2012, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JHT
Cuban should pitch in for intentionally putting out a half-assed roster.
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- WORST ROSTER IN THE CUBAN ERA. BY FAR.
- WORST BASKETBALL IN THE CUBAN ERA. BY FAR.
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05-04-2012, 03:13 AM
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This strike shortened season has been the least enjoybale season for me in many years. I'll be glad when it's over, and extra happy if D. Wade gets 1 year closer to retirement without another ring. Am I still bitter about the first Final loss to the Heat by Dallas? You better believe it!
Still, I'm very happy for Dirk and the other guys from last year. It was a fantastic ride, and I'll never forget it. I'd love to see Dirk get another ring or two, but hey, he's got one, and that ain't too shabby - just ask Charles Barkley if he'd like one. :-)
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05-03-2012, 11:25 PM
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The Mavs were in a tough position. I felt that they were not going to win the championship again and it is better to find the replacement. The Mavs did sacrifice a year. I can live with that.
The only way to improve is to sign a big free agwnt, or land a superstar in the draft. Re-signing their own players wasn't going to make that happen. So better to cut ties and try and land someone when you have a chance.
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05-03-2012, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayliss
The Mavs were in a tough position. I felt that they were not going to win the championship again and it is better to find the replacement. The Mavs did sacrifice a year. I can live with that.
The only way to improve is to sign a big free agwnt, or land a superstar in the draft. Re-signing their own players wasn't going to make that happen. So better to cut ties and try and land someone when you have a chance.
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Totally agree.
As humiliating as a first round exit is, losing in any round this year could have been a deathknell and we'd spend years living it down. We hope for a freeagent, work some magic with our assets and hope our draft pick works out. Nothing is a sure thing but Chandler/JJB weren't either.
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05-04-2012, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayliss
The Mavs were in a tough position. I felt that they were not going to win the championship again and it is better to find the replacement. The Mavs did sacrifice a year. I can live with that.
The only way to improve is to sign a big free agwnt, or land a superstar in the draft. Re-signing their own players wasn't going to make that happen. So better to cut ties and try and land someone when you have a chance.
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Same here. We had a great run last year, everything came together, it was perfect. This season, we were never going to win it all anyway, maybe second round, maybe third, no way we were going to repeat with the same team. Because of the lockout, this season is forgettable, it never felt right, I don't even care about the playoffs. Let LeBron win or the Thunder, I won't watch it. Now, if we can land Deron and sign some quality role players, we will be in a great position to play a full normal regular season, come together, and make some noise in next year's playoffs. Dirk getting 4 months of rest this summer won't hurt our chances either.
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05-03-2012, 11:26 PM
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No ones gloating. Our heads just arent buried in the said Mr holier than thou. Team needs to be rebuilt bottom line. And I wasnt one predicting a loss. I said Mavs still have a chance if they get a win tonight. It was obvious that wasnt happening after the first half. Sad way for the vets to go out. I love this team regardless but changes are coming.
I think at the moment im more mad at Cuban than anyone else. Time will tell though.
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05-03-2012, 11:27 PM
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Any chance at Lamarcus Aldridge in the offseason? Texas native along with another Texas native could brings things back around.
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05-03-2012, 11:28 PM
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Carlisle was horrible. The players were bad but they were never in position to do anything other than desperation one on one attempts. It was the same ineffective high p'n'r over and over. They should have done more post ups for Dirk and more side p'n'r (right side of floor) with Dirk & Terry. He also put the team in a bind going with Haywood for so long and not having confidence in Wright.
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05-04-2012, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Popeye
Carlisle was horrible.
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Nah. Be fair. He had no players. His stars couldn't make a shot to save their lives tonight and his only usable center this entire series has been Ian Mahimi.
Ian proved he's a capable backup in this series, btw. But... he isn't a starter.
Haywood on the other hand, doesn't even belong in the NBA. He's Lamar Odom 2.0 out there.
I'm not sure what Carlisle was supposed to do without a Center and without any of the other pieces he really needed.
Not his fault.
