How is a day without Mexicans going? - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 03:23 PM

Wanted to find out how a day without mexicans is going in your neck of the woods. I haven't seen aything of the such. When I woke up this morning, our mexican lawn co. was mowing the lawn at the apartments where I live, then at the gas station, there were mexicans buying gas, food, etc....., then all the mexicans at my work are here and reporting, they all went out to eat for lunch, while I was at the gas station at lunch time I saw numerous mexicans buying gas again as well as food. I thought this was the great rise of the Mexicans to show us what it would be like if there weren't any here. How's that goin?

aexchange · 05-01-2006, 03:49 PM

haven't seen much of an impact.

but just wanted to say in general, that we should probably watch what's said in this thread.

and its not spurred by anything you said 68. just in general.

dude1394 · 05-01-2006, 04:06 PM

I haven't seen any impact, except a lot of children playing hookey.

sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 04:38 PM

Oh, I know. The hispanics at my work don't really care about this at all. They keep syaing I am American. I don't need to go and march.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 04:52 PM

There have been a few (housekeepers, food service, etc) who failed to show up and will be out of work this afternoon but other than that not much. We sub out our housekeeping service and for the most part everyone was there. They allowed those wished to participate the day off. Another company near us had almost half their housekeeping staff not show up and not give any notice. That company is letting those employees go and has begun research into the legal status of their employees. I have a feeling those who didn't show up just screwed over those who did in that case.

I get coffee every monring at a local Starbucks. The manager and my favorite employee were both out on personal days with the blessing of Starbucks. Those employers who allowed their people to participate with notice are doing the right thing imho. Those who just didn't show up and left the employers hanging get what they deserve.

I have no problem with this assembly/protest as long as it remains peacefull. I heard rumors of US flag burning in Los Angeles today. That is horsecrap.

Let us remember that many of these folks are illegally in the United States. They have broken the law. They need to be on their best behavior.

Mavdog · 05-01-2006, 05:13 PM

most aren't "mexicans", they're americans.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavdog

most aren't "mexicans", they're americans.

Source?

There are millions of illegal aliens in the US.

MavKikiNYC · 05-01-2006, 07:29 PM

The instance that I observed today was with a lady who I presume is a home healthcare worker who I see reguarly in my neighborhood with an elderly disabled lady.

She was wearing a button in support of immigrants today, but she was working as usual. She seems to have such regard for her patient (who definitely needs assistance) that she wouldn't take the time off to protest.

Mavdog · 05-01-2006, 06:58 PM

"source". too funny.

there are tens of millions of legal immigrants in the us.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavdog

"source". too funny.

there are tens of millions of legal immigrants in the us.

Yes a source. We know that you like to pull statements like this out of your backside but what is your "source"? It is estimated that millions of illegals cross the border each year so it stands to reason that there would be a chance that they could outnumber the Americans who chose to participate. As you can see above, many of the legal Mexicans are not interested in this garbage. Of course, you are too dense to understand this but we understand your limitations of intellect.

chumdawg · 05-01-2006, 08:04 PM

I just hope that by the end of it all we get another national holiday out of the deal.

Mavdog · 05-01-2006, 08:10 PM

let's see, "assimilated americans day"?

then we'll need an "inidigenous americans day".

Mavdog · 05-01-2006, 09:15 PM

yes, the light bulb isn't burning...

keep up the good work.

sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 09:55 PM

The Mexicans who are legal americans told me at work today that they didn't march or take off work or whatever cause they could care less. They said that they are americans and if illegal immirgrants want to come here then they need to go through the process as they did. The day without a mexican didn't seem to do jack today. My wife, who teaches with about 50% of the teachers being mexican said they were all at work today, none of the kids were out of class, and none of their parents took the day off either.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 09:59 PM

Interesting 6-8. There were several here who took advantage of the day off. I didn't see any large marches but there were a couple of sign holders on the corners.

If a person wants to legally immigrate here, more power to them, but the ones that are creating all of this bull are the ones who expect everything to be handed to them because they illegally entered our country. Those who did so are criminals. They broke a criminal law. That cannot be argued.

Jeremiah · 05-02-2006, 12:57 AM

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Drbio · 05-02-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremiah

Well, it can be, because "they" didn't. It's a violation of the immigration laws, which aren't criminal laws, and don't subject the violators to criminal penalties. Certainly, it is related, and even though you might say the difference is really technical, criminal laws and immigration laws are two different animals that carry two differnt penalties.

