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mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 10:20 PM

if i was dirk i'd ask to be traded.

how can you not at least sign jj or tyson? and give dirk at least a chance at another one.

you found the formula and you throw it away?

deamon · 12-26-2011, 10:21 PM

You don't change champ roster, Cuban doesn't know it.

mavsfan1000 · 12-26-2011, 10:25 PM

This team got old as well. Everything working against them this year.

Kante · 12-26-2011, 10:27 PM

Panic button: Activate!

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 10:31 PM

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Panic button: Activate!

lol, ya, i hope im overreacting, but i fear we are seeing what it is.

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 10:29 PM

ya they got way older with odom and carter.

jj is so young and promising, as was stevenson, and its not like they got mad money.

but i agree, they got a lot older.

mavs777 · 12-26-2011, 10:43 PM

2 GAMES MAKES A SEASON EVERYONE LETS SCREAM AND OVERREACT! CUBAN HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING THEY SHOULD HAND OVER GM/OWNER DUTIES TOO THE GREAT MAV4EVER WHO KNOWS MORE BASKETBALL THAN CUBAN.

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 10:51 PM

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2 GAMES MAKES A SEASON EVERYONE LETS SCREAM AND OVERREACT! CUBAN HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING THEY SHOULD HAND OVER GM/OWNER DUTIES TOO THE GREAT MAV4EVER WHO KNOWS MORE BASKETBALL THAN CUBAN.

finally, someone gets it.

iella · 12-26-2011, 10:43 PM

This thread sucks.

EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2011, 10:59 PM

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This thread sucks.

Qft

sefant77 · 12-26-2011, 10:50 PM

why you have "4ever" in your nick?

mavsfan1000 · 12-26-2011, 10:53 PM

There is always next year. At this point, I'm just interested in watching our bench. Our starters are just too old.

dude1394 · 12-26-2011, 10:54 PM

Lol

irishock · 12-26-2011, 10:57 PM

another Cuban doubter. Cuban is doing a great thing for our franchise, had we re-signed JJ and Tyson, we still might not win the title this year anyways. Cuban and the FO put us in a position where we are still competing this year (or we can tank for the #1 pick, seeing how we're doing right now) AND we a chance at Deron AND Dwight.

Wang Zhi Zhi · 12-26-2011, 11:06 PM

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Jesus fucking christ, another Cuban doubter. Cuban is doing a great thing for our franchise, had we re-signed JJ and Tyson, we still might not win the title this year anyways. Cuban and the FO put us in a position where we are still competing this year (or we can tank for the #1 pick, seeing how we're doing right now) AND we a chance at Deron AND Dwight.

We are competing this year????

Cuban underestimated how destructive his moves would be for this year's team.

irishock · 12-26-2011, 11:35 PM

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We are competing this year????

Cuban underestimated how destructive his moves would be for this year's team.

So what if we don't win the title this year? I'd settle for the chance of dominating the next 5-10 years over a title in 2012 and waiting for 4 more years of terrible contracts to expire.

THE LOVER · 12-26-2011, 10:59 PM

Season is way to young to start panic!

sefant77 · 12-26-2011, 11:07 PM

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 11:09 PM

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lol!!!!!!!!!! thread winner

thats me, and im screaming in a will ferrell voice "WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR COMPOSURE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!"

clutch#41 · 12-26-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mav4ever

if i was dirk i'd ask to be traded.

how can you not at least sign jj or tyson? and give dirk at least a chance at another one.

you found the formula and you throw it away?

so when we have a big 3 of howard, williams, and dirk next year will cuban still suck?

haCORErdMav · 12-27-2011, 01:27 AM

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Whom is the top college players this year? I smell a lottery pick

Andre Drummond? Best big by a fairly safe margin. Draws comparison to Amare Stoudemire. So in my opinion a PF/C

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Originally Posted by clutch#41

so when we have a big 3 of howard, williams, and dirk next year will cuban still suck?

Assuming the above phantasy comes to fruition, and assuming we get Howard and Williams, you have a "potential allstar" to backup Dirk and Howard. Also you have a future replacement for Dirk at the PF position.... Also assuming Drummonds skill set doesn't clash with Howards, See Shaq-Amare.

But as far as i am concerned this year is the ONLY year where having a shot at a top 5 pick would be good considering if you do get Howard and/or Williams next year i cant imagine them wanting to play for a team that is ever a lottery team while they are on it.

