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Old 12-02-2003, 09:30 PM   #1
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Default How About This Trade: No Trade For Awhile

Since it doesn't look like any quality big men are likely to come the Mavs way because there aren't any (after you get past the few truly good big men who noone is going to trade), how long should we give this team? How about no trades? How about going after a young point guard? How about picking up a big body as well?
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:05 AM   #2
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Since it doesn't look like any quality big men are likely to come the Mavs way because there aren't any (after you get past the few truly good big men who noone is going to trade), how long should we give this team? How about no trades? How about going after a young point guard? How about picking up a big body as well?
Certainly the only untouchable bigs are those that are of all star caliber and obviously it is not difficult to see that we do not need an all star caliber big man to make ourselves a more competitive team. The key date is december 20th. If any type of trade should happen then it will most likely be on or beyond this date. Until then all we can do is speculate on what the mavericks need and guess what Cuban has in his bag of tricks because trade rumors messing with our players heads is the last thing Nellie and Cubes want so im sure they will be fairly discrete about any propositions suggested.
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:18 AM   #3
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Since it doesn't look like any quality big men are likely to come the Mavs way because there aren't any (after you get past the few truly good big men who noone is going to trade), how long should we give this team? How about no trades? How about going after a young point guard? How about picking up a big body as well?
The no trade is fine with me as the Mavs are loaded at every position except center. They should pick up another big man though to bolster the middle. A veteran who is basketball savy would be excellent.
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Since it doesn't look like any quality big men are likely to come the Mavs way because there aren't any (after you get past the few truly good big men who noone is going to trade), how long should we give this team? How about no trades? How about going after a young point guard? How about picking up a big body as well?
smartest thing youve ever said.

If there is someone like Mihm available then we should take it, obviously.
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We do not "need" to trade just for the sake of making a trade, however, if we find ourselves in a situation where we have the opportunity to improve our team then we certainly take advantage of it. I do not agree with the "no trade for a while" statement for this very reason.
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We do not "need" to trade just for the sake of making a trade, however, if we find ourselves in a situation where we have the opportunity to improve our team then we certainly take advantage of it. I do not agree with the "no trade for a while" statement for this very reason.
There is a saying in business "It takes a great meeting to beat no meeting at all." The same can be true for trades. If we have the opportunity to do a great trade, then we should. Otherwise, we're better off with no trade.
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We do not "need" to trade just for the sake of making a trade, however, if we find ourselves in a situation where we have the opportunity to improve our team then we certainly take advantage of it. I do not agree with the "no trade for a while" statement for this very reason.
There is a saying in business "It takes a great meeting to beat no meeting at all." The same can be true for trades. If we have the opportunity to do a great trade, then we should. Otherwise, we're better off with no trade.
It wouldnt even have to be a great trade, just one that would address and improve our most glaring weakness while not giving up too much at the same time.
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We do not "need" to trade just for the sake of making a trade, however, if we find ourselves in a situation where we have the opportunity to improve our team then we certainly take advantage of it. I do not agree with the "no trade for a while" statement for this very reason.
There is a saying in business "It takes a great meeting to beat no meeting at all." The same can be true for trades. If we have the opportunity to do a great trade, then we should. Otherwise, we're better off with no trade.
It wouldnt even have to be a great trade, just one that would address and improve our most glaring weakness while not giving up too much at the same time.

But wouldn't that be a great trade? ie Tony Delk for Mihm. We don't give up anything that costs us much since we have plenty of talent to take up any slack at the postions that Tony was playing. We get a decent player, not a great one but decent, at a position that we're really short. That would be a great trade IMO.

Now if we want to do a trade like one with Atlanta where we send Jamison and Bradley for Shareef and Ratliff. Then even if you consider that a talent upgrade, it's still leaves us short at center and isn't enough to justify a trade. (BTW IMO that trade makes us worse talent wise)
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I can live with the no trade plan until first week of Jan, then take another look. However, all possibilities should be explored in the meantime.

Because I do not think you can get Duncan or Shaq for one of the big 5 and change, I say no one else who can/will play center is worthy of the big 5.

For me, the "untouchables" the rest of this season are Dirk, Steve, Michael, Antwan, Antoine, Josh, and Bradley. Bradley because I do not see anyone available that can bring more than Bradley does for what his contract cost us.

I keep either Najera or Fortson if possible (prefer to keep Najera). The other one I would try and package if it gets some of equal ability but taller.

I like Best and Delk for what they can/will bring to them team but would include them in any package to get better.

My "wish list" is predicated on not giving up much and the type of player we might be able to get, not necessarily what I would hope to get if I could have whoever I wanted.

From the Pacers I would like to take a shot at getting Tinsley and Ugly (Pollard) for what we have to give up. Haven't checked RealGm so don't know what it would take.

Portland has a few players available but not sure I would give up what they want in return.

I would like to see Ely from the Clippers.

Of course, Minh and Diop would be nice additions, both for now and in the future.

I am still sold on Jasmison and I like the potential I see from Walker in the mix with this team.

I jsut wish we had another 6"10'' and up guy who could play 25 minutes at the 5.
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