You can try to title the law any way you want but you are wrong. They broke a law which is punishable by incarceration and deportation. They are criminals.

MavKikiNYC · 05-02-2006, 03:02 PM

Re: What do immigrants want?

I imagine there are various answers to that question, but the whole debate reminds me of an experience froma couple of years ago.

I was helping a friend manage some fairly small-scale office renovations, and was dealing with a contractor whom he'd engaged. My friend had advanced the contractor a deposit for materials (Mistake #1), and the contractor hired a couple of guys to do a paint job which was going to take 4-5 days. The guys show up to paint, and they're working fine, but after about 2 days, the contractor stops returning calls, and stops showing up at the work site.

I start talking to the painters and they are Latino immigrants working as day laborers. They're about halfway through the job, but they tell me that the contractor owes them for two previous weeks' work, and that they have been told by other workers that he doesn't pay. One of the painters doesn't return after the 3rd day. The other painter agrees to finish the job, but asks me to try to help him get paid. He said he'd been in the states for 5 years, and sends money home every month to a wife and two sons back in Colombia.

I never see the contractor again. Once I start calling around to places from which he was supposedly buying materials, I find out that no orders have been place, and one of them finally flat out tells me that they stopped doing business with the contractor because he didn't pay.

I end up paying the painter to finish the job--because it was the right thing to do, but also, because it was holding up other work that would've delayed move-in. No time to go hunt down other contractors, get them to give a bid, and get them to schedule a job. He helped us out of a bind, we paid him.

What do immigrants want? The guy I dealt with definitely wasn't looking for a free ride, or to take advantage of any social services. He was here trying to make a buck to support a family in Colombia.

What an immigrant like him might want would be some type of legal protection against a guy like the contractor who could cheat him out of almost a month's wages, just because he knew he could and knew the worker wouldn't have any recourse. It happens all the time.

I guess a person could just argue that if they're here illegally, they deserve what they get, which is probably the same rationale the contractor used.

sixeightmkw · 05-02-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MavKikiNYC

Re: What do immigrants want?

I guess a person could just argue that if they're here illegally, they deserve what they get, which is probably the same rationale the contractor used.

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Then by all means become a legal citizen. Then he won't have to worry about that. But then again, there are plenty of citizens that get taken to the cleaner too. Learn english, get an education, something. Here are some points from the visaus.gov website stating who can become a citizen.

1. Are at least 18 years old and a lawful permanent resident ("green card" holder);
2. Have resided continuously in the United States, having been lawfully admitted for permanent residence, for five years immediately preceding the date you filed your application for naturalization, or
3. Have, after having been removed from conditional permanent resident status, based upon your marriage to a U.S. citizen, having resided in the United States for one year after the date the condition was removed;
4. Have resided continuously in the United States at all times after your application to the time and date of your admission for citizenship;
5. Have, during all periods of time referred to above, been and still are a person of good moral character;
6. Have no outstanding deportation or removal order and no pending deportation or removal proceeding;
7. Have the ability to read, write, speak, and understand simple words and phrases in English;
8. Have knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of U.S. history and government;
9. Are attached to, and can support, the principles of the U.S. Constitution and can swear allegiance to the United States.

how to get a green card to be an immigrant with employment status
How Do I Become an Immigrant Based on Employment?
An immigrant is a foreign national who is authorized to live and work permanently in the United States. You must go through a multi-step process to become an immigrant based on employment.

The USCIS must approve an immigrant petition (application) that was filed for you, usually by an employer.

In most employment categories (See EB-2 and EB-3 eligibility and filing information below), a U.S. employer must complete a labor certification request (ETA 750) for you from the Department of Labor's Employment and Training Administration.

The State Department must give you an immigrant visa number, even if you are already in the United States. Please see How Do I Get an Immigrant Visa Number?.

If you are already in the United States, you must apply to adjust to permanent resident status when a visa number becomes available. Please see How Do I Become a Lawful Permanent Resident while in the United States? If you are outside the United States when an immigrant visa number becomes available, you will be notified to go to the local U.S. consulate to complete the processing for an immigrant visa.

Not very hard. But the only excuses I have heard are it takes toooooo long. Wahh. Deal with it. And I guess the biggest problem is they have to learn english.

Jeremiah · 05-02-2006, 03:37 PM

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sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 10:05 PM

Yeah, I know, it was actually kinda funny. This one lady that sits next to me, about a 50 year old mexican lady, she started cussing and stuff about the whole thing. Kinda funny stuff.

aexchange · 05-01-2006, 10:11 PM

well the trash in my neighborhood didnt get picked up today.

in addition, apparently all construction in my neighborhood also couldnt go on today.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aexchange

well the trash in my neighborhood didnt get picked up today.

in addition, apparently all construction in my neighborhood also couldnt go on today.