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05-03-2012, 11:29 PM
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I know I'll be slammed, but...I've not been impressed with Carlisle since he got here, even though we won last season. The mavs just blow too many fundamentals of the game. Rampant turnovers due to poor passes, lack of effort on offensive rebounding, constantly not blocking out, not driving and drawing fouls when we get the other team in the penalty early in the quarter, late or nonexistent defensive rotations leading to constant easy layups and dunks. I understand the players have to do all these things, but I wonder if RC is even reminding them about this stuff since these things just keep happening.
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05-03-2012, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tgfan
I know I'll be slammed, but...I've not been impressed with Carlisle since he got here, even though we won last season. The mavs just blow too many fundamentals of the game. Rampant turnovers due to poor passes, lack of effort on offensive rebounding, constantly not blocking out, not driving and drawing fouls when we get the other team in the penalty early in the quarter, late or nonexistent defensive rotations leading to constant easy layups and dunks. I understand the players have to do all these things, but I wonder if RC is even reminding them about this stuff since these things just keep happening.
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Turnovers and lack of rebounding is on the players. Coach is only as good as his players execute.
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05-03-2012, 11:29 PM
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The hope was always that we could put together a "good enough" team without Chandler and with 1 year contracts. Fact is, we just ain't good enough. Last year was the total triumph of team. This team only played together 8 games after the defusing of the Laker time bomb.
Pray for DWill
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05-03-2012, 11:30 PM
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Yeah I'm not even mad at the players at all. They are a little old, a little injured this year. And after winning, I don't believe the full hunger is there.
But I don't blame Cuban either.
Look at payrolls. Which team going forward would you rather be:
The Mavericks or the Knicks?
Exactly. The Mavericks while not as good as last year have flexibility to improve leaps and bounds. The Knicks? Not so much with Amare and Chandler on the books forever. (Btw they amnestied Billups. Mavs still have their amnesty.)
Some just need some perspective.
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05-03-2012, 11:33 PM
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Deron Williams, you better win some rings.
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05-03-2012, 11:35 PM
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no one thinking about a big come back?
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05-03-2012, 11:36 PM
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05-03-2012, 11:38 PM
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Too tired to be angry anymore. It is what it is. Weary, stressed, beaten. With that being said, looking forward to the off season. I know they need the rest.
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The come back should have started tonight. After losing this most important game, it's very tough to imagine a come back at all. Even if we do come back I don't think our guys have the energy to push through LA and whoever else we have to face on the road to the ship.
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05-03-2012, 11:40 PM
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Are we not entitled to be legit pissed when the MBT blew up the team that won the championship for Dwight (who won't be coming in the summer for sure, probably never) and Deron who also may never show up?
Oh and one of the guys we let walk was the DPOY, who we traded for won a 'ship the first season we had him but let him go.
This team will still have issues even if we do get Deron.
Or maybe Deron realizes this himself and chooses not to sign here.
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05-03-2012, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
Are we not entitled to be legit pissed when they MBT blew up the team that won the championship for Dwight (who won't be coming in the summer for sure, probably never) and Deron who also may never show up?
Oh and one of the guys we let walk was the DPOY, who we traded for won a 'ship the first season we had him but let him go.
This team will still have issues even if we do get Deron.
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ya, ive been saying it all season and getting slammed by every stupid ass fucking "guru" here.
pretty much every single expert here is a fucking ass, and the only reason they even read anyone elses posts is to see if they are referring to their own.
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05-03-2012, 11:45 PM
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ya, ive been saying it all season and getting slammed by every stupid ass fucking "guru" here.
pretty much every single expert here is a fucking ass, and the only reason they even read anyone elses posts is to see if they are referring to their own.
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A lot of us felt the same way about the whole TC situation. The way that played out will continue to be a hotly debated topic.
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05-03-2012, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs
Are we not entitled to be legit pissed when the MBT blew up the team that won the championship for Dwight (who won't be coming in the summer for sure, probably never) and Deron who also may never show up?
Oh and one of the guys we let walk was the DPOY, who we traded for won a 'ship the first season we had him but let him go.
This team will still have issues even if we do get Deron.
Or maybe Deron realizes this himself and chooses not to sign here.
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thats really a weak argument. We offered chandler a 20 mil 1 year contract. thats more than he is getting paid in nyc. And frankly with dwight now likely not going anywhere we probably would have given him a long term contract after this season. but he wanted the safe bet rather than going out on a (golden) limb.
Anywho.... need to make moves and get younger in the offseason. hoping to get williams and a better center.
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