Tracking the Bills (Dallas draft pick)

[Just211]

I know it's early (real early), but I thought I'd start this to keep track of how high Dallas will pick. Just for shit & giggles[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

<u>after week 2</u>
7 teams tied at 2-0
18 teams tied at 1-1
and
Kansas City
Houston
Miami
San Fran
Arizona
Tampa Bay
and BUFFALO at 0-2

which means right now it would be a top 7 pick.

SO FAR SO GOOD [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

keep it up Bills

[Male30Dan]

It should have been 20 teams tied at 1-1 with that Jacksonville miracle, but thank you Mr. Leftwich!!!

[capitalcity]

I know who i want already.

Antrel Rolle DB 6-1 200 lbs.

hes a stud

he's big time.

[Dooby]

Talk about parity. After two weeks we have seven teams with two wins and seven teams with two losses and eighteen teams with one win and one loss.

[alby]

how high do ya'll think cedric benson will be drafted? just curious..

[alby]

just saw this on dmn.com



AUSTIN – Texas running back Cedric Benson told ESPN Radio's "GameNight" he would rather win the Heisman Trophy than beat Oklahoma.

"If I could win the game entirely by myself – both offense and defense, punt returns, kickoffs, kicking field goals, do everything – then I'd take the win over OU," Benson said. "But for me personally, the hard work I've been through, growing up as a kid and the dream I've had, I'd love nothing more than to win the Heisman."

Cedric Benson has rushed for 379 yards in two games this season. Tell us: What do you think of Benson's comments? Texas coach Mack Brown defended Benson.

"Cedric wants to win or he wouldn't have come back" for his senior year, Brown said. "He could've been drafted by the NFL. Sometimes he gets excited and says things that don't come out the same way in the media as he wants them."

Benson, who is 0-3 against the Sooners, declined to respond to questions about the interview after practice Tuesday.



wtf ced

[FineCubanCigar]

Originally posted by: alby
how high do ya'll think cedric benson will be drafted? just curious..

After watching Cedric everyweek .... i dont believe in my heart he is worthy of a top 12 pick. Thats just my opinion. he has been overhyped outa high school.

[dirno2000]

Watched the Georgia-LSU game which featured the top two DE's in the draft. David Pollack looked damn good. Quick off the end, relentless pursuit and he held his own against the run for a player his size (265). Beside batting down an pass, Marcus Spears didn't do much. Of course some of the credit has to go to Georgia's O-line.

[Just211]

since we're looking at this draft stuff so early, it'll be interesting to watch names rise and fall out of the top of this draft. But it does look like there will be some good defensive players at the top ( Rolle, Johnson, Pollack)

[dirno2000]

Bledsoe just fumbled on a 4th and 2 in NE territory...touchdown Pats!!!

Buffalo falls to 0-3!

[dirno2000]

Teams that were winless at this point last season:

S.D. - 1st pick
Jax - 9th pick
Jets - 12th pick
Bears - 14th pick

Teams that were winless at this point in 2002:

Cincy - 1st pick
St Louis - 12th

Next up for the Bills: at NY Jets (-7)

[Dooby]

Originally posted by: dirno2000
Teams that were winless at this point last season:

S.D. - 1st pick
Jax - 9th pick
Jets - 12th pick
Bears - 14th pick

Teams that were winless at this point in 2002:

Cincy - 1st pick
St Louis - 12th

Next up for the Bills: at NY Jets (-7)

Clarification: Is that through three games or four weeks?

[dirno2000]

Clarification: Is that through three games or four weeks?

It's through 4 weeks. The only one of those teams to have only played 3 games was the 2003 Bears. I probably should have pointed that out, but I'm trying to be optimistic here [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[sike]

we may look back on this trade and praise the Cowboys front office.....lets just hope Julius turn out to be more than a fumble and injury waiting to happen....
keep losing Bills!

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: sike
we may look back on this trade and praise the Cowboys front office.....lets just hope Julius turn out to be more than a fumble and injury waiting to happen....
keep losing Bills!

Even if we get the 30th pick in the draft next season it was still a great deal for the Cowboys. Just the fact we have another first rounder makes it a great deal for the Cowboys even if Julius doesn't turn out well.

[Dooby]

Originally posted by: FilthyFinMavs

Even if we get the 30th pick in the draft next season it was still a great deal for the Cowboys. Just the fact we have another first rounder makes it a great deal for the Cowboys even if Julius doesn't turn out well.

I disagree. For this to be a good trade, this needs to be a very high pick.

We traded a 2004 first for a 2005 first and a 2004 second. If you add all the 2004 and 2005 picks together, we netted a single second rounder; we didn't get an extra first rounder by any stretch of the imagination. If we got the 30th pick in the draft, we effectively traded the 20th pick in 2004 for the 30th pick in 2005 and a 2004 mid-second rounder. That isn't a good trade.

This deal hinges on the Bills sucking. Period.

[giantbenmav]

as a non-biased football fan (Giants are my team) I think Pacells blew it by not taking Stephen Jackson....that kid is a stud.........Jones might be good, he has gamebreaker speed, and I dont think he is injury prone just had bad luck.....

pacells has no problem taking a top-tier LB when his team already has good LB's......remember he took Lawrence Talyor with the 2nd pick when the team already had Harry Carson AND Carl Banks!!!!

but Derrick Johnson is a stud...so is Antrelle Rolle......

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: Dooby

I disagree. For this to be a good trade, this needs to be a very high pick.