We use a lot of day labor and there was none. The construction industry here reported sporadic absences. Also, my elderly neighbor has her yard mowed by a group of Mexicans. They do awesome work but they failed to show up today. She was pissed.

dude1394 · 05-01-2006, 10:24 PM

Our lawn service didn't work today. It was pretty stupid as they'll double up tommorrow to get the same work done.

madape · 05-01-2006, 10:35 PM

a mexican made my sandwitch today at Subway. It was delicious.

sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madape

a mexican made my sandwitch today at Subway. It was delicious.

same here. actually 2 mexicans made my sandwhich at Subway

capitalcity · 05-02-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sixeightmkw

same here. actually 2 mexicans made my sandwhich at Subway

me three.

Damn - subway made a killing today.

sixeightmkw · 05-01-2006, 10:36 PM

Geraldo Rivera, I guess he is good for something.

He intereviewd the mayor of Los Angeles, Mayor Villageros or something like that. He had some interesting points.

It was offensive to him that they did the national anthem thing. he said it should be sung in english, just as any other national anthem should be sung in its original language.
Also that illegal immigrants need to get legalized the legal way and speak english. ha. pretty funny.

Murphy3 · 05-01-2006, 10:39 PM

I was about to say, I got my tacos just fine. But, I suppose they were probably Mexican Americans...and not mexican mexicans.

Drbio · 05-01-2006, 10:45 PM

LA Mayor Villegos sounds intelligent. I wonder if he made a sandwich today?

FishForLunch · 05-02-2006, 12:20 AM

This boycott was not for us common folk, it was a show for our A..hole senators, congressmen and our misguided president.

Murphy3 · 05-02-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FishForLunch

This boycott was not for us common folk, it was a show for our A..hole senators, congressmen and our misguided president.

So you're saying that Bush didn't get his Subway today?

nashtymavsfan13 · 05-02-2006, 01:59 AM

I really didn't see much happen at all.

Ninkobei · 05-02-2006, 04:54 AM

I don't understand this "march". If they didn't want to go into work why not just fake sick like everyone else?

sixeightmkw · 05-02-2006, 07:35 AM

I hear so many different things about what the mexicans want from this whole march and stuff. I hear that the illegal immigrants want the same rights as regular americans. But then I also hear they want reform. Reform for what though? Reform the immirgration laws to make it easier to become a citizen? Then I thought they were marching against Bush and that law to have harsher penalties for illegal immigrants and stuff. I am confused about exactly what they want.

If they want reform to the immigration laws, they I am for that. I hope they get everything organized so we don't have this big mess of millions of illegals running around in our country. But if illegals want the same rights as americans, then that is just ridiculous.

Smiles · 05-02-2006, 02:20 PM

I've heard (on the news) them say they want "respect", but it seems like they are equating respect for humankind with embracing their choice to illegally immigrate. I completely understand going to the ends of the earth to support your children, but to demand citizenship (when so many are legally in line for it) is rather presumptuous. Where did the entitlement come from?

There was a guest on Fox News yesterday morning who said Americans stole the land from the natives, so Mexicans were more entitled to it than the current residents. That was pretty disturbing.

If we had been screwed* by a day of boycotts, wouldn't that make the citizens afraid to embrace more and more of "them"? Wouldn't that tell us that unless we give them what they want (now and in future voting situations), they will just "take it" by banding together? What's the deal with these news shots of guys yelling into the microphone in Spanish while shaking their fist and slapping their bicep? That doesn't make me feel so warm and fuzzy - kinda makes me nervous since I'm so white colored looking.

The Latino guys who work in accounting were here yesterday. I also saw Latinos working at the gym and McDonalds.

Drbio · 05-02-2006, 04:21 PM

Wrong. Illegals can be arrested, held in JAIL until such time as they are deported or a judge orders other action. They broke the law. It's funny...they are entered into the TCIC and NCIC databases and are shown to have a prior arrest and if convicted, a conviction. They are criminals. Piss off if you don't like the way I package my ideas. As a matter of fact, you can piss off if you do.

Jeremiah · 05-02-2006, 04:36 PM

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sixeightmkw · 05-02-2006, 04:44 PM

ok, have to give this one to Doc.

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

Jeremiah · 05-02-2006, 05:37 PM

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