All in all though i still say championship or bust. Im sure having the #1 pick is exciting for some teams fans, mabey even euphoric during the Draft.
However as per last years playoffs, watching the whole team play like a group who refused to be denied series after series, and not to mention a whole months worth of Dirk playing out of his mind to a level ive only seen from other greats. It really was absolute bliss watching Dirk and the Mavs march through the playoffs. I would love to have Howard and/or Williams... Even the 1st over all pick would be nice, but every year after this point the chances of seeing Dirk perform to such a level again decreases exponentially.

ibivibiv · 12-27-2011, 01:22 PM

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so when we have a big 3 of howard, williams, and dirk next year will cuban still suck?

He is rolling big dice though, betting this entire season on landing those guys. It's going to hurt watching this year and I hope he can pull it off. Otherwise:

Good thing we have all that cap space, it really helps out on defense.....

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2011, 01:29 PM

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He is rolling big dice though, betting this entire season on landing those guys. It's going to hurt watching this year and I hope he can pull it off. Otherwise:

Good thing we have all that cap space, it really helps out on defense.....

I don't really see it as betting this entire season. To me, that assumes the team is tanking. I don't see that when it comes to looking at the landscape. The west is still relatively wide open. OKC is the team that looks ready to step up, but there's nothing behind them that really stands out and says we're coming to get you. When you take conditioning, getting players used to the system, trust and having the target placed squarely on your chest - why is hard to believe that this is what we're seeing so far?

ibivibiv · 12-27-2011, 04:05 PM

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I don't really see it as betting this entire season. To me, that assumes the team is tanking. I don't see that when it comes to looking at the landscape. The west is still relatively wide open. OKC is the team that looks ready to step up, but there's nothing behind them that really stands out and says we're coming to get you. When you take conditioning, getting players used to the system, trust and having the target placed squarely on your chest - why is hard to believe that this is what we're seeing so far?

Being honest, we'll do well with what we have, but barring injuries we are just a possibility this year along with the rest. We let a full rotation of solid guys go and replaced them with projects players and "used to coulds". We'll have to make up for that AND show up in the playoffs with fresh legs on an old team. So, yeah I think he's betting the success of this season on nabbing some big names later. I don't disagree with that strategy, but it is just going to hurt watching some wonky basketball here for awhile. Anything else said is just blind fandom. We'll probably get in somewhere in the middle for the playoffs and have to really tighten things up to make it to the conf finals, but thinking we'll go all the way with this much rotation in players and coaching is a bit of a pipe dream. Crazier things have happened, but the Mavs have a long road ahead of them.

Kidd Karma · 12-27-2011, 04:12 PM

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Being honest, we'll do well with what we have, but barring injuries we are just a possibility this year along with the rest. We let a full rotation of solid guys go and replaced them with projects players and "used to coulds". We'll have to make up for that AND show up in the playoffs with fresh legs on an old team. So, yeah I think he's betting the success of this season on nabbing some big names later. I don't disagree with that strategy, but it is just going to hurt watching some wonky basketball here for awhile. Anything else said is just blind fandom. We'll probably get in somewhere in the middle for the playoffs and have to really tighten things up to make it to the conf finals, but thinking we'll go all the way with this much rotation in players and coaching is a bit of a pipe dream. Crazier things have happened, but the Mavs have a long road ahead of them.

I don't think it necessarily have to be big names. I can see Cuban trying to maintain as much flexibility as he can while building a group around Dirk. I mean you add Williams or Howard, you're still handcuffing yourself. Cuban is a business man, when he sees a great deal, he'll want to bite...case in point Lamar Odom. Who knows you bring in a guy like OJ Mayo for a half dollar on the dollar, you never know, the dynamic duo...with Dirk. I do see us going balls to the wall for the Big 2 left, but there will always be good players on the market, Cuban's going to try his darndest to keep flexibility going forward. Stack, Damp Chips.....were pulled out of the hat by Cuban, no other owner were able to get that done. It's a pain in the ass to watch our guys blown out night after night, but I trust what the heads are doing.