We traded a 2004 first for a 2005 first and a 2004 second. If you add all the 2004 and 2005 picks together, we netted a single second rounder; we didn't get an extra first rounder by any stretch of the imagination. If we got the 30th pick in the draft, we effectively traded the 20th pick in 2004 for the 30th pick in 2005 and a 2004 mid-second rounder. That isn't a good trade.

This deal hinges on the Bills sucking. Period.

I guess it matters how much you think of Jones but I didn't think he was any better or any worse than Stephen Jackson or Greg Jones. So the fact that we got the Bills 2nd rounder which wasn't too far from our first rounder and an addiontional 1st rounder for this year to me was a great move by the Cowboys. If it's the last pick in the draft it's still a good deal for the Cowboys. I'd be pretty pissed if we did this deal and we were a lottery team last season but we weren't. We traded them a lower pick and in return got Julius Jones and an additional first rounder. That's a good deal.

[dirno2000]

Thanks to an Elway like drive by Chad Pennington with 3 minutes remaining, the Bill are now 0-4.

Of course, a terrible interception by Pennington set up the Bills' 1st touchdown of the game in the 4th quarter, but don't worry about that so much.

[sike]

well, one first round pick traded for another in about the same location a year later is not something that really gets me excited....but if Jones turns out to be even just a good back and they get another first round pick(especially an early one) that will prove it to be a wonderful move. In other words, if by (passing on Steven Jackson and Greg Jones and) drafting Taking Julius Jones they get a good back and a high first round pick that will be great.

[capitalcity]

Right now - i'm not very excited about julius. Come november i hope my opinion will change.

I believe in Big Bill and his choice of groceries. If picking a RB 40th was no different than choosing a RB at 20 than the move is justified.

However - we've yet to see if Kevin Jones and Stephen Jackson prove to be the real deal and julius flames out. Should that occur the trade must yield a selection in the top 10 for Parcells to escape scrutiny.

Dobby is right on - the Bills gotta suck bad for Parcells to come out smelling like a rose.

[Just211]

TOP 4 after 4 weeks

Tampa 0-4
San Fran 0-4
Miami 0-4
and the BUFFALO BILLS at 0-3



ANd IMO top 10 would be good, but to make it a really nice tradeable pick it probably needs to be top 5, maybe 6. And by tradeable, I mean to move up. Which I would really never see Bill doing, BUT having the option would be great

[Male30Dan]

Tampa will eventually win 6-8 games... Miami will win a couple on defense alone... San Fran will likely finish the season with the worst record... I think Buffalo has a very good chance of finishing with one of the worst records in football... I see no way possible for Dallas to get anything less than the #7 pick in next years draft!!!

[Male30Dan]

Only Miami and Buffalo are without a win at this point... This pick could really turn out good...

Look at Buffalo's schedule from here on and you will see at LEAST 7 more losses on their schedule, (Baltimore, NY, N.E., St. Louis, Seattle, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh), with the remaining 5 games being up in the air, (Miami x2, Arizona, Cleveland, and S.F.)...

Let me repeat, this pick could really turn out good...

[FineCubanCigar]

yay, the loosing ways continue.... Bledsoe has to have 3-4 wins he can pull out almost single-handedly though.

[capitalcity]

Lets go Dolphins!!

[FineCubanCigar]

damn, nothing went our way this week!

[sike]

just so we know...Stephen Jackson has a 6.9 yard per carry average......

[Male30Dan]

It was under 4 during the game against TB

[sike]

under four yards per carry...yeah, I'll take that.

[Male30Dan]

So you would take .1 yards per carry??? Thats under four you know!

[sike]

I will come over there and slap you dan! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[Male30Dan]

Hahaha... Seriously though, I can't make a decision whether or not passing on Jackson was good for the Cowboys until I see what we get back from Buffalo... If Buffalo somehow manages to give us a top 5 pick, it will be VERY hard not to claim Parcells and Jones geniuses... Especially if Jones turns out to be a quality running back!!!

[dalmations202]

The way the Cowboys have been self-destructing lately, they may have 2 top 5 picks next year.

[Male30Dan]

I actually would be all for that... I thought we were much better than we are playing out there and if it continues, I say play for the next several years by getting two high picks... Use those picks, our defense, the play of Henson and Jones, and move this team forward!!!

[dalmations202]

Then why would &lt;edit -- anyone want to&gt; move Bryant? Just play him, he definately has skills.
I don't want them to have to go backwards, just to go forward. But you are correct in Henson and Jones being the future though.

I think the problem I am hearing about is the "too many bulls in the pasture" problem.

Keyshawn comes in with a billing of top bull. Bryant has the same attitude as "just throw me the d@#$ ball". Only Keyshawn has a history with the Big Bull (Tuna). Michael Irvin had that attitude -- not bad for a receiver, but can cause problems with more than one on a team. Deion had that attitude.

I just have seen that the "attitude" gets you on top in sports, and can take you to the bottom. Look at TO...he has it. Look at Ray Lewis, and Jamal Lewis. Look at Michael Jordon. All massive egos and attitudes -- which made them be the best.

Big Bill needs to get Bryant involved and let him show his ability. I think he will end up being a #1 receiver on someones team, whether it be the Cowboys or another team.

[Male30Dan]

I dont WANT to move Bryant... Did you read the other thread about trading him???

[FineCubanCigar]

Na, Bryant shouldn't be moved in my opinion he is one of the best 3rd recievers in the league.

[Male30Dan]

Hell, he will eventually be one of the best 2nd receivers in the league if given the opportunity... I personally don't think that Bryant has the ability to become a GREAT #1, but he sure as hell could become a GREAT #2/Pretty Good #1!!!

[FineCubanCigar]

well, grrrrr