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ibivibiv

Being honest, we'll do well with what we have, but barring injuries we are just a possibility this year along with the rest. We let a full rotation of solid guys go and replaced them with projects players and "used to coulds". We'll have to make up for that AND show up in the playoffs with fresh legs on an old team. So, yeah I think he's betting the success of this season on nabbing some big names later. I don't disagree with that strategy, but it is just going to hurt watching some wonky basketball here for awhile. Anything else said is just blind fandom. We'll probably get in somewhere in the middle for the playoffs and have to really tighten things up to make it to the conf finals, but thinking we'll go all the way with this much rotation in players and coaching is a bit of a pipe dream. Crazier things have happened, but the Mavs have a long road ahead of them.

I'm dying to know which category Odom fits in. I'm not even sure what the second one is, to be honest with you.

My point still remains that the Mavs had a long road ahead of them last season and they still did ok. They looked TERRIBLE at the end and couldn't beat anyone who actually mattered until the very end. It's not about what's happening now.

dude1394 · 12-27-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ibivibiv

He is rolling big dice though, betting this entire season on landing those guys. It's going to hurt watching this year and I hope he can pull it off. Otherwise:

Good thing we have all that cap space, it really helps out on defense.....

Hes betting more than this season IMO. He will be looking for what tyson was bringing for a long time if he misses on those guys. He risks the dreaded ...being just good enough to not suck.

JeffViggiano · 12-27-2011, 05:36 PM

no way guys,i TRUST in mark.

we have only lose 2games,go mavssssssssssss

mavs777 · 12-27-2011, 05:58 PM

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Hes betting more than this season IMO. He will be looking for what tyson was bringing for a long time if he misses on those guys. He risks the dreaded ...being just good enough to not suck.

You mean what Tyson brought for one season? The injury prone center who was terrible for Charlotte? The one that has really only had a significant impact in 3 years out of 10 in his career? The one that is approaching thirty and relies almost soley on his athletic ability? And yet we should give this guy a 4-5 year contract for 13+ million per year?

dude1394 · 12-27-2011, 06:31 PM

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You mean what Tyson brought for one season? The injury prone center who was terrible for Charlotte? The one that has really only had a significant impact in 3 years out of 10 in his career? The one that is approaching thirty and relies almost soley on his athletic ability? And yet we should give this guy a 4-5 year contract for 13+ million per year?

Yes

Kidd Karma · 12-27-2011, 06:49 PM

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You mean what Tyson brought for one season? The injury prone center who was terrible for Charlotte? The one that has really only had a significant impact in 3 years out of 10 in his career? The one that is approaching thirty and relies almost soley on his athletic ability? And yet we should give this guy a 4-5 year contract for 13+ million per year?

And lock ourselves into just bidding on the Mike Bibbys, for 2-3 seasons to replace Kidd's minutes.

SMC0007 · 12-27-2011, 08:59 PM

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You mean what Tyson brought for one season? The injury prone center who was terrible for Charlotte? The one that has really only had a significant impact in 3 years out of 10 in his career? The one that is approaching thirty and relies almost soley on his athletic ability? And yet we should give this guy a 4-5 year contract for 13+ million per year?

With all due respect to you sir, Chandler is a bamf! Ty relying almost solely on his athletic ability is false. He knows how to play the game and displayed it in championship form last year. The intangibles he brought are under rated too often around here. More and more people will start to realize this as the season goes on, sometimes whats on paper doesn't pan out.

oilfieldtrash · 12-26-2011, 11:20 PM

Whom is the top college players this year? I smell a lottery pick

chumdawg · 12-26-2011, 11:21 PM

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Whom is the top college players this year? I smell a lottery pick

Whom? Whom is?

sefant77 · 12-26-2011, 11:21 PM

Walter Whom

MavsFanTillDeath · 12-26-2011, 11:31 PM

looks a lot like 06/07, the year after we went to the finals for the first time..i think we lost the first 4 games back then (2 of them really bad) but went on to win 67 games. this is not the time to panic, it's way to early to judge this team.

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 11:37 PM

khloe will be hooking up with the crab man before the spring thaw

SeanL · 12-26-2011, 11:43 PM

I have a feeling resigning JJ wouldn't help our defense.

But yes, thank you Cuban for bringing us a championship. As far as I'm concerned he gets a lot of leeway for the next few years.

mav4ever · 12-26-2011, 11:45 PM

i suppose there are a few positives that can be taken from our dismal start this year.

1. crab man is eating well.
2. dirk still looks quite tall.
3. our years of combined experience now with odom and carter could possibly be tops in the league.
4. the lockout is over.

im sure there are more

twelli · 12-26-2011, 11:48 PM

So this is the thread for the Mavs' worst fans, huh?